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Old 08-13-2011   #1
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Default RotoWorld says we have the #1 O-line

I have to file this one under "We've come a long way, baby." I remember when we had to run trolls outta here for chiding us how much our O-line sucked and how we ruined HWWNBN's career by not protecting him better.

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I only quoted/posted the top five but all 32 teams are ranked in the article. I found it interesting that the Colts' line is listed at #26.

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Offensive line play heavily influences fantasy production. A dominant run-blocking line can turn an undrafted free agent into a 1,600-yard rusher, or help resurrect a declining back's career. A unit that can't pass protect may get its quarterback hurt and ruin a team's season.

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Taking stats, scheme, experience, and depth into consideration, I've ranked the NFL's offensive lines in order from 1-32. Keep in mind that in-season injuries are an unpredictable but often difference-making variable. Experienced and/or promising depth behind a first-team front five can be crucial.

* = new starter. + = switching position. Number of returning starters is in parentheses.

1. Houston Texans (5)

LT: Duane Brown
LG: Wade Smith
C: Chris Myers
RG: Mike Brisiel
RT: Eric Winston

Houston returns all five starters from a line that paved the way for NFL rushing leader Arian Foster and allowed just two sacks a game. Gary Kubiak is keeping competition alive by listing undrafted rookie Darius Morris at first-team right guard, a position that should be won back by Brisiel before the season. This unit has zero Pro Bowls to its credit, but executes zone blocking to perfection and holds its own in protection. Top reserves are athletic swing tackle Rashad Butler (four starts last season), G/C Antoine Caldwell (10 career starts), and G Kasey Studdard (14 starts in 2009).

Biggest beneficiary: Arian Foster. Zone blocks are his best friend.


2. New England Patriots (5)
LT: Matt Light
LG: Logan Mankins
C: Dan Koppen
RG: Dan Connolly
RT: Sebastian Vollmer

Elite starters and elite depth. The Pats are so talent-laden in the front five that No. 17 pick Nate Solder will ride the bench as a rookie. Mankins is the best guard in the game, and Vollmer may possess more impressive athleticism than any right tackle in the NFL. Koppen is a stalwart, having missed one start since the 2005 season. Among backups, swing tackle Mark LeVoir, C Ryan Wendell, and G/C Chris Morris have started before. Fifth-round pick Marcus Cannon, a first-round talent, could be a real difference maker if he cracks the lineup after beating lymphoma.

Biggest beneficiary: Tom Brady. Pats are loaded with pass blockers.


3. Carolina Panthers (4)
LT: Jordan Gross
LG: Travelle Wharton
C: Ryan Kalil
RG: Mackenzy Bernadeau
RT: *Jeff Otah

Don't laugh. The Panthers went 2-14 last season, but they'll be much better this year and line play has a lot to do with it. Gross and Kalil return from Pro Bowl berths, and Wharton is an elite left guard in protection when healthy. A mammoth run blocker, Otah is the big addition after a season lost to injury. Bernadeau, the question mark, was shuttled between guard spots last year and briefly lost his job, but the Panthers could switch to mauling, 25-year-old "backup" Geoff Schwartz (19 career starts) and probably upgrade the position. G/T Garry Williams (11 starts) is another experienced reserve. Seventh-round value Lee Ziemba fits Carolina's nasty mentality up front.

Biggest beneficiary: DeAngelo Williams. Think along the lines of 2009.


4. New York Jets (4)
LT: D'Brickashaw Ferguson
LG: Matt Slauson
C: Nick Mangold
RG: Brandon Moore
RT: *Wayne Hunter

The Jets have fielded the best line in football over the past two seasons. The reason they're not in the top spot this year is the retirement of Damien Woody and downgrade to Hunter, who's been in the league eight years but made just four career starts. Hunter was the line's weak link down the stretch last season, so the Jets may have to turn to enigmatic former second-round pick Vladimir Ducasse sooner than they'd prefer. Right tackle is a critical position for such a run-heavy team. The rest of the front five is elite, but New York's depth is near-nonexistent. Behind the first string, only Undertaker-lookalike Robert Turner has ever started a game. And Turner's done it just twice.

Biggest beneficiary: Santonio Holmes. More emphasis on pass game.


5. Green Bay Packers (4)
LT: Chad Clifton
LG: *Derek Sherrod
C: Scott Wells
RG: Josh Sitton
RT: Bryan Bulaga

The lone starter lost is Daryn Colledge, who was overpaid by Arizona. Green Bay has penciled in first-round pick Sherrod as Colledge's replacement, though the college left tackle is experiencing growing pains early in camp. Still, this is one of the NFL's most talented lines on the right side with Sitton as an All-Pro caliber strong-side guard and Bulaga likely to make strides in his second year. The top subs include potential left tackle of the future Marshall Newhouse and versatile T.J. Lang.

Biggest beneficiary: Jermichael Finley. He'll do very little blocking.
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Default Re: RotoWorld says we have the #1 O-line

I have a hard time to believe that... Let`s not forget that we had one of the worst lines in 2009, and a lot of people begged for an OL men to be drafted in the 1st or 2nd round in the 2010 draft. Sure, our O-Line is good, but no way it is that good. Actually the O-Line is kinda my biggest concern for the upcoming season on offense...
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Have a hard time rankin our bunch ahead of the Pats. Brady always seems like he has enough time to retie his shoelaces before he has to throw......
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I have a hard time to believe that... Let`s not forget that we had one of the worst lines in 2009, and a lot of people begged for an OL men to be drafted in the 1st or 2nd round in the 2010 draft. Sure, our O-Line is good, but no way it is that good. Actually the O-Line is kinda my biggest concern for the upcoming season on offense...
I don't know about that, since 2009 was Schaub's big year.
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Have a hard time rankin our bunch ahead of the Pats. Brady always seems like he has enough time to retie his shoelaces before he has to throw......
Rushing is not a big part of NE's gameplan, and Tom Brady is like an amoeba in the pocket, carefully sliding to one side or another to avoid gigantic men flying at him.

