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Old 09-25-2011   #81
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Wade Phillips is a co-ordinator, who plays under Head Coach
Gary Kubiak. When a sailor screws up on a ship, you talk to
the captain. Simple chain-of-command.
i do agree with this, there was 2:40 left we had 2 time outs and we sling it and sling it and dont attempt not even 1 run.
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I'm sorry. Explain to me how our offense scored 33 pts on a team that's one year removed from a Super Bowl championship and it's on Kubiak when the DEFENSE gave up FORTY POINTS!

Where's the FIRE WADE PHILLIPS thread?? His defense gave up FORTY, count 'em FORTY points.
How does a genius defensive coordinator get burned by the same two-pt conversion play twice in a row? Yet, this loss is all Kubiak's fault...?
You are exactly right about our defense.

The Saints showed everyone exactly what our weaknesses are.

And for the record, I like this defense alot more than any we have put on the field before this year.

Now let's see how a real D-coordinator makes adjustments the rest of the year.
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So, again, Wade gets off Scott Free because you hate Kubiak. Wade's new and improved defense gave up 23 pts in the fourth qtr but, according to you, Wade bears absolutely NO responsibility.

Yeah, that's very objective of you
I don't hate Kubiak at all. I'm just acknowledging an undeniable pattern
that manifests itself each season of his tenure as head coach of the
Texans. Kubiak is the common denominator in what we've been
seeing the last six years.

Should the Texans make/miss the playoffs in 2011, and Kubiak would
tell ya this, it'll be ON HIM.
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I'm sorry. Explain to me how our offense scored 33 pts on a team that's one year removed from a Super Bowl championship and it's on Kubiak when the DEFENSE gave up FORTY POINTS!

Where's the FIRE WADE PHILLIPS thread?? His defense gave up FORTY, count 'em FORTY points.
How does a genius defensive coordinator get burned by the same two-pt conversion play twice in a row? Yet, this loss is all Kubiak's fault...?
did you really think 33 pts at NO was gonna do it? dude you are better than that. for real bro
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Did you watch the game? Tate was gimpy and Slaton was ineffective. The running game was not working in the second half.
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That's weak Dex.
Following that logic (and I use the term loosely), no other coach, none of the players, none of the staff have any responsibility, any expectation to do their job properly.
"Hey, I can call a sucky defensive game, after all, Dex says I have no responsibility or accountability because it's all on the head coach."

That's really weak.
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That quote you posted was taken out of context. It was not predicting
the 2011 squad to end up 8-8. It was a display of how our discussions
regarding this team has not changed in 3 seasons.

I WANT to be able to talk about different shit with this team, they just
have not presented the opportunity.
Same difference. You don't believe this team has changed, that means you believe we'll be 5-7 or worse in the first 12 games.

I think this is a different team, even though they wear the same uniforms & have the same names on the sideline. I think we'll get to 6 wins in that first 12, but to make the bet even more in your favor, I'm saying we'll win 6 in the first 9.

Like I said, should be an easy bet for you. If you truly don't see a difference.
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You are exactly right about our defense.

The Saints showed everyone exactly what our weaknesses are.

And for the record, I like this defense alot more than any we have put on the field before this year.

Now let's see how a real D-coordinator makes adjustments the rest of the year.
I hear you, don't disagree. But how many teams can score with us?

If we get a lead on just about anyone else, play ball control, we win. Pittsburgh & Baltimore are streaky enough to score 30, but it isn't their forte, so I like our chances against them, weaknesses & all.

Last year, everyone but Rusty Smith was going to score 30 on our defense.
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Maybe some of you guys should become Packer fans. This board is awful after losses. It's a new season. This beaten dog syndrome is annoying. Half the board claims the season is over after a loss to a year removed super bowl team who looks every bit the part now. We were up 9 in the 4th. Moral victories are Lame but we had a chance to win the game in the fourth. If you asked me if I would take that before the game started? I'd say every day twice on Sunday. We will kick Pittsuburg's butt on sunday.
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Maybe some of you guys should become Packer fans. This board is awful after losses. It's a new season. This beaten dog syndrome is annoying. Half the board claims the season is over after a loss to a year removed super bowl team who looks every bit the part now. We were up 9 in the 4th. Moral victories are Lame but we had a chance to win the game in the fourth. If you asked me if I would take that before the game started? I'd say every day twice on Sunday. We will kick Pittsuburg's butt on sunday.
What makes you say that? The Steelers having a down year?
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Maybe some of you guys should become Packer fans. This board is awful after losses. It's a new season. This beaten dog syndrome is annoying. Half the board claims the season is over after a loss to a year removed super bowl team who looks every bit the part now. We were up 9 in the 4th. Moral victories are Lame but we had a chance to win the game in the fourth. If you asked me if I would take that before the game started? I'd say every day twice on Sunday. We will kick Pittsuburg's butt on sunday.
if we were up by nine in the 4th every game and lost.......
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I hear you, don't disagree. But how many teams can score with us?

