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View Poll Results: Who's going to win this Match-up
Eric Winston 27 52.94%
Cameron Wake 24 47.06%
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Old 09-15-2011   #1
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Default Eric Winston vs Cameron Wake

Cameron Wake had a good season in 2010..... a very good season, 14 sacks. They'll flip him around, sometimes he's going to play Duane Brown on the left side, but I think he'll play predominately on the right, vs Eric. Sure, he'll go against OD, Dressen, & Casey on occasion.

I honestly am not worried about those other guys, my concern is Eric Winston. I think he's going to struggle. What do you think?
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Default Re: Eric Winston vs Cameron Wake

Kubiak isn't going to just drop Schaub back all day and ask the caveman to pass block all day.

But that pass blocking play against Mathis last week was u-g-l-y.

Winston could really get Schaub hurt if he's giving up those kinds of sacks where the defender basically has a free shot on him and schaub's expecting him to be to be blocked.

That said, I think Winston wins overall...Even if he gives up one sack, I think he will win in the run game and on most pass plays simply because of design...
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Default Re: Eric Winston vs Cameron Wake

What exactly constitutes 'winning the matchup'? Last week Winston allowed 1 sack, had a holding penalty and I think he had 1 false start. Not sure what else you could count against him. Anyways, did he 'win' the matchup against Mathis?
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What exactly constitutes 'winning the matchup'? Last week Winston allowed 1 sack, had a holding penalty and I think he had 1 false start. Not sure what else you could count against him. Anyways, did he 'win' the matchup against Mathis?
I would call last week winning....I'm not sure about this week though, I hope I'm wrong about my vote.

Wake looked insane strong against the Pats.
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That said, I think Winston wins overall...Even if he gives up one sack, I think he will win in the run game and on most pass plays simply because of design...
Good way of looking at it.
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Default Re: Eric Winston vs Cameron Wake

I picked Wake for the head-to-head matchup. However, I don't think that Winston will go without help the whole game, especially if he gets beat early.
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Default Re: Eric Winston vs Cameron Wake

I refuse to vote on the grounds that....well, I'm too sexy for this thread.
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Default Re: Eric Winston vs Cameron Wake

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Last week Winston allowed 1 sack.
Winston said he thought he was going to have help on that play so he took Mathis on the inside. The running back either helped Brown or picked up a blitz. Winston took the blame.
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I picked Wake for the head-to-head matchup. However, I don't think that Winston will go without help the whole game, especially if he gets beat early.
I agree with this. I think the Texans will use use some screens, draws and bootlegs to take Wake out of his comfort zone, but I still think head to head, Wake>Winston on passing plays.
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Default Re: Eric Winston vs Cameron Wake

Winston did fine when he faced wake during his rookie season so i thnk he will do fine

wake is prob a better pass rusher then mathis tho so winston will have a challenge
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Winston said he thought he was going to have help on that play so he took Mathis on the inside. The running back either helped Brown or picked up a blitz. Winston took the blame.
Yeah well winston has been making some serious mental mistakes recently. He was also supposed to cut Ahmad Brooks on the first play in the SF-49ers game.
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Default Re: Eric Winston vs Cameron Wake

I voted for Eric Winston only because I want to remain an optimist.

I still have yet to see Winston prove to us here that he's a good pass blocker.
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I voted for Eric Winston only because I want to remain an optimist.

I still have yet to see Winston prove to us here that he's a good pass blocker.
He won't ever be that but Kubiak makes up for it because he knows that.
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Default Re: Eric Winston vs Cameron Wake

i went wake because if winston's on an island all game it's not even close, wake will put up 3+ sacks. however, with our run game, play action, and roll outs winston will have plenty of opportunities to bulldoze wake and balance the scale. i also doubt winston will be without support from the tightend or backs too often, especially after duane's manhandling of freeney last week.
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i went wake because if winston's on an island all game it's not even close, wake will put up 3+ sacks. however, with our run game, play action, and roll outs winston will have plenty of opportunities to bulldoze wake and balance the scale. i also doubt winston will be without support from the tightend or backs too often, especially after duane's manhandling of freeney last week.
If Winston ever gets put on an island, I hope it's Gilligans Island!
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Default Re: Eric Winston vs Cameron Wake

Gotta go with Wake... Prove me wrong, Winston... because I'm sure you're reading this...
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Yeah well winston has been making some serious mental mistakes recently. He was also supposed to cut Ahmad Brooks on the first play in the SF-49ers game.
Brooks dropped a few yards deep and didn't rush. Is Winston supposed to chase him down?

I'm not a huge fan of Winston performance's, but that was just a good defensive play by Brooks and a bad offensive play by Schaub.
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Default Re: Eric Winston vs Cameron Wake

He could be better but over all Winston gets the job done sometimes with help though.
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Brooks dropped a few yards deep and didn't rush. Is Winston supposed to chase him down?

I'm not a huge fan of Winston performance's, but that was just a good defensive play by Brooks and a bad offensive play by Schaub.
I think you are remembering the wrong play. Line was at the 19, Brooks rushed up and engaged Winston at the 14, pushed him to the 13, took ONE step back and picked it off at the 13 yard line. Winston could have easily cut him but he brain locked.
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Winston with a hold, YOU are the weak link Eric. Congrats.
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