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Old 08-05-2011   #1
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Found this to be interesting especially the first line.


There must have been two or three times over the years when the Texans toyed with the idea of cutting Jacoby Jones.


"When he was young, he frustrated me," Gary Kubiak said. "To see how gifted he was and to know that if I could get him to buy in to what it is to be a pro ..."

The coach points to a chair in his office.

"We all kind of battled him for a couple of years," he said. "We've had some rough talks in this office, he and I. I left him at home when we went to Jacksonville one year."

So why didn't you cut him?

"When you draft players, your job as a coach is to develop (them)," Kubiak said. "When you get somebody who has all that talent but you're battling other things that are keeping him from being as good as he can be, you've got to figure out how to go and fix it. If it's off the field, on the field, whatever. He has responded to the battle."

Some of us figured Kubiak would be happy to show Jones the door and go sign another wide receiver this offseason. Yes, Jones was coming off his best season, when he caught 51 balls and played particularly well while Andre Johnson was injured.

But he dropped some balls and didn't always seem to take the whole thing real seriously. How much could the Texans trust Jones?

"He's still got some inconsistent things about him that he's got to correct, but I think he's immensely talented and I think he can help us," Texans general manager Rick Smith said. "I think (last season) was a product of his personal maturation process."

Far from shopping for another wideout, Kubiak and Smith put re-signing Jones near the top of their to-do list. Kubiak said the Texans had invested so much in helping him become a productive NFL player that the last thing he wanted to do was watch him go someplace else and do great things.

"He's come a long damn way," Kubiak said.
Track wasn't his dream

Indeed, Jones has come a long damn way. He grew up in New Orleans' Ninth Ward, raised by his mom and great-grandmothers.

He was a not-so-strapping 5-7 and 160 pounds soaking wet when he graduated from high school and accepted a track scholarship to Southeastern University.

But track didn't float Jones' boat, so he transferred to Lane College and walked on to the football team. That's about the time something crazy happened. He began to grow. And grow.

He stood 6-2 by the time he left Lane, and when the Texans took him in the third round of the 2007 draft, he was on the verge of an improbable dream.

"When I was little, I would tell people, 'I'm going to the League,' " Jones said. "They were like, 'Yeah, whatever. What league?' "

The thing is, he still didn't really know the game. At least he didn't know the game the way a kid who'd played all his life would have known it.

Jones had gone out for football in high school, but he didn't play much until his senior season. Back then, he was a track guy wasting everybody's time on a football field. When he got to the Texans, he was a happy-go-lucky kid who and let's be kind about this - didn't take things as seriously as he should have.

"I was like a chicken with my head cut off at times," he said.
'Flashes of excellence'

Even when Kubiak would be frustrated, he kept looking at the size and speed, and he hoped there would be a time when Jones either figured things out or ended up looking for work in the real world.

Jones was lucky to have so many role models around him during his summers in Houston. There were Andre Johnson, Kevin Walter and, for a time, Keenan McCardell.

"I learned so much from those guys," Jones said. "I didn't really know the game, and there were times I didn't know the things I was supposed to do. They were great to me. Coach Kubiak treated me like one of his own, and I appreciate him for that. He helped me become a man on the field and off. He told me I had guys around me I could learn from, and I took it to heart. Toward the end of the season, the light went off in my head."

The Texans saw him as a special-teams guy who got a few snaps at wide receiver for a year or two. But the more playing time Jones got, the more he showed he could contribute at wide receiver, especially in three starts at the end of last season when he caught 17 balls for 235 yards.

"He had flashes of excellence," quarterback Matt Schaub said, "and that's what we expect of him. He has really matured a lot, and he needs to take that next step. We really expect him to. We think he'll take off. The more he's out there, the more comfortable he gets."

Jones smiles when asked about this. He has come so far since high school, yet he seems to be about the only person who hasn't been surprised.

"I've had a lot of guys help me," he said.

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He was the one motivating Arian when he was benched in the Raiders game last year. If I remember correctly he told him to keep his head up, root on Ward and Slaton, dont take it personally and when he did get in there make a big play and all will be forgiven.

Arian busted that 79 yard TD in his first play in the game.
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Great story! My concern is that there have been many talented receivers that just couldn't ever make it because they couldn't figure out how to hang onto a ball consistently or find the right routes. He's on the team this year. So I'll route for him to prove the naysayers wrong. Meanwhile, I may have to intuitively wince every time I see the ball approaching his hands.
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Great story! My concern is that there have been many talented receivers that just couldn't ever make it because they couldn't figure out how to hang onto a ball consistently or find the right routes. He's on the team this year. So I'll route for him to prove the naysayers wrong. Meanwhile, I may have to intuitively wince every time I see the ball approaching his hands.
he needs to work on his hands and route running and i think he will be a very good WR. I saw a lot from him last season i haven't ever seen from him up until the. i saw some hustle, some intensity, passion. He is def a play maker.
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Wow, I had forgotten that Keenan McCardell had ever signed with the Texans.
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Ah, yes, the obligatory "Jacoby is poised to take the next step" article. Happens EVERY season with this team: Jacoby is about to break out, here comes Jacoby, Jacoby had maturity issues in the past, but is ready to become a power player, blah, blah, blah.

