The Texans Current and Ongoing Divisional, Conference, and Wild card situation

[Air Canada]

I did something similiar to this a couple years back called "The Wild Card Situation" http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65970... when we almost made the playoffs in 09'... This is a lil different for this season that I'll add to each week... So just listing the basics so far Feel free to chime in


AFC South


Texans: 2-1... 1-0 in division... 2-0 in conference... 0-1 vs. NFC. *One of 2 undefeated teams in the conference

W- Colts and Dolphins
L- Saints

Titans: 2-1... 0-1 in division... 2-1 in conference... 0-0 vs. NFC

W- Ravens and Broncos
L- Jaguars

Jaguars: 1-2... 1-0 in division... 0-1 in conference... 0-1 vs. NFC

W- Titans
L- Jets and Panthers

Colts: 0-3... 0-1 in division... 0-2 in conference... 0-0 vs. NFC

W- Goose egg
L- Texans, Browns, Steelers....


AFC North


Ravens: 2-1... 1-0 in division... 1-1 in conference... 1-0 vs. NFC

W- Steelers and Rams
L- Titans

Steelers: 2-1... 0-1 in division... 1-1 in conference... 1-0 vs. NFC

W- Seahawks and Colts
L- Ravens

Browns: 2-1... 0-1 in division... 2-1 in conference... 0-0 vs. NFC

W- Colts and Dolphins
L- Bengals

Bengals: 1-2... 1-1 in division... 1-1 in conference... 0-1 vs. NFC

W- Browns
L- Broncos and Niners


AFC East


Bills: 3-0... 1-0 in division... 3-0 in conference... 0-0 vs. NFC *Only undefeated team in the AFC

W- Pats, Raiders, and Chiefs
L-

Pats: 2-1... 1-1 in division... 2-1 in conference... 0-0 vs. NFC

W- Dolphins and Chargers
L- Bills

Jets: 2-1... 0-0 in division... 1-1 in conference... 1-0 vs. NFC

W- Cowboys and Jaguars
L- Raiders

Dolphins: 0-3... 0-1 in division... 0-3 in conference... 0-0 vs. NFC

W- NADA
L- Patriots, Texans, Browns...

AFC West


Raiders: 2-1... 1-0 in division... 2-1 in conference... 0-0 vs. NFC

W- Jets and Broncos
L- Bills

Chargers: 2-1... 1-0 in division... 1-1 in conference... 1-0 vs. NFC

W: Vikings and Chiefs
L: Patriots

Broncos: 1-2... 0-1 in division... 1-2 in conference... 0-0 vs. NFC

W- Bengals
L- Titans and Raiders

Chiefs: 0-3... 0-1 in division... 0-2 in conference... 0-1 vs. NFC

W-
L- Bills, Lions, Chargers...

[Ryan]

I find it funny how everyone has said the Texans haven't beaten anyone significant yet but the only team in the AFC who is 2-1 or better that has beaten a true significant team is the Bills, and arguably the Titans.

[Air Canada]

Originally Posted by Ryan

I find it funny how everyone has said the Texans haven't beaten anyone significant yet but the only team in the AFC who is 2-1 or better that has beaten a true significant team is the Bills, and arguably the Titans.

Haha... Yes, that is true, but that's just the way it is with some fans.. when looking at their team.


Current Division Leaders:

Bills: 3-0
Ravens: 2-1
Texans: 2-1
Raiders: 2-1

Upcoming games: Who to Cheer For

Bills @ Bengals- Take out the undefeated team in the conference and leave the Texans as the "sole undefeated team in conference"

Titans @ Browns- It's the Tit Tacks... Go Browns!

Saints @ Jaguars- OBVIOUS

Patriots @ Raiders- We root for the Raiders to improve our chances for home field advantage and SOS... Or you just hate the Pats and root for Oakland. Or we root for the Pats cuz the Raiders are on our schedule and may actually be for real this year(taking a wait and see)

Dolphins @ Chargers- Improve our SOS and hurt a possible contender and unlikely threat for HF.

Jets @ Ravens- The Ravens seem more likely to contend for their division title and are on our schedule, but I do hate the Jets.

