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Old 08-07-2011   #61
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Look at the 20+ column.

17 career receptions by JJ that were between 20 and 40 yards in length vs. only 8 by DA in the same length of reception. And that's with JJ having one less season than DA here (JJ has four seasons vs. DA's five).

That's DA with over half as many 20+ receptions as JJ.

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Look at the 40+ column.

JJ has 5 career 40+ receptions compared to DA's 1 40+ reception.

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Analysis 1: JJ is stretching the field BIG TIME. The stat comparison for that category is brutally in favor of JJ as giving your team "more" bang for the bucks.

Analysis 2: Look at FIRST DOWNS. JJ has 61 career first downs vs. DA's 50.

Conclusion:

Jacoby has such HUGE production when he DOES catch the ball, that his failures are magnified because we all want to see him become consistent like Andre Johnson. It's a greed thang. We all know he's a freak on the field, but we slap our foreheads when he doesn't come through on something.

For that, he gets labeled as being "coddled" or not being worth the hassle.

No other player on this team do you, nor Kubiak or any other Texans employee in the operations side, want to see go somewhere else and finally "get it" than Jacoby Jones.

That would be, IMO, one of the worst cuts in team history. It would be absurdly awful. I think he has this year and maybe 1 or 2 more in him, and after that (according to what he does THIS year) it's up to Texans brass to decide if he's still growing or he has peaked and is just a flash every now and then.

In addition, if JJ blows up huge this year...he and his agent might make the decision FOR the Texans if they press for a new deal for big big bucks. I don't think we'd do it, frankly, because of the talent that Kubiak has been able to acquire in draft and UDFA route each year.

Call me crazy, but Tolliver and Jean seem to be pressing HARD like no other guy has before (for where they came from and what's ahead of them on the roster). JJ could become very expendable if Kubiak is smart enough to develop Tolliver and Jean. Even Townsel (sp?) seems like he's got potential.

I don't see how Kubiak can even contemplate trying to sneak Tolliver and/or Jean onto the Practice Squad. To me, unless they have an atrocious preseason, those two guys become a part of the roster. Not sure how that affects roster limits and/or depth chart in other positions, though.
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Lane college.....

We knew he was going to take some time to develop when we drafted him.
Is the guy a PROFESSIONAL or not? I could care less about a player's history once our team pays him to be a pro.

Take some time? Season 4 should be big for him in that case.

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3 years, $10.5 million. Just less than what Leach got from the Ravens. Essentially, the Texans picked Jacoby over Vonta.
Yep. It will be interesting to see how that works out for us and the Ravens.

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NO way David Anderson can be as dynamic and a high impact player that Jacoby can and often is.
In the words of a great Texans fan: "And I'll wager David Anderson has MORE game in his pinky than any pathetic nay-sayer on these boards, so with a grain of salt, I take little value from opinions that the Texans shouldn't continue to allow David Anderson to mature into greatness."

If you're not as a talented as a pro ball player you can't have an opinion? I guess we need to shut down the forums and sports talk radio by your logic.

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In the words of a great Texans fan: "And I'll wager David Anderson has MORE game in his pinky than any pathetic nay-sayer on these boards, so with a grain of salt, I take little value from opinions that the Texans shouldn't continue to allow David Anderson to mature into greatness."

If you're not as a talented as a pro ball player you can't have an opinion? I guess we need to shut down the forums and sports talk radio by your logic.


I agree. And I never layed claim that David Anderson was coddled; should be allowed to step his ass to another team". But to see someone say that about JJ was a bit over the top. He's a huge talent. Enough that they elected to keep him. Grain of salt didn't imply the opinion can't be had, so no need to twist my logic, but simply translated meant I view it with an attitude of skepticism.
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I agree. And I never layed claim that David Anderson was coddled; should be allowed to step his ass to another team". But to see someone say that about JJ was a bit over the top. He's a huge talent. Enough that they elected to keep him. Grain of salt didn't imply the opinion can't be had, so no need to twist my logic, but simply translated meant I view it with an attitude of skepticism.
I understand. Good point. While JJ makes me nervous, I'm hopeful that this season he proves the Texans FO were right in keeping him. This team needs every player to give everything they have on every play, and in that regard, I'm not concerned about JJ at all. Dude is definitely a ball of energy that wants to succeed.
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This is SOS.

Same thing that they said about JJ last yr.

Dont want to hear about it. I want to see it on Sundays.
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Seriously?

David Anderson string dance
(and for the record, you didn't stipulate dance well)
You mean the string dance he did in 2008? That was the last season
DA had a SINGLE TOUCHDOWN for the Texans. Jacoby has been
finding the endzone quite a bit for this teams in more ways than one.

Keeping Jacoby Jones over DA? No-brainer.
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<----is all Im gonna say about my kids pal.

Go get em Jacoby...Jace is rootin for ya.
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