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Old 04-22-2005   #1
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Default Name a better nickel/dime secondary in the NFL

With the addition of Buchanan, we now have a pretty good secondary, especially in nickel and dime situations. Maybe the best in the league.
Can anyone name a team that has a better secondary in nickel and dime sets than the Texans?

Here's the way ours should look(I think...):

nickel package;
Glenn, Robinson, Buchanon, Simmons (SS), Coleman (FS)

Dime Package;
Glenn, Robinson, Buchanon, Faggins, Simmons (SS), Coleman (FS)

I especially think Buchanan's ball hawking and yes, risk taking, is valuable in the dime set when he is free to take chances because he will have help behind him most of the time. He has the potential to make a lot of picks, I think... heck, so do AG, and DRob...
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Minnesota has one that on paper is at least up to par with ours.
Winfield, Smoot, Brian Williams as the CBs.
D. Sharper, Corey Chavous as the safeties. With Willie Offord a starter last year as the primary backup. Plus whichever players they might pick up in the draft.
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Rolle, McAlister, Reed, Primetime, Demps is a start...
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Even though you cannot name half of them, I guess you have to include the Patriots.
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Even though you cannot name half of them, I guess you have to include the Patriots.
Not really, not with everyone identifying CB as the Patriots only real need until the Bruschi situation sprung up.
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With the addition of Buchanan, we now have a pretty good secondary, especially in nickel and dime situations. Maybe the best in the league.
Can anyone name a team that has a better secondary in nickel and dime sets than the Texans?
The Ravens probably have the better overall secondary. I'd put the Texans right after that. Homerish? Perhaps, however one stat I've been harping all off-season: 2004 Texans Pass Rush (as measured by sacks) - dead last, #32 in the NFL. Now we all know that no secondary can look good with no pass rush ... yet we were 5th in the NFL in Interceptions. Imagine what that would look like if we were merely average in pass rush ... or if we had the Ravens' pass rush?

If you're asking if we have the best dimeback in the league, that could well be. Buchanon has the potential to be the best nickle.
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Seahawks:

Marcus Trufant, Andre Dyson, Bobby Taylor, Ken Hamlin, Michael Boulware

Just what I came up with
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Marcus Trufant, Andre Dyson, Bobby Taylor, Ken Hamlin, Michael Boulware

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You may want to remove Taylor's name from there since rumor is he'll be a June 1st cut...
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nickel package;
Glenn, Robinson, Buchanon, Simmons (SS), Coleman (FS)

Dime Package;
Glenn, Robinson, Buchanon, Faggins, Simmons (SS), Coleman (FS)
Glenn Earl is our starting Strong Safety last time i checked
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also be careful about the nickel, dunta might play it again this year in nickelback formations and buchanon sit in the #2 CB spot, since it gives Dunta a chance to blitz
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also be careful about the nickel, dunta might play it again this year in nickelback formations and buchanon sit in the #2 CB spot, since it gives Dunta a chance to blitz
Man I just had flashbacks to last season, but that is more than likely why we brought in Buchanon IMO, to have a solid #2 CB to put next to Glenn so we can blitz DRob more, he was an animal last season when he blitzed. I hope we see much more of it this season...
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Glenn Earl is our starting Strong Safety last time i checked
I read a post recently that said simmons would play ss in nickel/dime sets...

not sure if thats the way it will be, but that's what I read...
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I read a post recently that said simmons would play ss in nickel/dime sets...

not sure if thats the way it will be, but that's what I read...
Last year Earl would come out and Simmons would go in for many nickel/dime sets. That doesn't mean it will necessarily happen this year. Remember Earl got put in much earlier than the Texans expected him to last year. At this point no one knows who it would be.
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With the addition of Buchanan, we now have a pretty good secondary, especially in nickel and dime situations. Maybe the best in the league.
Can anyone name a team that has a better secondary in nickel and dime sets than the Texans?

Here's the way ours should look(I think...):

nickel package;
Glenn, Robinson, Buchanon, Simmons (SS), Coleman (FS)

Dime Package;
Glenn, Robinson, Buchanon, Faggins, Simmons (SS), Coleman (FS)

I especially think Buchanan's ball hawking and yes, risk taking, is valuable in the dime set when he is free to take chances because he will have help behind him most of the time. He has the potential to make a lot of picks, I think... heck, so do AG, and DRob...

Now if the Texans can have a good draft on the DL. These guys will really shine!
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How about the PATS Secondary? They shut down Colt`s Manning in Playoffs. They even used a WR in the nickle! Also Philly`s Secondary?
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How about the PATS Secondary? They shut down Colt`s Manning in Playoffs. They even used a WR in the nickle! Also Philly`s Secondary?
Scheme, not players for the pats.

And he makes a great point about the eagles, Brown, Sheppard, Dawkins, Lewis, Ware, Hood make up a great secondary
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