Colts @ Bucs- Division opponent... Doesn't matter, but

[Scooter]

thanks for doing this again, one of my all time favorite threads. i especially enjoyed your "who to root for" section last time and still do. it's a very helpful cliff notes version of the entire league and what's going on that directly (or indirectly) affects the texans for us that have trouble keeping track.

[Ndevine7]

Originally Posted by Ryan

I find it funny how everyone has said the Texans haven't beaten anyone significant yet but the only team in the AFC who is 2-1 or better that has beaten a true significant team is the Bills, and arguably the Titans.

I dont understand how you can say the Bills are the only team to beat someone significant. The Jets are 2-1 and beat the Cowboys who are 2-1. Patriots are 2-1 and beat the Chargers who are 2-1. Oakland is 2-1 and beat the Jets who are 2-1.

[TexansFanatic]

Originally Posted by Ndevine7

I dont understand how you can say the Bills are the only team to beat someone significant. The Jets are 2-1 and beat the Cowboys who are 2-1. Patriots are 2-1 and beat the Chargers who are 2-1. Oakland is 2-1 and beat the Jets who are 2-1.

Right.

And the Ravens beat the crap out of the Steelers. Are we sure we're ready to say the defending AFC champions aren't a significant team? Perhaps we should wait to see if the Texans can beat them before we do that.

[Air Canada]

Originally Posted by Ndevine7

I dont understand how you can say the Bills are the only team to beat someone significant. The Jets are 2-1 and beat the Cowboys who are 2-1. Patriots are 2-1 and beat the Chargers who are 2-1. Oakland is 2-1 and beat the Jets who are 2-1.

Originally Posted by TexansFanatic

Right.

And the Ravens beat the crap out of the Steelers. Are we sure we're ready to say the defending AFC champions aren't a significant team? Perhaps we should wait to see if the Texans can beat them before we do that.

All true as well, but I think in making his point, he was factoring the performances of each team or how they've looked.... If you watched the games... Jets are 2-1... had a bad loss to the Raiders and were lucky to make it outta the Cowboy game with a win.. They choked and Romo epicly failed at the goal line and with the pick... so that wasn't very impressive and it's not apparent the Cowboys are really any good yet.

Chargers beat the 0-3 Chiefs barely hanging on and the 0-3 Vikings at home who give up every lead also barely...

The Ravens killed the Steelers, but looked bad against the Tits and didn't play very well in the loss, then they beat up on the 0-3 Rams. The Steelers got smashed by Balt and returned home to massacre the gift from Seattle, then just barely escaped from Indy with a win(a fumble or overthrown ball from losing that game).

I would probably say the Bills, Pats, Texans, and Raiders have looked the most impressive thus far though... And the Bills had the most significant wins being over 2 of those teams... So just going by "the looks" so far this season.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Air Canada

All true as well, but I think in making his point, he was factoring the performances of each team or how they've looked.... If you watched the games... Jets are 2-1... had a bad loss to the Raiders and were lucky to make it outta the Cowboy game with a win.. They choked and Romo epicly failed at the goal line and with the pick... so that wasn't very impressive and it's not apparent the Cowboys are really any good yet.

Impressive or not, that's the way more than half their games go.


After a while, you gotta stop calling it luck.

[Ryan]

Originally Posted by Ndevine7

I dont understand how you can say the Bills are the only team to beat someone significant. The Jets are 2-1 and beat the Cowboys who are 2-1. Patriots are 2-1 and beat the Chargers who are 2-1. Oakland is 2-1 and beat the Jets who are 2-1.

The Cowboys have beaten the Niners barely and played one of the sloppiest games i've ever seen against the Redskins, Chargers have only beaten winless teams just like we have, and i'm not sure if that counts for the Pats as a significant win since they never lose at home to begin with.

Oakland i missed.

[Speedy]

Originally Posted by Air Canada

Patriots @ Raiders- We root for the Raiders to improve our chances for home field advantage and SOS... Or you just hate the Pats and root for Oakland. Or we root for the Pats cuz the Raiders are on our schedule and may actually be for real this year(taking a wait and see)

I usually like for the team the Texans are about to play to have a good game the week before they play the Texans. That way they don't have the extra incentive to try and correct things against the Texans.

