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Old 10-04-2011   #181
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This line is one I'd like to dissect separately.
It's a very misleading statistic. Sure it's a very lopsided one, that makes short work out of most argument, however, it's excluding a simple fact... THIS Texans team is 3-1 overall and 1-1 on road. Comparing this team to the two seasons past is weak.

I get it.. in the past we sucked!! no argument there. For those on here who can't recognize our LONG awaited transition from SUCK to ROCK....

I feel sorry for you.

THIS is the time you've been waiting for... JUMP ON!
That stat includes ALL of the Kubiak-era seasons, including the
two-consecutive "non-losing" seasons, and "the greatest 9-7
record in Texans history.

This team has shown a penchant of losing to good teams on the road, and nearly
NEVER beating them. If you expect to be taken seriously, beat good teams on the road.
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That stat includes ALL of the Kubiak-era seasons, including the
two-consecutive "non-losing" seasons, and "the greatest 9-7
record in Texans history.

This team has shown a penchant of losing to good teams on the road, and nearly
NEVER beating them. If you expect to be taken seriously, beat good teams on the road.

Incorrect.

Teams of past have, but... This team has lost 1 game. 1 game does not qualify as a penchant reference.
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That stat includes ALL of the Kubiak-era seasons, including the
two-consecutive "non-losing" seasons, and "the greatest 9-7
record in Texans history.

This team has shown a penchant of losing to good teams on the road, and nearly
NEVER beating them. If you expect to be taken seriously, beat good teams on the road.
Dexman, you're BOTH right, but his point is that we actually have a good DC for once, making this team incomparable to past seasons.

Yeah, we lost by a TD and extra point in New Orleans, but how many teams wouldn't? Do we have to be a SB contender RIGHT NOW to be respectable? I figure a LOT of teams are not great on the road against a top 5 opponent. I think we turn that 1-19 record around a little bit this year, but it won't be in New Orleans, and it probably won't be in Baltimore either. How 'bout Tennessee?
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Incorrect.

Teams of past have, but... This team has lost 1 game. 1 game does not qualify as a penchant reference.
I'm talking the SIX-YEAR history of THE CURRENT REGIME.

There is a penchant under the SIX-YEAR Kubiak regime.

He could change that At Tennessee and At Baltimore.
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Dexman, you're BOTH right, but his point is that we actually have a good DC for once, making this team incomparable to past seasons.

Yeah, we lost by a TD and extra point in New Orleans, but how many teams wouldn't? Do we have to be a SB contender RIGHT NOW to be respectable? I figure a LOT of teams are not great on the road against a top 5 opponent. I think we turn that 1-19 record around a little bit this year, but it won't be in New Orleans, and it probably won't be in Baltimore either. How 'bout Tennessee?
The head coach is still the most important coaching position on the team.
That 1-19 was acquired against teams with WINNING RECORDS, not "top 5
teams." It just further illustrates the fact they've NEVER beaten a "Top 5"
team on the road.
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I'm talking the SIX-YEAR history of THE CURRENT REGIME.

There is a penchant under the SIX-YEAR Kubiak regime.

He could change that At Tennessee and At Baltimore.

I understand... I thought you said "This Team".

My bad
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Still can't beat conference contenders on the road, in year SIX,
of THIS coach's regime? Why is KUBIAK STILL HERE???

By the way....

This is game TWO of the ANNUAL FOUR-GAME LOSING STREAK.

They've had at least one 4-game losing streak, EVERY YEAR
Kubiak has been here.
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as of now, no reason to think we win in tenn, doesn't jax always beat us
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Still can't beat conference contenders on the road, in year SIX,
Good thing there aren't any more of those on the schedule.
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Good thing there aren't any more of those on the schedule.
Too bad it won't stop kubiak from losing a string of them.
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Good thing there aren't any more of those on the schedule.
They don't win division games on the road much, either. Got a ton of those
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we surley have beaten a few ?????? i just cant think right NOW :P

didnt we beat the like 13-1 titans one year
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we surley have beaten a few ?????? i just cant think right NOW :P

didnt we beat the like 13-1 titans one year
Those "...'s" are there for a reason. Go read the first post.
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who are fighting for playoff berths, and are not resting starters.
The Titans had already clinched the division at that time, and a 1st
round bye. They were playing the game in a way to minimize injuries,
not to maximize their chance to win. These are pretty much the
ONLY occasions the Texans can get a win against a REAL team.

Much like the game against the Patriots that saved them from a
3rd-consecutive 8-8 season.
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1-18 vs winning teams on the road

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Went to check and sure enough...
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1-19 on the road don't lie.
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Much like the game against the Patriots that saved them from a
3rd-consecutive 8-8 season.
What's funny about that Patriots game is that many Texans fans have sworn the Patriots were trying to win that game.

Unfortunately (for those Texans fans), actual video of Belichick proves otherwise. He was featured on NFLN's "A Football Life" a few weeks ago, and it was filmed during the 2009 season. They went into that game knowing that they would pull starters. Their goal was not to win it, but to keep players from getting hurt before the playoffs. This is a strategy concept that most likely seems alien to many Texans fans, all things considered.
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Still can't beat conference contenders on the road, in year SIX,
of THIS coach's regime? Why is KUBIAK STILL HERE???

By the way....

This is game TWO of the ANNUAL FOUR-GAME LOSING STREAK.

They've had at least one 4-game losing streak, EVERY YEAR
Kubiak has been here.
Dude, you are ruining the taste of my koolaide when you use accurate past data to prove you point and forecast what is going to happen. Stop it.

Seriously, coincidences are no longer coincidences, they are annual occurrences. Bad ones. Kubiak has to change a lot of stuff the rest of the season.

I will rep you later for bringing it to my attention.
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Nope. I almost HOPE we don't squeak into the play-offs. Wade can stay as DC, but everyone else needs to get got. Ship Shammy's ass with Pubes and draft a rookie QB. Move up if you have too. Teams turn shit around with rookies and coach changes all the time. **** Smith and **** Gary.
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Read again.

Kubiak should've been fired THREE SEASONS AGO.

It's Deja Vu all over. When this team goes 3 games over .500 (the only
way to do so is to beat at least ONE contending team,) then my tune
will change.
This game is more-of-the-same, and so are my comments.
The Texans have now gotten to 6-3 and are 3 games over .500 for the first time. Since you made this post on 9/25/11, the Texans have beaten: Pitt, Ten, Jax, and Cleveland. They lost to Oakland and Baltimore. Since the Texans have now gotten to 3 games over .500 and have beaten 1 contender (Pitt), would you say your tune has changed?
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The Texans have now gotten to 6-3 and are 3 games over .500 for the first time. Since you made this post on 9/25/11, the Texans have beaten: Pitt, Ten, Jax, and Cleveland. They lost to Oakland and Baltimore. Since the Texans have now gotten to 3 games over .500 and have beaten 1 contender (Pitt), would you say your tune has changed?
I'd have to admit that I'm quite impressed. They have yet to go "space cadet"
after stringing together a win or two. Their game-in game-out focus
has been remarkable. Let's see them keep it up.
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