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Old 10-04-2011   #141
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Larger tendons like the Achilles have poorer blood supply than smaller tendons........but all tendons and ligaments have relatively very poor blood supply and repairative properties compared to muscle
That is entirely counter-intuitive.
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Well, now is the time to really find out what Jacoby Jones is all about. I hope he steps up to the potential that many claim he's got in him.

Fortunately, this offense has quite a few solid weapons, so I agree with the above, these games are winnable. Our defense will need to continue to step up and make some plays, maybe even score some points.

This is what great TEAMS are made of in the end.
I think Jacoby gets targeted by fewer passes than: Owen Daniels, Arian Foster, James Casey, Joel Dressen, and (if he plays - Ben Tate). Well, at least he will catch fewer.
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It's time for Owen Daniels, James Casey and Arian Foster to step up
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Its now on ESPN


http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/70...cording-report

Houston Texans wide receiver Andre Johnson is expected to miss three weeks after undergoing a minor medical procedure Tuesday, according to a report by Fox 26 Sports in Houston.

The report, which cited league sources, said Johnson had the procedure to "eliminate scar tissue to speed up the healing process related to his right hamstring."

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Johnson went down without getting touched in the second quarter against Pittsburgh on Sunday, and did not return.

"You don't replace Andre," coach Gary Kubiak said Monday. "What you do is you've got to pick it up across the board, at other spots."

That includes Jacoby Jones, who Kubiak is hoping can fill in for Johnson as ably as Ben Tate did for Arian Foster this season.

Fox reached out to Johnson's agent, Kennard McGuire, who declined comment on the medical procedure.

"Andre is doing fine and he looks forward to being with his teammates soon," McGuire told Fox.
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I thought three weeks in the other AJ thread. I just dont think its gonna be just three weeks though. Then again, AJ is the Bionic Man, so he might just make it back in 3.
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So I guess they didn't cut him right? Some other procedure? 3 weeks is fast for surgery.
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So I guess they didn't cut him right? Some other procedure? 3 weeks is fast for surgery.
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Larger tendons like the Achilles have poorer blood supply than smaller tendons........but all tendons and ligaments have relatively very poor blood supply and repairative properties compared to muscle
I might need someone to spell this out for me. So we know he had a procedure on his hamstring. But we do not know if its a muscle or tendon tear. CND is leaning toward a tendon tear which could mean longer than 2 or 3 weeks?
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He should travel across seas and get stem cell treatment
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Ben Tate and Ward

I say the team just transforms into a grind it out defensive team. Splitting carries between Tate and Foster and Ward that's a great run game right there and enough ball control offense to win games and force teams to pass.

Really everyone needs to step up, defense etc etc but really on offense the run game needs to be unstoppable to open up the pass game.

I think we can survive, just that we are likely to lose against Baltimore but we could still have lost to them with AJ.
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I might need someone to spell this out for me. So we know he had a procedure on his hamstring. But we do not know if its a muscle or tendon tear. CND is leaning toward a tendon tear which could mean longer than 2 or 3 weeks?
You are correct.

Think back to Rashad Butler when he was listed in week 3 injury report as "elbow." During this time he was participating in "limited practice." Then one day, he is classified as "out" with a triceps rupture. How does an elbow problem translate / lead to a triceps rupture? Because, all along, he had a triceps TENDON problem. The triceps tendon attaches to the elbow and an tendon tear essentially led to a total rupture near or at the boney attachment.

Similarly, the distal hamstring tendon attaches to the lower leg bone in the back of the knee. AJ grabbed the back of his knee, not the belly of his hamstring muscle which is the classic reaction to a muscle tear. A muscle tear classically results in excrutiatingly painful spasm of the torn muscle. Walking is noticeably affected, many times not possible. A distal tendon tear may not be very painful after immediate tear unless stressed and may result in relatively normal gait. All of this goes into my analysis from the perspective of an "outsider" looking in.
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You are correct.

Think back to Rashad Butler when he was listed in week 3 injury report as "elbow." During this time he was participating in "limited practice." Then one day, he is classified as "out" with a triceps rupture. How does an elbow problem translate / lead to a triceps rupture? Because, all along, he had a triceps TENDON problem. The triceps tendon attaches to the elbow and an tendon tear essentially led to a total rupture near or at the boney attachment.

Similarly, the distal hamstring tendon attaches to the lower leg bone in the back of the knee. AJ grabbed the back of his knee, not the belly of his hamstring muscle which is the classic reaction to a muscle tear. A muscle tear classically results in excrutiatingly painful spasm of the torn muscle. Walking is noticeably affected, sometimes not possible. A distal tendon tear may not be very painful after immediate tear unless stressed and may result in relatively normal gait. All of this goes into my analysis from the perspective of an "outsider" looking in.
So do you think the team is lying to use then ? Cause he had MRIs, and he has surgery to remove scar tissue so it heals faster ! Does this mean the MRI and doctors are all wrong our is the team lying to us ?
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Why is my gut telling me we're f--ked?
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So do you think the team is lying to use then ? Cause he had MRIs, and he has surgery to remove scar tissue so it heals faster ! Does this mean the MRI and doctors are all wrong our is the team lying to us ?
Plus he said himself he feels fine
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So do you think the team is lying to use then ? Cause he had MRIs, and he has surgery to remove scar tissue so it heals faster ! Does this mean the MRI and doctors are all wrong our is the team lying to us ?
What I'm saying without having inside info on this is that there are so many things in this story that don't make too much sense.
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All of this medical talk makes my head hurt. Very informative, but way over my head. Thanks for all of the great insight though CND! Hope Andre has as quick a recovery as possible. Now let's go grab a vet who can come make some plays for us.
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Looks like we're gonna need to start relying on our D a lot more. I am encouraged after the 4th quater on Sunday, and it's not like we're gonna face any more Drew Breeses the rest of the year.
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Plus he said himself he feels fine
He may say he feels fine, but obviously something is "unfine" enough to admittedly anticipate at least 3 weeks out after several MRI's, multiple opinions and a "medical procedure."
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What I'm saying without having inside info on this is that there are so many things in this story that don't make too much sense.
I barely have non-medical insight and I'm boggled.
Wouldn't a surgery to prevent scar tissue cause scar tissue since scar tissue is caused by injury/surgery? From my many rehab courses, we worked, post surgically, to keep flexability and range of motion in affected joints. I did a lot of pre-surgery exercises to promote flexability and range of motion, but never even heard of preventive surgery to lessen the probability of scar tissue. Granted, that's only through 6 orthopedic procedures in the last 10 years. I need a few more, so maybe it's changed.
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