Like last week....if the Steelers had lost to the Colts and come in here 1-2, they'd be fighting like hell to avoid going 1-3. Simply just an I feel better about it deal for me, I guess.

That doesn't matter for division teams though. I want them losing every week.

[Air Canada]

Originally Posted by Speedy

I usually like for the team the Texans are about to play to have a good game the week before they play the Texans. That way they don't have the extra incentive to try and correct things against the Texans.

Like last week....if the Steelers had lost to the Colts and come in here 1-2, they'd be fighting like hell to avoid going 1-3. Simply just an I feel better about it deal for me, I guess.

That doesn't matter for division teams though. I want them losing every week.

So then you do also want the Raiders to win I take it....

[Air Canada]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

Impressive or not, that's the way more than half their games go.


After a while, you gotta stop calling it luck.

Maybe I should rephrase... they were lucky to play the Cowboys who lose more than half their games like that...

[Ndevine7]

Originally Posted by Ryan

The Cowboys have beaten the Niners barely and played one of the sloppiest games i've ever seen against the Redskins, Chargers have only beaten winless teams just like we have, and i'm not sure if that counts for the Pats as a significant win since they never lose at home to begin with.

Oakland i missed.

San Diego lost a shootout with Patriots. Cowboys could easily be 3-0 if Romo had Revis not be the best shutdown corner in the league. Your forgot to mention the Jets and in case you were wondering, they lost to a real Oakland team that we should not overlook. They have a great running back and a really solid change of pace back. Could easily be 3-0 but the Bills might be for real. I am not trying to start a fight but I just do not think that the Texans should be ranked that high. I believe the Texans will win more then the next guy but they need to prove they are a different team then they used to be

[Air Canada]

Originally Posted by Ndevine7

San Diego lost a shootout with Patriots. Cowboys could easily be 3-0 if Romo had Revis not be the best shutdown corner in the league. Your forgot to mention the Jets and in case you were wondering, they lost to a real Oakland team that we should not overlook. They have a great running back and a really solid change of pace back. Could easily be 3-0 but the Bills might be for real. I am not trying to start a fight but I just do not think that the Texans should be ranked that high. I believe the Texans will win more then the next guy but they need to prove they are a different team then they used to be

The Texans lost a shootout to the Saints... The Raiders lost a shootout to the Bills... The Saints lost a shootout to the Packers... The Chargers DID NOT lose a shootout, they just got handled.

The Cowboys could easily be 3-0 if they didn't allow an easy punt block TD or if Romo didn't fumble at the one or if Romo didn't throw directly into the hands of Revis on a man completely covered.... See they do these kind of things and the Jets were fortunate for it, but they also got owned by the Raiders.

In comparison to the other teams in the division and conference and how they have performed THIS SEASON thus far.. The Texans do belong up there IMO.

Only the Bills and Texans haven't lost in the AFC yet also at this point.

[ObsiWan]

Originally Posted by Air Canada

I did something similiar to this a couple years back called "The Wild Card Situation" http://www.texanstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=65970... when we almost made the playoffs in 09'... This is a lil different for this season that I'll add to each week... So just listing the basics so far Feel free to chime in


AFC South
Texans: 2-1... 1-0 in division... 2-0 in conference... 0-1 vs. NFC. *One of 2 undefeated teams in the conference
W- Colts and Dolphins
L- Saints

Titans: 2-1... 0-1 in division... 2-1 in conference... 0-0 vs. NFC
W- Ravens and Broncos
L- Jaguars

Jaguars: 1-2... 1-0 in division... 0-1 in conference... 0-1 vs. NFC
W- Titans
L- Jets and Panthers

Colts: 0-3... 0-1 in division... 0-2 in conference... 0-0 vs. NFC
W- Goose egg
L- Texans, Browns, Steelers....


