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Old 10-02-2011   #1
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I know that we won, and I know that there were some legitimate penalties out there.

But by and large the Texans were being called for some penalties where:
1. No number was given by the refs
2. The infraction was well away from the play and did not impact it
3. The Steelers were getting away with identical maneuvers


For example:
Myers hands to the face penalty - Legitimate

Defensive holding that negated the sack fumble - No player charged with the infraction.

Manning block in the back - Absolutely no impact on the play

Dreesen's holding - Touching the jersey of a defensive player is now a hold? Why weren't the Steelers charged with similar

JJ Watts roughing the passer - The guy was pushed down into Roesthlisberger. Hitting Big Ben at ANY time during a live play should not be a penalty. That guy escapes more near sacks than anyone not named Vick



In short, we were cost 14 points and a short field by the crappy officiating. I would be pretty pissed if I felt we were playing sloppy (how many false starts did we get for example??) but these ticky tack "no number called" fouls where theres no chance to even see the infraction really bothered me
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I know that we won, and I know that there were some legitimate penalties out there.

But by and large the Texans were being called for some penalties where:
1. No number was given by the refs
2. The infraction was well away from the play and did not impact it
3. The Steelers were getting away with identical maneuvers


For example:
Myers hands to the face penalty - Legitimate

Defensive holding that negated the sack fumble - No player charged with the infraction.

Manning block in the back - Absolutely no impact on the play

Dreesen's holding - Wrapping up a defense player is a hold? Why weren't the Steelers charged with similar

JJ Watts roughing the passer - The guy was pushed down into Roesthlisberger. Hitting Big Ben at ANY time during a live play should not be a penalty. That guy escapes more near sacks than anyone not named Vick



In short, we were cost 14 points and a short field by the crappy officiating. I would be pretty pissed if I felt we were playing sloppy (how many false starts did we get for example??) but these ticky tack "no number called" fouls where theres no chance to even see the infraction really bothered me
Looking at the way Kubiak was giving the refs and earfull at halftime I suspect that we'll compile a DVD of suspect calls and send it in to the league office.

...not that it ever does any good.
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I know that we won, and I know that there were some legitimate penalties out there.

But by and large the Texans were being called for some penalties where:
1. No number was given by the refs
2. The infraction was well away from the play and did not impact it
3. The Steelers were getting away with identical maneuvers


For example:
Myers hands to the face penalty - Legitimate

Defensive holding that negated the sack fumble - No player charged with the infraction.

Manning block in the back - Absolutely no impact on the play

Dreesen's holding - Touching the jersey of a defensive player is now a hold? Why weren't the Steelers charged with similar

JJ Watts roughing the passer - The guy was pushed down into Roesthlisberger. Hitting Big Ben at ANY time during a live play should not be a penalty. That guy escapes more near sacks than anyone not named Vick



In short, we were cost 14 points and a short field by the crappy officiating. I would be pretty pissed if I felt we were playing sloppy (how many false starts did we get for example??) but these ticky tack "no number called" fouls where theres no chance to even see the infraction really bothered me
The JJ Watts one was total BS. He didn't even go for the knees. It was a momentum thing. Nothing like the Jared Allen play a few years ago.

Score should have been 24-10 at least. F'ing refs in this game!
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The JJ call at the end really made me mad. I hope ESPN rips that call tonight on sportscenter. We should have won 31-10 but all the penalties kept calling us back. Its a good sign though that we were still able to win even with all of those bull**** penalties being called
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JJ Watts roughing the passer - The guy was pushed down into Roesthlisberger. Hitting Big Ben at ANY time during a live play should not be a penalty. That guy escapes more near sacks than anyone not named Vick
Agree that there were some absolute BS calls today and it seemed like the refs tried their best to give the game to the Steelers, but Watt ended up hitting Roethlisberger low after the ball was released, that almost always gets called. If he'd gotten pushed into his hip, or his torso that probably wouldn't have gotten called IMO.
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All I kept thinking was "Why does the NFL insist on Mike Renfroing us when we play this team?"
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I'm willing to give the refs with block on the back on the return. It wouldn't have mattered, but they probably shouldn't take into account it was a punter instead of a CB or WR who could have caught Joseph behind.

Manning should have showed more awareness in who he was blocking.

But Watts? Straight up, 100% pure bullshit.

And yeah, I'm suspicious of the holding penalty on the strip sack, but theynever showed another angle, so maybe somewhere there can speak to it...
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Watt got tripped on that QB roughing call, and Foster got tripped. However we got real lucky with that OD catch that hit the turf!!!!!!
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I don't care what anybody says, the Squeelers always play 12 on 11, the calls they get are total bs.
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I agree with all of that, except for the block in the back. Good call, dumb ass play by Manning. He was lucky he was the one that made the block in the first place.

Refs are in no business in making 'judgement calls' and say that Sepulveda wouldn't have been able to make a play. How do they know? Will they need to get JoJo and Sepulveda have a foot race to decide whether he actually could've made a different or not?
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i blame tom brady for the jj watt call.
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Watt got tripped on that QB roughing call, and Foster got tripped. However we got real lucky with that OD catch that hit the turf!!!!!!
That OD catch was legit.
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I don't care what anybody says, the Squeelers always play 12 on 11, the calls they get are total bs.
Yep. Just ask the Seahawks.
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and the old Oilers and the Cardinals and the, oh hell, you get the point...f em
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JJ Watts roughing the passer - The guy was pushed down into Roesthlisberger. Hitting Big Ben at ANY time during a live play should not be a penalty. That guy escapes more near sacks than anyone not named Vick


Watt also had the o-lineman's hands in his grill before he went down to the ground. Something Myers got called for earlier in the game.
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They replayed most of the penalties. I thought they were all pretty legit. Would the Steelers have all those same calls go against them in Pittsburg.... I doubt it. It's bs, but it's the way it is. Today we were good enough to overcome it.
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The refs were crap. The Watt call especilly.

I know that Dierdorf loves him some big Ben too, he was all up on his sack. After the incomplete third down, he called him marvelous or some shit.
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When Allen got the game winner I didn't even celebrate. I sat and looked for the flag, I guess they gave up...
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When Allen got the game winner I didn't even celebrate. I sat and looked for the flag, I guess they gave up...
I did the same thing, lol.
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And same...

Must have been a miscommunication by the officiating staff about whose turn it was to throw a flag.
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