If we get a lead on just about anyone else, play ball control, we win. Pittsburgh & Baltimore are streaky enough to score 30, but it isn't their forte, so I like our chances against them, weaknesses & all.

Last year, everyone but Rusty Smith was going to score 30 on our defense.
I'm a big fan of Wade Phillips.

I'm excited to see how he adjusts and makes up for these obvious deficiencies.

Might make a huge difference in the attitude we see today and the one we see winning in the playoffs.
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i do agree with this, there was 2:40 left we had 2 time outs and we sling it and sling it and dont attempt not even 1 run.
Let's review.... At the 2:42 mark in the 4th qtr, we were on our own 20 and behind by 7. Obviously we need a TD. At this point Tate was gimpy and Slaton had been pretty much ineffective all day long. So at this point our best two weapons are A.J. and O.D.
And you thought we should have RUN the ball...??
If you had said, go single back and try to get Slaton the ball with a screen or let A.D. & O.D. take the defense deep then throw it to Slaton or Tate underneath, I could see that. Maybe they break one.
But run the ball??
I have to respectfully disagree with that strategy give that we only had Slaton and Tate working with a bad wheel.
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Same difference. You don't believe this team has changed, that means you believe we'll be 5-7 or worse in the first 12 games.

I think this is a different team, even though they wear the same uniforms & have the same names on the sideline. I think we'll get to 6 wins in that first 12, but to make the bet even more in your favor, I'm saying we'll win 6 in the first 9.

Like I said, should be an easy bet for you. If you truly don't see a difference.
I see what ur doin...LOL
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Let's review.... At the 2:42 mark in the 4th qtr, we were on our own 20 and behind by 7. Obviously we need a TD. At this point Tate was gimpy and Slaton had been pretty much ineffective all day long. So at this point our best two weapons are A.J. and O.D.
And you thought we should have RUN the ball...??
If you had said, go single back and try to get Slaton the ball with a screen or let A.D. & O.D. take the defense deep then throw it to Slaton or Tate underneath, I could see that. Maybe they break one.
But run the ball??
I have to respectfully disagree with that strategy give that we only had Slaton and Tate working with a bad wheel.
after tate hurt his ankle he came back in and still had some solid runs, hell let casey run the ball, but there was no reason to sling it at that point in the game.
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That's weak Dex.
Following that logic (and I use the term loosely), no other coach, none of the players, none of the staff have any responsibility, any expectation to do their job properly.
"Hey, I can call a sucky defensive game, after all, Dex says I have no responsibility or accountability because it's all on the head coach."

That's really weak.
Sure they all have responsibility. However, it's the responsibility
of the head coach to answer for his players' execution of the
head coach's program. You probably don't realize this, but
your boss gets HIS ass chewed when YOU make a mistake.

That's the way chain-of-command works. Gary Kubiak has
had six years to build this team into a contender, and as of
today, that objective has yet to be reached.

Hopefully, six times' a charm.
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I see what ur doin...LOL
lol me, too. That's just TK bein' TK.
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What makes you say that? The Steelers having a down year?
I have confidence were a top 4 team in the AFC. We will get it done.
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Same difference. You don't believe this team has changed, that means you believe we'll be 5-7 or worse in the first 12 games.

I think this is a different team, even though they wear the same uniforms & have the same names on the sideline. I think we'll get to 6 wins in that first 12, but to make the bet even more in your favor, I'm saying we'll win 6 in the first 9.

Like I said, should be an easy bet for you. If you truly don't see a difference.
There's nothing predictive about anything I said.
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I'm a big fan of Wade Phillips.

I'm excited to see how he adjusts and makes up for these obvious deficiencies.

Might make a huge difference in the attitude we see today and the one we see winning in the playoffs.
I seriously doubt he's installed the whole defense yet. This is still a work in progress. Good teams are going to make us look like crap.

But I think our offense is good enough (not elite) to win a few until they get there.
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Sure they all have responsibility. However, it's the responsibility
of the head coach to answer for his players' execution of the
head coach's program. You probably don't realize this, but
your boss gets HIS ass chewed when YOU make a mistake.

That's the way chain-of-command works. Gary Kubiak has
had six years to build this team into a contender, and as of
today, that objective has yet to be reached.

Hopefully, six times' a charm.
We're not a contender because we lost to the Saints in week 3?

c'mon man.
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