What a coddled football player. We should have allowed him to "step" his ass onto another team. This kid needs humbling and a fresh start.
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Wow, I had forgotten that Keenan McCardell had ever signed with the Texans.
I mentioned him in the list of guys I was excited about and thought would do better.

But in regard to the article... is this from this year, or last year, or the year before? Every year, JJ has "gotten" it but apparently, it's never stuck because he's had to get it again the next year.

I would have been totally fine letting him walk and keeping DA if we needed an experienced guy in our offense to mix with the UDFA's that we picked up. I would have been fine with:

AJ, KW, DA, DD, Toliver, Maehl, Jean.

That's a nice little receiver group right there. And if DA didn't cut it, fine.
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Great story! My concern is that there have been many talented receivers that just couldn't ever make it because they couldn't figure out how to hang onto a ball consistently or find the right routes. He's on the team this year. So I'll route for him to prove the naysayers wrong. Meanwhile, I may have to intuitively wince every time I see the ball approaching his hands.

I recall Sydney Rice having this same issue and one offseason, Sydney spent working on catching. Catching 100 balls while laying prone then catching another 100 balls behind him, while sitting, then... all kinds of crazy scenarios. The result was a BREAKOUT season for him.

I, like you and probably most Texans fans, hope he can overcome it. Certainly, Jacoby has to know better than anyone else that's his biggest vise. Seems reasonable to expect that improvement there is something he'd have invested in heavily if you believe any rumors of his "maturation"

I've been waiting him for 2 years to give me a reason to buy a #12 jersey. Securing the football has been the one and ONLY reason I'm still waiting.
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Wow, I had forgotten that Keenan McCardell had ever signed with the Texans.
Never made it out of camp. Played for the Skins that year and then hung his cleats up. He now coaches WRs for the Skins.
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Nobody saw improvment last season ? I thought he stepped in for AJ well last season and made some big plays for us.
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This cat has DeSean Jackson talent, but Mike Williams desire.
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This cat has DeSean Jackson talent, but Mike Williams desire.
I think he's a bit short of Jackson on talent, and has a bit more desire than Williams.
Yeah, he's a tweener...
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Ah, yes, the obligatory "Jacoby is poised to take the next step" article. Happens EVERY season with this team: Jacoby is about to break out, here comes Jacoby, Jacoby had maturity issues in the past, but is ready to become a power player, blah, blah, blah.

What a coddled football player. We should have allowed him to "step" his ass onto another team. This kid needs humbling and a fresh start.
My thoughts exactly!
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Ah, yes, the obligatory "Jacoby is poised to take the next step" article. Happens EVERY season with this team: Jacoby is about to break out, here comes Jacoby, Jacoby had maturity issues in the past, but is ready to become a power player, blah, blah, blah.

What a coddled football player. We should have allowed him to "step" his ass onto another team. This kid needs humbling and a fresh start.
Is 51 receptions a goodly amount for a #3 WR in this offense?
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I think all of Jacoby's immature days are behind him.... Some of us take longer to mature than others....just part of being human.

A lot of peple did not want him to come back. I, for one, am glad he is. I think he can make plays...he has in the past. He just needs to be on the field more and be more consistent.

I hope he has a big year this year too.....
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Mike Williams came back and had a pretty darn good year with the Seahawks.

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Ah, yes, the obligatory "Jacoby is poised to take the next step" article. Happens EVERY season with this team: Jacoby is about to break out, here comes Jacoby, Jacoby had maturity issues in the past, but is ready to become a power player, blah, blah, blah.

What a coddled football player. We should have allowed him to "step" his ass onto another team. This kid needs humbling and a fresh start.
This.

I find it hard to be patient with someone that has taken over three years to pull their head out of their ass to be a professional.

If anything, it should be more of IT'S ABOUT DAMN TIME!
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Instead of coddling him and bringing him along slowly and waiting for him to mature on his own why not put a foot in his ass. I read that article and it tells me that Kubiak is very soft on his players. Nothing makes you grow up faster than a swift kick in the ass and facing the possibility of your next job application being at McDonalds. Don't wait for him to mature on his own. Where's the motivation for him to mature if he still has an NFL job. His mom should have a "come to Jesus" meeting with him so that he'll grow up and she wouldn't have to buy a ticket to the game.
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Instead of coddling him and bringing him along slowly and waiting for him to mature on his own why not put a foot in his ass. I read that article and it tells me that Kubiak is very soft on his players. Nothing makes you grow up faster than a swift kick in the ass and facing the possibility of your next job application being at McDonalds. Don't wait for him to mature on his own. Where's the motivation for him to mature if he still has an NFL job. His mom should have a "come to Jesus" meeting with him so that he'll grow up and she wouldn't have to buy a ticket to the game.
Both the player & coach indicate Kubiak has not coddled JJ.
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