No love from PFT WK 5 picks

[AnthonyE]

Originally Posted by srrono

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-five-picks-2/

Raiders at Texans

Florio’s take: The Titans managed to win last week without their top receiver, Kenny Britt. The Texans tend to rely a little bit more on Andre Johnson. He has missed 13 games during his career, and the Texans have lost eight of them. With a better-than-advertised Raiders team coming to town and the Texans’ new-look defense having not yet seen a tailback like Darren McFadden, the record with Andre could be moving to 5-9.

Florio’s pick: Raiders 20, Texans 13.

Rosenthal’s take: This will be a different sort of test for the rebuilt Texans defense. Houston has shown they can get after the passer, but handling the smashmouth Raiders is altogether different. Both of these teams are talented, but make too many bone-headed mistakes. Look for Houston to make more mistakes Sunday.

Rosenthal’s pick: Raiders 28, Texans 24.

I hardly see what the Tacks win without Kenny Britt has to do with our offense and whether or not it changes our ability to win.

[Rey]

Originally Posted by Cerberus

That's what Rex Ryan thought also, right before McFadden gashed his vaunted D for 171 yards rushing.

Well, if his pattern holds true he is due for less than 100 yards rushing and a loss.




http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/1...arren-mcfadden

[Cerberus]

Originally Posted by Rey

Well, if his pattern holds true he is due for less than 100 yards rushing and a loss.




http://espn.go.com/nfl/player/_/id/1...arren-mcfadden

Uh, look again, because those games aren't listed in chronological order from 1st to last game, it is reversed. So, he is due a 100+ game and a win.

[Rey]

Originally Posted by Cerberus

Uh, look again, because those games aren't listed in chronological order from 1st to last game, it is reversed. So, he is due a 100+ game and a win.

You're right...

I thought the smiley with the truck gave away the fact that I was joking though...

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by HOU-TEX

What makes you say this? We haven't really stopped the run well against teams wanting to pass. Suddenly we're going to stop it against a team that wants to run and has a much better RB?

I expect McFadden to get his yards. If we're going to win, Foster needs to get his as well.

We haven't faced a team like the Raiders yet. We haven't faced a runner like RunDMC yet.

But.... I love our new look D. We are stout on the front seven & I think Wade is going to add a few things. I don't think Jason Campbell can beat our secondary, so the front 7 will sell out against the run & shut it down.

Can the Raiders stop Arian? I don't think so. If Ward is healthy & ready to go... I'm seeing a 300 yard rushing day & Oakland will never get the ball.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by The Pencil Neck

Well, neither of them would be at the top of the Texans Talk pick'em leagues I'm in.

Florio is 41-23 through 4 weeks (Rosenthal is 43-21).

I've had a rotten year this year and I'm 40-24. TheDudeAbides, Dutchrudder, and Texaninlild are all 46-18.

They both had us beating the Steelers, getting crushed by the Saints, getting beat by the Dolphins, and beating the Colts.

So, what do they say about our chances vs the Raiders?

[The Pencil Neck]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

So, what do they say about our chances vs the Raiders?

Um.

See the first post in the thread.

[Cerberus]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

... I'm seeing a 300 yard rushing day & Oakland will never get the ball.

Yeah, maybe combined rushing yards of 300 for Foster and McFadden, certainly not Foster and Ward.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Rey

McFadden has gone crazy in two of his games. The other two he didn't reach 100 yards. One of his games he averaged 3.2 ypc.

No ones running game has beat us this year and I don't think that will change against the Raiders. We haven't stopped the run well overall and we haven't needed to, but we have stopped it enough.

Make plays when teams try to pass it and we will more than likely win the game. This is NFL 2011, teams that can pass the ball win games. Teams that can't don't.....Generally speaking...

Is this McFadden character a new guy? did they just sign him, draft him or is he the same guy who didn't do squat against us?

He didn't win the game for them in 2010, 2009, or 2008. He'll get some yards, but he won't win the game for Oakland & they have nothing else.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Cerberus

Yeah, maybe combined rushing yards of 300 for Foster and McFadden, certainly not Foster and Ward.

