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Old 04-23-2005   #1
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Default 4th round - just say Anthony Bryant

My vote for 4th round pick - The 1st round pick will provide depth and a replacement at DE, Bryant would provide the answer at NT.

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DT | (6'3", 337, 5.12) | ALABAMA

Scouts Grade: 51

Flags: (B: BULK/SIZE) Lacks size/bulk for position
[how do you lack size at 337 pounds???]
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Strengths: Is a massive DT with very good run-plugging potential. Shows decent initial quickness when fresh. Has the mass and lower body strength to consistently control the POA versus the run. He has long, strong arms and big hands. Will do a good job of keeping separation and of keeping blockers off his body. He is extremely difficult to move when he is in position and playing with leverage.

Weaknesses: Is not a good athlete. Lacks quickness, burst and penetrating skills. Provides very little production as a pass rusher. Does not make many plays in pursuit versus the run, either. Has poor conditioning and is notorious for being lazy. Wears down easily and will lose his technique and get sluggish. Weight will always have to be monitored, as he often will get too big. Stamina is also a big concern.

Overall: Bryant redshirted in 2000 and was a backup that contributed in a "wave" for most of his redshirt freshman and sophomore seasons until he took over as the starter in the final game of the 2002 season versus Hawaii. Bryant started all 13 games as a junior in 2003, finishing with 44 total tackles, but only 1.5 tackles for loss and zero sacks. He was an on-again, off-again starter as a senior in 2004, playing in a heavy rotation as a run-plugging specialist that finished with 22 tackles, three TFL and 1.5 sacks. Bryant failed to make much of an improvement from his junior to senior season and he essentially lost his starting job, as a result. He remains a mid-round prospect because of his excellent size and potential to contribute as a situational run-stopper in a two-gap scheme in the NFL. However, he provides very little production in terms of penetration versus the run or as a pass rusher, and his weight concerns will always be an issue. A team could take a chance on him as early as the fourth round but it also wouldn't surprise us if Bryant slipped to the fifth or sixth round range because of his limitations and potential for "bust".
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why not get CJ Moseley or Jerome Mathis or even Elton Brown since it is looking like he wont be taken either.
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If we really want to make an impact in the 4th round we will hear the announcer say:

"With their 4th round pick...The Texans select Jason White...Quarterback...Oklahoma."

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Cedric Houston - RB, Tennessee


You can never have too many RBs...apparently.
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I say we grab Ben Wilkerson or Elton Brown.
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Brown could work also . . . .

Elton Brown
OG | (6'4", 329, 5.3) | VIRGINIA

Scouts Grade: 87
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(OG) Elton Brown - VIRGINIAStrengths: Has rare physical tools for an OG and has continued to improve each year as a starter. Is a massive lineman with a very good wingspan and good athleticism for his size. He engulfs smaller defenders. Is able to anchor vs. the bull rush when he plays with leverage. Has better than average initial quickness for his size. Runs well for his size and does a good job of reaching as a second-level blocker in the running game. Shows good feet in pass pro and plays under control. Will be able to mirror and slide in the short area when he plays with leverage.

Weaknesses: Would like to see him play with more consistent effort and work to finish off his assignments more often rather than settling for just sealing his guy off. Still needs to improve lower body strength. Doesn't have the explosive drive or hip roll that elite NFL OL possess. Has had some minor durability issues and also has some minor character concerns. Technique is improved but still needs work. Will get lazy on occasion and will bend at the waist. Isn't as consistent as he should be.

Overall: Brown became a starting guard at UVA midway through his true freshman season in 2001. He has been a fulltime starter since, he won the Jacobs Blocking Trophy given to the ACC's best blocker in 2003, and he had his best season-to-date as a senior in 2004. He has a minor blemish on his record regarding an arrest on misdemeanor assault and battery charges that were later dropped. He was, however, a team captain in 2004 and his coaches/teammates speak awfully high of him in terms of his leadership and character. Brown has a massive frame and very good feet for his size. He has the size and upper body strength to simply overpower most defensive linemen at the point of attack when he gets into their bodies. He needs to play with more consistent leverage in pass pro and he needs to improve his lower body strength. Also, while he was improved as a senior, he needs to play with more consistent effort. With all that said, Brown has rare physical tools and the potential to develop into an upper echelon starting OG in the NFL if he continues to keep focused and work on strengthening his lower body. In our opinion, Brown is clearly the best guard prospect in this class and is well worth an early-second round draft selection.
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We're going O-Line or WR in the 4th...Bank it...(Just my prediction)
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Casserly said this is a deep draft for interior olinemen.. im thinking guard or center in rnd 4. Jason Brown maybe.
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I think if we grab another QB late it will be Stefan Lefors.
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Fred Gibson, WR from Georgia.
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best possible wr in fourth round
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Wonder if Ragone was thinking about that possibility as the mighty Berlin Thunder cruised to another victory under his leadership? Looks like he had a decent game today.
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Gotta start thinking Jerome Mathis or Elton Brown in 4th
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Originally Posted by Xman
My vote for 4th round pick - The 1st round pick will provide depth and a replacement at DE, Bryant would provide the answer at NT.

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Anthony Bryant
DT | (6'3", 337, 5.12) | ALABAMA

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Weaknesses: Is not a good athlete. Lacks quickness, burst and penetrating skills. Provides very little production as a pass rusher. Does not make many plays in pursuit versus the run, either. Has poor conditioning and is notorious for being lazy. Wears down easily and will lose his technique and get sluggish. Weight will always have to be monitored, as he often will get too big. Stamina is also a big concern.
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Enough said...That right there tells you exactly why the Texans will not take him.
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Gotta start thinking Jerome Mathis or Elton Brown in 4th
Yeah there two of the better prospects left and they are both team needs, so it sounds pretty good to me.
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Gotta start thinking Jerome Mathis or Elton Brown in 4th
I'd love to have Jerome Mathis if he falls to us in the 4th. I really like J.J. Moses, but if we draft Mathis and with the trade for Buchannon, Moses is as good as gone. I could even see Mathis eventually pushing Gaffney to the bench. He is still a little raw at WR, but he is so fast that he can take any quick pass to the house.
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i said it last round and i'll say it this round. OLB Boley.
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