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Old 09-26-2011   #1
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On that key 3rd down where Schaub went down like a fainting goat, he did have a legitimate reason for his head and neck to be in pain.

After Schaub goes down, Roman Harper goes down to cover up Schaub.

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http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-orlean...sack-6-yd-loss

From the last two slow-mo angles, it looks like Harper intentionally raises his right knee/thigh to plant it onto Schaub's dome. Very sneaky cheap shot there by Harper.

Judge for yourselves. I think it looks fishy. Why raise his right leg off the ground like that? It looks unnatural, unless you were intentionally trying to knee the guy in the head.


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There's nothing there. He went to make sure Schaub was downed and his momentum carried him into him and he hit at some awkward angle. Nothing intentional at all from what I saw.
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All I got out of all that is that Schaub will not make it out in Hollywood. He's a ****ty actor. I kinda felt that he was playing the injured card to slow the clock down.

Either way, I'm glad he's ok.
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Default Re: Roman Harper cheap shot?

Can't say for sure what Schaub really felt, but to me it looked like he felt contact on his helmet and decided to try and act a little to see if he can draw a flag.
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Default Re: Roman Harper cheap shot?

I'm far from a Schaub fan, but I don't think he was acting.

Nick Collins of the Packers is out for the season with a neck injury in which his neck was jarred in a similar fashion, though the Collins blow was obviously more severe.

(vid: http://www.nfl.com/videos/green-bay-...out-for-season)

What happened to Collins was clearly accidental.

What Harper did looked kind of intentional, to me at least.
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He's been trying to get that blow to head call all year. It's not working. His acting is on par w the Giants.
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I don't think it was intentional but Schaub's head gets a quick little snap and those don't feel good. Acting? Knees to the head hurt fool.
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Default Re: Roman Harper cheap shot?

Please. Dude was trying to draw a flag. That was plain as day for anyone to see, including the refs, who apparently didn't see much of anything else that game (on both sides of the ball).

Schaub is better than that. Way better. I get the whole "win at all cost" mentality, but that was embarrassing to watch.
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Default Re: Roman Harper cheap shot?

It didn't look intentional to me. Seemed like Harper was coming in fast and did his best to put his hands on the ground and avoid hitting Schaub and not draw a flag.
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On that key 3rd down where Schaub went down like a fainting goat, he did have a legitimate reason for his head and neck to be in pain.

After Schaub goes down, Roman Harper goes down to cover up Schaub.

The video is here:
http://www.nfl.com/videos/new-orlean...sack-6-yd-loss

From the last two slow-mo angles, it looks like Harper intentionally raises his right knee/thigh to plant it onto Schaub's dome. Very sneaky cheap shot there by Harper.

Judge for yourselves. I think it looks fishy. Why raise his right leg off the ground like that? It looks unnatural, unless you were intentionally trying to knee the guy in the head.


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watch Harper's right knee and how he turns his hips.



It looks to me that Harper lifted his knee to actually avoid hitting Schaub in the head with it. He ended up sliding into him with his hip, instead.
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Default Re: Roman Harper cheap shot?

If the refs didn't call the two A-holes who were bladantly holding on to AJ's jersey near the end of the second quarter, they certainly weren't going to call that.
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lol you can't be serious. reaching much? just accept the loss..
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Please. Dude was trying to draw a flag. That was plain as day for anyone to see, including the refs, who apparently didn't see much of anything else that game (on both sides of the ball).

Schaub is better than that. Way better. I get the whole "win at all cost" mentality, but that was embarrassing to watch.
This is the first thing I've seen you post where I really thought "What?" Dude wasn't trying to draw a flag. It probably hurt but it wasn't anything big. Schaub's been hammered over the years particularly in the head. A few years ago he got mugged by the Chargers and probably should have pressed charges. His reaction wasn't "embarrassing". For the record I didn't think Harper did anything intentionally but try and cover the QB up. **** happens, people get hit in awkward ways during football games. Everyone's moving and nobody can read minds.

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It looks to me that Harper lifted his knee to actually avoid hitting Schaub in the head with it. He ended up sliding into him with his hip, instead.
This is what I saw as well. I thought it looked like he didn't quite get the knee out of the way and he did hit Schaub with it but it was in no way malicious or intentional nor should it have been called a penalty. Instead I call it "football".

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lol you can't be serious. reaching much? just accept the loss..
He's serious but he's wrong.
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Default Re: Roman Harper cheap shot?

Bad calls all around. The game is so subjective that its turning into basketball. A guy running a 4.4 hits another guy running a 4.4, there is going to be a mess. As Manning is learning, you basically have to arm tackle now. The Texans should throw jump passes over the middle all day. Guaranteed penalty or catch.
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The game is so subjective that its turning into basketball. A guy running a 4.4 hits another guy running a 4.4, there is going to be a mess. As Manning is learning, you basically have to arm tackle now. The Texans should throw jump passes over the middle all day. Guaranteed penalty or catch.
The rules are definitely getting ridiculous in regards to contact with receivers. They have made it almost impossible to defend against the pass over the middle anymore. Goodell is ruining the game. Im not sure how you are supposed to hit people with your shoulder without leading with your head etc......
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This is the first thing I've seen you post where I really thought "What?" Dude wasn't trying to draw a flag. It probably hurt but it wasn't anything big. Schaub's been hammered over the years particularly in the head. A few years ago he got mugged by the Chargers and probably should have pressed charges. His reaction wasn't "embarrassing". For the record I didn't think Harper did anything intentionally but try and cover the QB up. **** happens, people get hit in awkward ways during football games. Everyone's moving and nobody can read minds.
Fair enough. I'll correct my statement to say it looked to me like Schaub was laying it on a little thick there at the end and was trying to get that "roughing the passer" call that they seem to hand out like candy these days. If he really was in that much pain then that collision was way worse than it looked from the few shots we have, but yes he's on the field, we're not so who is to say how bad it was.
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Schaub feels one hand touch him and he'll be down like a sack of potatoes. I see a defender take one step into the pocket and I know Schaub will soon go down or throw an interception. His scrambling ability is nil.
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Default Re: Roman Harper cheap shot?

Nah, didn't really look like a cheap shot in real time, and the replays make it feel the same now a day later.
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Default Re: Roman Harper cheap shot?

Ridiculous to assert this was a cheap shot, and equally so to say Schaub was faking it. You guys think that just because you wear a helmet you can't compress your spine or see stars when a knee hits you right on the top of the head? Do us all a favor and climb a chair, put on your helmet and fall head first into the floor.
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Default Re: Roman Harper cheap shot?

wasnt a cheap shot imo, but he did get a knee to the head that snapped his head back...anyone who's had one of those know they hurt like hell....im sure he's got some soreness back there today.
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