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Old 10-27-2011   #41
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Default Re: Brandon Harris where are you?

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KJ looks lost at times out there. Safeties don't have to have corner speed, but they do have to have good instincts and vision. The "mental lagging" on his part that you mentioned shows me he doesn't exactly have that. That would be my guess as to why he isn't given a shot. When asked on Monday about Allen or Jackson at safety, Kubiak said Allen's name came up. No mention of KJ at all in that regards. That tells me something right there.
That tells me that Wade thinks Kj is developing fine as a CB & they are trying to find ways to keep Allen on the field. They obviously like both players.
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Just wondering since we traded up for him.

It seemed everyone in April were penciling him in as the #2 CB.
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He's on the team. He tweeted a while back that he was practicing as if he was going to start because he wants to be ready when called.

Jason Allen is playing well and Jackson is having the season he was supposed to have as a rookie so I'm sure he's getting bumped down a bit.
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All of the aforementioned reasons, as well as the coaching staff realizing that sticking rookies in the secondary can really screw you over.
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All of the aforementioned reasons, as well as the coaching staff realizing that sticking rookies in the secondary can really screw you over.
Exactly, I don't think they want to throw him out there. Besides, we don't really need him right now. I would look for him next year though. In case Jason Allen or one of our other corners wants to jump ship and test the market.
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Biggest issue for him is he is pretty much locked into nickle/slot CB. McCain has that shit on lock.
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Default Re: Where is Brandon Harris

He's been inactive the past couple of weeks, I think he is basically just a fill in if somebody who plays primarily Special Teams like McMannis gets hurt. The last time he was active was when McMannis got hurt, don't think we'll see him at CB this year barring any major injuries in the Secondary. What we're doing now is working, no need to force the issue.
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Harris is basically being redshirted this year so that he's ready for next year. It's what Kubiak should have done with KJ last year but didn't have a choice since we didn't get anyone in FA last year.
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I think Allen & KJ are playing well enough to not need Harris. I still like the Harris pick, though, as a precautionary if the Allen/KJ combo didn't work out.
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Personally, I didn't expect Kareem and Jason Allen to play as well as they've been playing. I expected them to both get benched and Brandon to be starting by this point. On top of that McCain and McMannis have been playing well.

I was totally and completely wrong.

It's going to be interesting to see how he develops.
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Harris is basically being redshirted this year so that he's ready for next year. It's what Kubiak should have done with KJ last year but didn't have a choice since we didn't get anyone in FA last year.
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plus, I think they learned it's best not to rush a guy into the fray before he's really ready. That could scar him for life.
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Personally, I didn't expect Kareem and Jason Allen to play as well as they've been playing. I expected them to both get benched and Brandon to be starting by this point. On top of that McCain and McMannis have been playing well.

I was totally and completely wrong.

It's going to be interesting to see how he develops.
This.

I don't know if I had any expectations for Kareem, McMannis, & McCain.

I think Wade Phillips fell in love with McCain the moment he saw him. He penciled him in as the nickel corner the same day he said Quin would move to safety.

& he hasn't disappointed, he's been pretty consistent & playing as well as he had his rookie season.

McMannis is really the surprise to me, he's a monster on special teams. Coverage wise.

I think we've just got better corners than we thought we would. I've got to think Wade & co were thinking Allen or Kareem would have played their way out of the starting line-up by now, but even if one of them were hurt, I doubt they'd bring Harris up, the other would just play more snaps.

Looks like we've got three starting corners plus McCain. & McMannis is just too good on special teams right now. The competition at that position is just too tough right now.
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Default Re: Brandon Harris where are you?

We'll be losing some talent in the offseason. We still have Charmichael who got IR'd in what I can only assume was a roster space move.

Now, its a question of who you're willing to part with. Jason Allen, for all his faults, is a good veteran presence who has played pretty well on the whole, but I find it difficult to see how we're going to give up on a younger guy with potential behind him, especially given the relative cap hits involved.

Training camp will be really intense at that position, at least one guy is going to get cut who has ability or potential.
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We'll be losing some talent in the offseason. We still have Charmichael who got IR'd in what I can only assume was a roster space move.

Now, its a question of who you're willing to part with. Jason Allen, for all his faults, is a good veteran presence who has played pretty well on the whole, but I find it difficult to see how we're going to give up on a younger guy with potential behind him, especially given the relative cap hits involved.

Training camp will be really intense at that position, at least one guy is going to get cut who has ability or potential.
Jason Allen is also a free agent after this year, so if he does well enough on this awesome defense, we may get priced out of the market on him due to cap issues. Although, I think KJ will be fine stepping in as the #2 CB in his third year and then Harris can be the #3 CB.
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What still nicks my concience is Harris started a rookie diary he was sharing with fans and that completely dried up. I was concerned he might have got in someone's dog house. Roc & Brandon will be like high draft picks but with some class room experience. Corner could turn into a strength like running back.
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Roc & Brandon will be like high draft picks but with some class room experience. Corner could turn into a strength like running back.
That's how dynasties are made.

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Following are a number of whispers we've been hearing from around the AFC:

While rookies J.J. Watt, Brooks Reed and T.J. Yates were making big contributions for the Texans this past season, second-round CB Brandon Harris, whom the club moved up to draft, was pretty much a forgotten man. Word is Harris' lack of speed made it hard for him to get on the field, even on special teams. With the improvement of nickel CB Brice McCain, it remains to be seen if Harris can carve out a bigger role next season.

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Harris had no role in Houston's secondary, and coaches felt he didn't run downfield fast enough to contribute on kick and punt coverage. Undersized with a 4.53 forty time, Harris probably won't be viewed as future starter by the Texans. He may get a chance to play behind Johnathan Joseph, Kareem Jackson, and nickel back Brice McCain in 2012, replacing free agent Jason Allen. Jan 22 - 2:47 PM

Not looking good....
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Why did we draft a slow defensive back in the 2nd round?
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