I'd honestly rather have the Jets or Dolphins O-line over the Pats if all other moving parts were equal.
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Default Re: RotoWorld says we have the #1 O-line

I don't know about #1, BUT even being in the discussion is pretty cool.

Let's hope, someday SOON, that our secondary can make that same meteoric rise.
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Not bad for a bunch of softies.
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I don't know about that, since 2009 was Schaub's big year.
Yep, rushing was down, but they led the league in passing yards, and despite attempting the 4th most passes in the NFL that year, they only gave up 25 sacks - putting them at 5th best in that category. Maybe not stellar, but not exactly horrible either.
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Default Re: RotoWorld says we have the #1 O-line

I think just like D. Carr was shell-shocked, our fans are shell-shocked from the roller coster of expectation vs. resultant-sucktitude and are thus afraid to be number 1.

I am taking a stand and agreeing that we have the #1 OL until proven wrong. Afterall, this article says so and it's on the internet.
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Have a hard time rankin our bunch ahead of the Pats. Brady always seems like he has enough time to retie his shoelaces before he has to throw......
You're only thinking pass protection. This eval is about the total O-line package. The Pats' O-line, while it does stand out above the rest in pass protection, they can't produce near the quality running attack that ours can. I can totally see ours grading out better in the run game.
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The simple fact that we're ever being amongst this discussion is awsome when you consider how bad it was for so many years. This is just nice to read and hear us being ranked in something like this.
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The simple fact that we're ever being amongst this discussion is awsome when you consider how bad it was for so many years. This is just nice to read and hear us being ranked in something like this.
I just hope its not a sign like years past.....
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I have a hard time to believe that... Let`s not forget that we had one of the worst lines in 2009, and a lot of people begged for an OL men to be drafted in the 1st or 2nd round in the 2010 draft. Sure, our O-Line is good, but no way it is that good. Actually the O-Line is kinda my biggest concern for the upcoming season on offense...
Are you getting the OL and DL mixed up? The only real noise I remember about our OL was Studdard being the backup LG and Myers at C. There was much more moaning and groaning about our DL.
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Are you getting the OL and DL mixed up? The only real noise I remember about our OL was Studdard being the backup LG and Myers at C. There was much more moaning and groaning about our DL.
There was always moaning about our DL... but most people didn`t want to draft a DT high and prefered to sign one via FA. On the contrary lots of people wanted us to sign a G like Iupati or a C like that guy that went to Pittsburgh with the 1st round pick. Our running game was really bad, as were all 3d and short situations. Most people were hating on Myers, the Wade Smith signing was considered average at best. The departure of the injury ridden Pitts and the inconsistent play of our line as a whole was a major concern.
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Have a hard time rankin our bunch ahead of the Pats. Brady always seems like he has enough time to retie his shoelaces before he has to throw......
The left side for NE is really damn good .... but Brady's savy in the pocket has a lot to do with their OL overall.

Its nice to see the Texans OL getting some recognition. They had a real solid season both running and passing. Are they as good as advertised here ? Who knows ..... But its a far cry from watching comercials with HHWNBM lining up with no OL at all.
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Heard an intersting stat earlier while watching the Browns & Packers ....

The Texans OL had the fewest holding penalties in the league last year with 12. The next fewest was the Packers with 16. Thats pretty impressive.
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Heard an intersting stat earlier while watching the Browns & Packers ....

The Texans OL had the fewest holding penalties in the league last year with 12. The next fewest was the Packers with 16. Thats pretty impressive.
That is the kind of thing that helps keep drives alive. After turnover ratio, the lack of penalties is likely the next major state that dictates and translates into wins other than a lack of injuries which kind of trumps everything.
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I would disagree

Winston is like a tackle on roller skates he gets beat alot

Brown was suspend for 4 games last year and so far hes been subpar at best at pass protection agansit the elitle teams

Chris myers ..... No commet

Wade smith is one of fhe only line i think is acctually good and hes a free agent player

And has far has the other guard it seems like its musical chairs on the right side
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Heard an intersting stat earlier while watching the Browns & Packers ....

The Texans OL had the fewest holding penalties in the league last year with 12. The next fewest was the Packers with 16. Thats pretty impressive.
I couldn't find that game. NFLnetwork replayed the Ravens/Eagles game on Dish Network.
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I would disagree

Winston is like a tackle on roller skates he gets beat alot

Brown was suspend for 4 games last year and so far hes been subpar at best at pass protection agansit the elitle teams

Chris myers ..... No commet

Wade smith is one of fhe only line i think is acctually good and hes a free agent player

And has far has the other guard it seems like its musical chairs on the right side
The key to an O-line isn't nesisarily each guys skills, but rather how well they work together. That usually takes 3-4 years to become effective. That I think is what we are seeing. They are working well together and the sum of the parts are greater than the individual ones.
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