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**welsh texan** · 09-25-2011

OK so we got gashed up and down the field in the 2nd half of that game, it really wasn't pretty but...

I think many of us had the sense from the first two games that this D looked better than perhaps it was. The way we've had the ball run on us was a concern and the way we weren't able to stop screens for instance.

I think we have seen today that that incling was probably correct, we came up against our first power O and having taken some time to figure us out, late in the game they were able to exploit us.

I think in reality this is down to 2 things, Wade hasn't had enough time to get this D to 100% yet, the positive of that is that there is improvement to come, this season.

Also, I think the depth isn't what you'd ideally want. Apart from Watt, it appears that the rookies losing a full pre-season has hurt their early development and that is costing us. This is something that can will only improve as well as they get better week on week in practice and hopefully will be more capable come mid-season.

I'd also say we're still a draft away (aren't we always!?) from being where we'd want, especially on the depth side of things, I think they need someone better than Nolan as the backup safety (Nolan has the big play ability, which is ok, but it only takes him so far, look at his angle's, they're horrible). I think they need KJ to get better still, although I'm not throwing him under the bus for getting beaten by the best QB he'll face this year.

I also think they are a ways away from having the depth they need on the D-line, seeing Watt gasping in the 4th quarter attests to that.

Frankly, I think we have every chance of getting in the playoffs this season without ever beating a good team, the schedule is one of the easier in my memory, so I'm not too worried about any of these.

I think they got found out as a transitional defense today. We shouldn't be too surprised or upset by that. I think thats down to Brees and one of the more explosive O's in the league. I don't see Big Ben causing us as much of a problem next week, although it will be another tough game.

TexanSam · 09-25-2011

I like the scheme and they played well today in spurts. But Wade could call the best defensive game of all time and it won't change the fact that Kareem Jackson is just bad.

**badboy** · 09-25-2011

Wade's D is just what I thought it was. He is saddled with some players that he cannot replace yet but this D will continue to improve. KJ might face a good QB against Steelers also.

ziggy29 · 09-25-2011

Depth is a problem, especially when your defense is on the field for too much of the second half. Any defense, no matter how well coached, will start faltering if it spends most of the second half on the field and there isn't enough depth to keep quality players in the game and resting on the sidelines.

**welsh texan** · 09-25-2011

Don't get me wrong, this thread isn't having a go at Wade's D, its simply pointing out that I, and I think plenty of others, realised that this day was likely to come sooner or later.

A shortened off season and lots of 4-3 personnel, it wasn't going to happen overnight and lo and behold it hasn't.

I actually think Wade has done a fantastic job to get them looking respectable, and also that I think the team can make the playoffs without beating a really good team this season looking at our schedule.

Therefore my conclusion is that it isn't time for the knee-jerking thats beeing seen on this board. Transitional team loses in close battle with Championship contenders. Not a massive headline, even if it did look a little ugly late in the game.

**kiwitexansfan** · 09-25-2011

Sacks and TOs.

I'll take it.

Somedays you just get beat by a better team.

fiasco west · 09-25-2011

I just want to say we need much better nose tackle play.

We get gashed up the middle a lot and even when the QB steps up the nose is never there to apply any pressure. If he had been a lot of those times where Brees danced in the pocket would have resulted in a positive play.

But other than that I am very satisfied. I think the defense is average, not good but average. Which should bring out a good season for the Texans with their offense.

**ATXtexanfan** · 09-25-2011

Quote:

Originally Posted by fiasco west

I just want to say we need much better nose tackle play.

We get gashed up the middle a lot and even when the QB steps up the nose is never there to apply any pressure. If he had been a lot of those times where Brees danced in the pocket would have resulted in a positive play.