You sure about that? Foster & Ward combined for 211 yards just a year ago & Foster sat out the 1st Qtr.

Even Slaton averaged 7.44 yards against you last year.

[DX-TEX]

Did no one remind them that the Texans beat the Raiders LAST YEAR with Dre out?

Arian got 140 nyds rushhing in 1/2 a game.

[Pantherstang84]

Come on folks it is Florio and Rosemthal talking. Is further explanation really needed?

[ThaJokaa]

Hope to see Foster do major work

[DocBar]

I think our D will be stout enough to handle the Raiders and our offense, with or without AJ, is more than enough to bury them if we can get TD's instead of FG's. Playing at Reliant, I see this going the Texans way. I'm pretty sure Phillips has seen the error of his ways when he's taken his foot off the throttle and gone to prevent D when we have a lead. All we have to do is dance with what brung us to 3-1 on the D side of the ball. Make the proper in-game corrections if DMC starts tearing it up, but keep up the aggressive nature that has served us well through 13 out of 16 quarters so far.

[badboy]

Originally Posted by srrono

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-five-picks-2/

Raiders at Texans

Florio’s take: The Titans managed to win last week without their top receiver, Kenny Britt. The Texans tend to rely a little bit more on Andre Johnson. He has missed 13 games during his career, and the Texans have lost eight of them. With a better-than-advertised Raiders team coming to town and the Texans’ new-look defense having not yet seen a tailback like Darren McFadden, the record with Andre could be moving to 5-9.

Florio’s pick: Raiders 20, Texans 13.

Rosenthal’s take: This will be a different sort of test for the rebuilt Texans defense. Houston has shown they can get after the passer, but handling the smashmouth Raiders is altogether different. Both of these teams are talented, but make too many bone-headed mistakes. Look for Houston to make more mistakes Sunday.

Rosenthal’s pick: Raiders 28, Texans 24.

all good points except the final score is incorrect.

[MEGA SWATT]

Originally Posted by Arky

All the ESPN guys like the Texans:

http://espn.go.com/nfl/picks

[Rey]

If the texans lose to the steelers I will have to re evaluate my opinion of where this team is right now.

Not that the raiders suck, but we should win this game.

I don't think the score will be close either. Jmo.

[The Pencil Neck]

Originally Posted by Rey

If the texans lose to the steelers I will have to re evaluate my opinion of where this team is right now.

Not that the raiders suck, but we should win this game.

I don't think the score will be close either. Jmo.

Yeah, if they find a way to go back and lose a game they already won, I'll have to re-evaluate my opinion of them, too. That's epically bad.

[welsh texan]

Originally Posted by Super Mario

The Raiders keeping us to 13 points? I dont see it.

They are giving up 409.8 yards per game so far. Good enough for 28th.

113 points given up - good enough for 31st.

Given the Texans penalty issues moving the ball 409 yards on O would put us in the red zone 4 times, your right, its 12 points we'd get in that situation I joke, I joke.

I can see why a lot of people in the media see us on the same sort of level as the Raiders. In truth, I think we're a bit stronger than them, they've improved a lot this year but I still don't see a way past us.

We have a secondary who seem to capitalise on QB mistakes, even if they still give up a few plays too many a game, a pass rush who are a constant threat throughout, even if they get handled they need to be accounted for.

On O we'll move the ball without too many dramas, we have Jacoby to stretch it deep and lots of well designed routes to confuse, with good route runners to execute them.

I'd like to see Tate and Arian in the backfield with Arian motioned out into a reciever now and again, think that would give the D fits and matchup problems. Maybe even just run Tate after doing that to put them back on their heels.

[Cerberus]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

You sure about that? Foster & Ward combined for 211 yards just a year ago & Foster sat out the 1st Qtr.

Even Slaton averaged 7.44 yards against you last year.

Things have changed since last year, starting with the HC and DC. Granted, Marshall was a better DC than the Bresnahan, but things have changed in Oakland since last season. And don't be deceived by the statistics, because long runs against the Raider D tend to inflate those numbers, and the long runs are in part due to man-to-man coverage. When they try and stop the run, like against Shonn Green, they can be successful.