AFC North
Ravens: 2-1... 1-0 in division... 1-1 in conference... 1-0 vs. NFC
W- Steelers and Rams
L- Titans

Steelers: 2-1... 0-1 in division... 1-1 in conference... 1-0 vs. NFC
W- Seahawks and Colts
L- Ravens

Browns: 2-1... 0-1 in division... 2-1 in conference... 0-0 vs. NFC
W- Colts and Dolphins
L- Bengals

Bengals: 1-2... 1-1 in division... 1-1 in conference... 0-1 vs. NFC
W- Browns
L- Broncos and Niners

AFC East
Bills: 3-0... 1-0 in division... 3-0 in conference... 0-0 vs. NFC *Only undefeated team in the AFC
W- Pats, Raiders, and Chiefs
L-

Pats: 2-1... 1-1 in division... 2-1 in conference... 0-0 vs. NFC
W- Dolphins and Chargers
L- Bills

Jets: 2-1... 0-0 in division... 1-1 in conference... 1-0 vs. NFC
W- Cowboys and Jaguars
L- Raiders

Dolphins: 0-3... 0-1 in division... 0-3 in conference... 0-0 vs. NFC
W- NADA
L- Patriots, Texans, Browns...

AFC West
Raiders: 2-1... 1-0 in division... 2-1 in conference... 0-0 vs. NFC
W- Jets and Broncos
L- Bills

Chargers: 2-1... 1-0 in division... 1-1 in conference... 1-0 vs. NFC
W: Vikings and Chiefs
L: Patriots

Broncos: 1-2... 0-1 in division... 1-2 in conference... 0-0 vs. NFC
W- Bengals
L- Titans and Raiders

Chiefs: 0-3... 0-1 in division... 0-2 in conference... 0-1 vs. NFC
W-
L- Bills, Lions, Chargers...

Nice breakdown. It will be interesting (and hopefully fun for us) to see how things continue to unfold.

rep for your work.

[HJam72]

This week the Browns will be my 2nd favorite team.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Speedy

Like last week....if the Steelers had lost to the Colts and come in here 1-2, they'd be fighting like hell to avoid going 1-3. Simply just an I feel better about it deal for me, I guess.

I understand what you mean. I think the same way.

But, let me ask you this. If the Steelers did come in here @ 1-2 instead of 2-1 would that be any reflection of the quality of the oponent we are about to face?

In other words, we always say W-L is the only thing that matters. But this early in the season, does it mean anything yet? We won't know who's who (IMO) for another month.

[Speedy]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

I understand what you mean. I think the same way.

But, let me ask you this. If the Steelers did come in here @ 1-2 instead of 2-1 would that be any reflection of the quality of the oponent we are about to face?

In other words, we always say W-L is the only thing that matters. But this early in the season, does it mean anything yet? We won't know who's who (IMO) for another month.

Just because the Saints beat the Bears and it made ME feel better that we wouldn't be facing an 0-2 Saints teams desperate to avoid 0-3, doesn't mean the Texans will fare any better than the Saints being 1-1 when they played them.

Before that game, because the Saints had won, I felt better about the Texans having a chance to win, and they very well could have. Had the Saints lost to the Bears and been 0-2, the game still turns out the same way, but I wouldn't have had too much hope beforehand that the Texans would prevail because I would have felt like the Saints would be in desperation mode to avoid going 0-3.

If we played the 0-3 Chiefs this week, I'm not as worried about the Chiefs being desperate to get a win. If you're a bad football team, you're a bad football team, though any team can win on any given Sunday. You've still got to play the games.

Personally, I think that if the Raiders were to beat the Pats, that would be a pretty big high for them, which tends to lead to a let down the next week (see Ravens/Titans). I don't even have a problem with the Raiders losing as long as they make a game of it. If the Pats blow them out, they'll be coming here pissed, embarrassed, and with something to prove. Maybe all of that is bunk, maybe there is a little something to it. I don't know. That's just how I feel about it beforehand.

[Rey]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

Impressive or not, that's the way more than half their games go.


After a while, you gotta stop calling it luck.

I don't think it's Luck as much as "that style of play will eventually catch up with them", ans so far, every year it has. They are collectively thinking SuperBowl over there...

If that is the measuring stick of pass or fail, then they have been failures in their own eyes. And I think that for the most part they would confirm that.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Rey

If that is the measuring stick of pass or fail, then they have been failures in their own eyes. And I think that for the most part they would confirm that.

Wouldn't it be nice to experience that kind of failure?