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Old 04-22-2005   #1
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Default Texans hope to trade Glenn for 3rd Rounder??

This is the dumbest rumor yet. I don't think that this is the case, but a friend told me this.

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Old 04-22-2005   #2
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Maybe a 1st and a 3rd. Think the Redskins would give up their 9th pick for him? They like the older players over there...
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Default Hate to add fuel to the fire but...

LP mentioned a possible Glenn trade to the NYJ. I really don't think it will happen, but stranger things have happened...this offseason.

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When unrestricted free agent and four-year veteran Andre Dyson opted on Thursday to take a five-year, $17.5 million contract from the Seattle Seahawks, it meant the Jets likely lost their best viable option, outside of the draft, for upgrading at cornerback. And since New York officials believe in their hearts that starting cornerback Donnie Abraham is not coming back for '05 -- the savvy nine-year veteran has stayed away from all the offseason workouts to this point as he deliberates his future -- there could be a crisis of sorts at the key position.

The list of still-available veterans is not a promising one: Ty Law, Artrell Hawkins, Chad Scott, Dewayne Washington, Aaron Beasley, Dainon Sidney.

But here's one golden oldie, a guy whom New York brass is eminently familiar, that Jets officials might want to at least think about: Aaron Glenn. Yep, the same Aaron Glenn who played the first eights seasons of his 11-year NFL career with the Jets before moving to Houston in the 2002 expansion draft to help stock the Texans roster. The acquisition of cornerback Phillip Buchanon this week, in a trade with Oakland, did not automatically make Glenn expendable. In fact, Texans general manager Charley Casserly and coach Dom Capers both went out of their way to note that Glenn remains in their plans. They cited the need, with Indianapolis in the division, for having three top-shelf cornerbacks on the roster. But the addition of Buchanon, and the presence of second-year veteran Dunta Robinson, the 2004 first-rounder who was arguably the best defensive rookie in the league last season, gives the Texans a pair of young corners.

DeMarcus Faggins emerged last year as a very good "nickel" cornerback, so much so that Houston signed him to a new contract. The bet here is that Glenn could be gotten from the Texans for a pretty modest price. Sure, he's going to be 33 in mid-July, just before training camp begins. And, yes, he still has some of the most dubious hands of any corner in the NFL, and drops as many interceptions as he makes. But Glenn, who almost certainly would have to restructure his contract for the Jets, still had five pickoffs in 2004. He's had four or more interceptions in five of the past seven campaigns. Look at the other veteran corners still in the unemployment line, and suddenly, for the Jets, Glenn might not look like such a bad option.
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Old 04-22-2005   #4
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With cornerback Philip Buchanon recently acquired from the Raiders, the Houston Texans now hope, we're told, to trade holdover Aaron Glenn.
The Texans sent a second-round and third-round pick to the Raiders for Buchanon, a former first-rounder who badly wanted out of Oakland.
Glenn could enable the Texans to recapture the third-rounder that was dealt to Oakland. Last month, the Pats acquired cornerback Duane Starks from the Cardinals for a three.

I'm gonna have to call BS on that one...or at least anything that comes from profootballtalk.com
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Offer Glenn to the Skins for their 25th pick... I have been thinking about it, we signed a nickelback when we signed Lewis from the Browns, add that to the nickelback we already had in Faggins, now we have DRob, Glenn, and Buchanon...So we have 3 CB's that are starting CB's in the NFL and 2 solid nickelbacks, why are we loading up at the CB spot....
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And, yes, he still has some of the most dubious hands of any corner in the NFL, and drops as many interceptions as he makes. But Glenn, who almost certainly would have to restructure his contract for the Jets, still had five pickoffs in 2004. He's had four or more interceptions in five of the past seven campaigns.
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I think LP's article is more a product of the NY bias that tends to always surround the draft. The NYJ could pick up Rolle or Jones in the draft, and the NYJ fans would still probably boo the pick. It really wouldn't make any sense for the Jets to trade for Glenn since he'd be nothing more than a stop gap player who'd play a season or maybe two at most then be gone. After he left they'd still be left with a hole at CB.
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I'm gonna go ahead and call BS on this...If it were reported by a half-way credible source, I may actually think about the repercussions of trading him...
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I'm gonna go ahead and call BS on this...If it were reported by a half-way credible source, I may actually think about the repercussions of trading him...
Even if we don't trade him, this is probably his last season with the Texans, or am I thinking crazy again...
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Even if we don't trade him, this is probably his last season with the Texans, or am I thinking crazy again...
If Buchanon plays well, I think it's very possible that it could be, and I'd hate to see him go, but if PB proves he's worthy of a starting position here, then so be it...
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Honestly, I look at this year as the year Capers better make something happen..otherwise his job will be in jeopardy.
Trading Glenn would be a suicide...especially with someone like Buchanon coming in, where Glenn could tutor him.

