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Old 08-01-2011   #21
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Well, you know what they say.

Those that can coach..... those that can't are like Michael Lombardi.

Who gives a shit what he says.

I actually saw the clip myself.... & I thought... he's got a point.

The worst part of the whole thing, is that the Texans keep saying, "But we are physical... we are!"

I don't hear the Ravens trying to convince people they're a physical football team.

They (Eric Winston included) need to just shut up & win. Then they can say, "no, we aren't "really" physical, but we just whupped your ass."
lol!!! Totally agree with you.
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Not exactly true. They run a system that is built on cut blocks ands is more system blocking than smash mouth. They can do well in short yardage but that doesn't mean teams think they are physical. Look at the teams that have beat them down the last 2-3 years...physical teams...and when the Texans do comeback it is chucking it 30 times in a half. So I can kind of see where he is coming from on both sides of the ball. Even Rex Ryan said that was their thought process against the Texans 2 years back.
While true, Myers is the only player that probably would not prefer to play smash mouth drive them back football. I am not a big fan of the ZBS but it has been working.

The O should be even better with OD closer to 100%, Schaub's knowledge that Foster can also catch the ball, Tate to spell the other two & hopefully either Walter or JJ to have a better year.

The lighter Dline shut me up last two years as they were able to control the run pretty well & Phillips seems confident the 3-4 he utilizes can hold the scrimmage line while LBs clog the run & "disturb" the QB. IMO, the DBs should be better if only by having another year behind them. They were very young @ most positions. Manning and JJ? Bring it on!
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Someone on here last year was talking about Lombardi's infatuation with talking trash on the Texans, and how it was not exactly unbiased analysis.

Was he ever seeking our GM job? Or was it because he was a bad GM himself or something? There was something there that made a person state that Lombardi is not being completely level.

Is he completely wrong? Maybe not. But is he completely right? No. So what is his beef with us? I mean, the guy gets noticeably angry when talking about how bad the Texans are.

He makes Herv look like Thunderkyss.
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2009 TT talk thread about how Michael Lombardi thinks the Texans need to start over
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Winning shuts up douche bags!
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You have to be tough to play in the league. What this team is missing are the true blue collar workhorse type of players that just want to be out there bleeding and knocking the piss out of people. Wade drafted 3 of them this year in Watt, Reed and Keo. We have Cushing and Barwin that are like that. We need the hard nosed Detroit and New Jersey type of guys that eat a bowl of nails every morning for breakfast. That's the defense I like. That's the kind of O-line I like.

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You have to be tough to play in the league. What this team is missing are the true blue collar workhourse type of players that just want to be out there bleeding and knocking the piss out of people. Wade drafted 3 of them this year in Watt, Reed and Keo. We have Cushing and Barwin that are like that. We need the hard nosed Detroit and New Jersey type of guys that eat a bowl of nails every morning for breakfast. That's the defense I like. That's the kind of O-line I like.
Vickers would be a nice addition.
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Keo looked awful getting his neck ran through on the goal line by Boise states rb.

Good players get ran over sometimes but man. . .not like that. Not when you are set up and see the guy coming. Maybe he underestimated the guy.

I don't know what year it was from, but hopefully he left that junk on college.
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I don't think he's really talking about toughness or being physical.
Probably the most successful franchise of the current period, the Patriots,
has never been described as a physical team but nobody criticizes them for not being so, and neither do they criticize them for being a finesse team, which is what they probably are. But they win, so everyone just calls them winners.
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Someone on the Texans organization needs to print out these quotes and make them wall paper in the Texans Facilities.
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Old 08-01-2011   #31
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Did some televangelist channel Vince Lombardi in a seance?? If not, eho gives a rats ass what this guy thinks?
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tough or soft doesn't make a difference. Wins and losses do. Nobody would say Indy is "physical" but they win games.
Right. So that makes the Texans both soft and losers.

I don't particularly care for Lombardi. I don't know if he's clued into the Texans or has even watched them play more than a handful of times the past couple of years. But, he's been nails on his evaluation of the Texans. The Texans don't compete with good teams. Under Kubiak, the Texans are 10-27 versus teams with a winning record.

Maybe other teams have won by playing a finesse style. The Colts, the Dolphins in the Marino era, The Niners with Montana and Rice. But, Joe Montana and Jerry Rice aren't walking through that door. ANd if they were, they'd still need physical players like Lott, Romanowski, And Haley on the defensive side. Don't tell me the Texans can win by playing a finesse style, because they have yet to win playing this style.

Maybe that can change this year. Maybe Wade can instill that toughness. But after watching the Texans lose their most physical player on offense, I'm beginning to believe in what Lombardi is saying. He's been right before.
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I don't think he's really talking about toughness or being physical.
Probably the most successful franchise of the current period, the Patriots,
has never been described as a physical team but nobody criticizes them for not being so, and neither do they criticize them for being a finesse team, which is what they probably are. But they win, so everyone just calls them winners.
The patriots are physical.
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They are? I think they are probably the only team in the league that can do it all on any given Sunday. Out-physical them, they'll out finesse you and win. Take away the finesse, they'll out tough you and run the ball down your throat. The Pats have the luxury of the best damn HC in the business, by far.
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Who cares what anyone thinks. Texans just need to win........
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I talked about this with texanmike today all we need is the guy who steps up. It's not normally the same guy every week, but every week it needs to be somebody other than the stars. I expect dre and schaub and foster to bring it every week on O. But we also need Jones or daniels or dickerson to step up too. That is how you win, when ur stars are having a tough time because every one expects them and gameplans for them someone needs to take the load. The big question is who will that person be every week? Or will it be anyone. On D well in the past I would say mario and ryans and cushing but who knows now .... we need the every week stars and the unexpected guy that's it we need guys they never see coming.
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While true, Myers is the only player that probably would not prefer to play smash mouth drive them back football. I am not a big fan of the ZBS but it has been working.

The O should be even better with OD closer to 100%, Schaub's knowledge that Foster can also catch the ball, Tate to spell the other two & hopefully either Walter or JJ to have a better year.

The lighter Dline shut me up last two years as they were able to control the run pretty well & Phillips seems confident the 3-4 he utilizes can hold the scrimmage line while LBs clog the run & "disturb" the QB. IMO, the DBs should be better if only by having another year behind them. They were very young @ most positions. Manning and JJ? Bring it on!
Too add to my comments I think that people like Lombardi also see "soft" as a team who doesn't bring it to other teams. Most people here, if honest, know one of the Texans biggest downfalls is not showing up every week or for a minimal amount of quarters. They showed up probably 1 game last season..2 most and usually they were getting out hit until and played until they decided to play run and shoot. JMO
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The Texans have been soft. The Texans have been slow.

These are part of our problems. I hate seeing our team manhandled and out hustled.

The offense is better, but the defense has been putrid. I hope Wade brings a needed level of toughness.

And when we need 1 yard, I want 3!
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Yeah right. Their losses stupefy me as much as they will anyone but I'm not going to make shit up about them. Winning heals all wounds I suppose but it's not like there aren't a few examples of PHYSICAL toughness, despite the lack of mental toughness. Because their techniques don't rely on brawn, power doesn't mean they aren't big, fast, stronger than an ox proffessional athletes. They lost and in obscene fashion. Soft? Nope. There were some years where it seemed like one thing went wrong and dominos would follow, those were soft teams. This team fights (literally) for every point on the board. Winners? No. Weak? Certainly not.
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Um...I think the Texans are plenty physical under Kubiak. I even had to sue them because I didn't like how we went full contact without pads sometimes.

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