But other than that I am very satisfied. I think the defense is average, not good but average. Which should bring out a good season for the Texans with their offense.

just wanna say a better qb and who cares about the D

09-25-2011	#1
welsh texan Lest we forget Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Llandudno, Wales Age: 25 Posts: 1,476 Rep Power: 13120	Wade's D OK so we got gashed up and down the field in the 2nd half of that game, it really wasn't pretty but... I think many of us had the sense from the first two games that this D looked better than perhaps it was. The way we've had the ball run on us was a concern and the way we weren't able to stop screens for instance. I think we have seen today that that incling was probably correct, we came up against our first power O and having taken some time to figure us out, late in the game they were able to exploit us. I think in reality this is down to 2 things, Wade hasn't had enough time to get this D to 100% yet, the positive of that is that there is improvement to come, this season. Also, I think the depth isn't what you'd ideally want. Apart from Watt, it appears that the rookies losing a full pre-season has hurt their early development and that is costing us. This is something that can will only improve as well as they get better week on week in practice and hopefully will be more capable come mid-season. I'd also say we're still a draft away (aren't we always!?) from being where we'd want, especially on the depth side of things, I think they need someone better than Nolan as the backup safety (Nolan has the big play ability, which is ok, but it only takes him so far, look at his angle's, they're horrible). I think they need KJ to get better still, although I'm not throwing him under the bus for getting beaten by the best QB he'll face this year. I also think they are a ways away from having the depth they need on the D-line, seeing Watt gasping in the 4th quarter attests to that. Frankly, I think we have every chance of getting in the playoffs this season without ever beating a good team, the schedule is one of the easier in my memory, so I'm not too worried about any of these. I think they got found out as a transitional defense today. We shouldn't be too surprised or upset by that. I think thats down to Brees and one of the more explosive O's in the league. I don't see Big Ben causing us as much of a problem next week, although it will be another tough game. __________________ They shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the gowing down of the sun and in the morning, We will remember them.

09-25-2011	#2
TexanSam Hall of Fame Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Houston Age: 25 Posts: 16,604 Rep Power: 22863	Re: Wade's D I like the scheme and they played well today in spurts. But Wade could call the best defensive game of all time and it won't change the fact that Kareem Jackson is just bad. __________________ Thanks to Premier

09-25-2011	#3
badboy Site Contributor Join Date: Apr 2007 Location: Clear Lake Posts: 18,991 Rep Power: 30909	Re: Wade's D Wade's D is just what I thought it was. He is saddled with some players that he cannot replace yet but this D will continue to improve. KJ might face a good QB against Steelers also. __________________ The sound of marine engines and superchargers soon shall fill the air!

09-25-2011	#4
ziggy29 Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2007 Location: Llano, TX Age: 47 Posts: 1,225 Rep Power: 1301	Re: Wade's D Depth is a problem, especially when your defense is on the field for too much of the second half. Any defense, no matter how well coached, will start faltering if it spends most of the second half on the field and there isn't enough depth to keep quality players in the game and resting on the sidelines.

09-25-2011	#5
welsh texan Lest we forget Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Llandudno, Wales Age: 25 Posts: 1,476 Rep Power: 13120	Re: Wade's D Don't get me wrong, this thread isn't having a go at Wade's D, its simply pointing out that I, and I think plenty of others, realised that this day was likely to come sooner or later. A shortened off season and lots of 4-3 personnel, it wasn't going to happen overnight and lo and behold it hasn't. I actually think Wade has done a fantastic job to get them looking respectable, and also that I think the team can make the playoffs without beating a really good team this season looking at our schedule. Therefore my conclusion is that it isn't time for the knee-jerking thats beeing seen on this board. Transitional team loses in close battle with Championship contenders. Not a massive headline, even if it did look a little ugly late in the game. __________________ They shall not grow old, as we that are left grow old: Age shall not weary them, nor the years condemn. At the gowing down of the sun and in the morning, We will remember them.

09-25-2011	#6
kiwitexansfan Bring Him Back Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Auckland, New Zealand Age: 35 Posts: 7,903 Rep Power: 7242	Re: Wade's D Sacks and TOs. I'll take it. Somedays you just get beat by a better team. __________________ All random posts made entirely of smilies courtesy of kiwitexansfanjr -age 4

09-25-2011	#7
fiasco west Hall of Fame Join Date: Sep 2010 Posts: 1,770 Rep Power: 3968	Re: Wade's D I just want to say we need much better nose tackle play. We get gashed up the middle a lot and even when the QB steps up the nose is never there to apply any pressure. If he had been a lot of those times where Brees danced in the pocket would have resulted in a positive play. But other than that I am very satisfied. I think the defense is average, not good but average. Which should bring out a good season for the Texans with their offense.

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