This deal won't happen...at least if Capers wants to keep his job for another season.
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yea theres no way we should play glenn, has he lost a step yea sure any player will with aage but hes still alot better than buchanon is RIGHT NOW and can teach him and glenn IMO is still one of the top corners in the leauge. i also think glenn is one of the more mature defensive players i have and we need a leader on the field ur right texans84 it would be suicide
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profootballtalk is about as shady a source as you can get.

Looks like the only real info we have is the conjecture from ESPN.. which states plainly that the Texans have made no indication they want to deal Glenn, and have in fact said that having 3 quality corners is what they need in our division.
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'yea theres no way we should play glenn"

haha thats my own quote i meant ot say theres no way we should trade glenn my bad
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Most dubious hands in the NFL huh? I've never seen him drop an int, and he also returned punts in college. Pbelly talking nonsense again.


I'll be very upset if they trade Glenn for a measley third rounder. He still has game and Pbuch can play the nickle as he learns the defense. Next year might be a different story.
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The only negative thing I can say about Glenn is that every once in awhile he tries to make a play on the ball and ends up missing the INT and losing the WR...
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PastaMan probably just doesn't like the Texans. First, he calls Carr a bust in his wholly unoriginal Tedford article, and now he state that Glenn has bad hands. Does Pastaman watch any film, or does he just pore over stats. Sure Carr's three year stats are overly impressive, but it is in line with other tops 3 QB picks excepts Manning who sets the standard for everyone. I going to address this next question to Vinny, since he catches most of the Texans games. Has Glenn's game declined over the past years; does he have terrible hands as Pastabelly alluded to; also, can he still be a viable starter for us next year??? Thanks for your input. If I'm lucky, I only see one to two Texans games a year.
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I going to address this next question to Vinny, since he catches most of the Texans games. Has Glenn's game declined over the past years; does he have terrible hands as Pastabelly alluded to; also, can he still be a viable starter for us next year??? Thanks for your input. If I'm lucky, I only see one to two Texans games a year.
I'll chime in even though my name isn't Vinny. IMO, the perception Glenn slowed down last year was vastly overstated and was much more a result of the new rule emphasis which affected all the CB's across the league, but Texans fans naturally notice Glenn more than other CB's (see Champ last year) and some attribute it to age. Pastabelly is an ***** about Glenn's hands IMO. The only time I have seen Glenn display "poor" hands was on a day he was an almost dominant CB--last year's Bears game. Glenn got his hands on 4 balls and INT'd 1. Keep in mind it was 12 degrees without the wind chill. IMO at Reliant he had 4 picks and still defensed the passes. IMO, he is not just viable he is very good--not elite, but one step down.
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I'll chime in even though my name isn't Vinny. IMO, the perception Glenn slowed down last year was vastly overstated and was much more a result of the new rule emphasis which affected all the CB's across the league, but Texans fans naturally notice Glenn more than other CB's (see Champ last year) and some attribute it to age. Pastabelly is an ***** about Glenn's hands IMO. The only time I have seen Glenn display "poor" hands was on a day he was an almost dominant CB--last year's Bears game. Glenn got his hands on 4 balls and INT'd 1. Keep in mind it was 12 degrees without the wind chill. IMO at Reliant he had 4 picks and still defensed the passes. IMO, he is not just viable he is very good--not elite, but one step down.
I think that is a very fair assesment of him although I'm not Vinny either.
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good post i agree with everything u just said and u have to also acknowledge that he also had a groin injury that slowed him down a bit.
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