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Old 04-21-2005   #21
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Hope Capers posts it on the wall. I would love to see revenge...er...aggressive play in Seattle. I believe a win is very achieveable at this point in time. I see Dyson is now a Squack too, been lots of wheeling and dealing in Nirvanaland this season.

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I hear Sharper Texan jerseys are going cheap.
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Typically, athletes have a difficult time grasping the subtle.
not only is this a gross generalization, but

1. i've never heard/thought of this as an professional athlete stereotype

and

2. i am a former athlete and part of me is offended by that statement...

just seems WAY off base
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Good riddance to a good player. MLB's are supposed to the baddest dudes on the team. Scottie Sharper, I mean Jamie Pippen, you know who I mean, was a good MLB, not one of the baddest. The Texans are definately upgrading the D this year. Look out, Indy...dare I say...sweep???? :woot
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I hear Sharper Texan jerseys are going cheap.
Boselli jerseys feel their pain.
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Boselli jerseys feel their pain.
Now THAT is funny. Hope Sharper saved one of each so he can savor the good old days when he played for us.
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I wanted to get back to a quality team that has a chance to win a championship,
This comment doesn't really strike a nerve with me...It was obvious to me when Carr (I think it was) made the comment that it's time for us to start expecting to win instead of hoping to win...I realize that a couple losing years can be harsh on you, but IMO we should have already had that attitude...I don't know if I'm off base here, but it seems like something isn't/wasn't right in the lockerroom...
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I can understand where he is coming from. Sharper came from a championship team to an expansion team, and basically had to start all over. I do not like the fact that he made those comments to the media; it is disrespectful towards our team. I feel we showed him respect by letting him go early so he could catch up with another team, he did not show us respect in return. . .I want to see him sucking wind on October 16!
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Well lets be fair guys, the Seahawks are not thaaaaat bad. Frankly Houston isn't any closer to a championship, eventhough we are on the upside.

I do agree... this is just a comment to make the hawkers feel good. I don't see this as a shot. I woudn't put this anywhere near the level of Terrell Owens vs. the Ravens.
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So basically Jamie what you are telling us is you are a follower not a leader correct? I mean, you couldn't turn this team around, so we're going to go where you can be surrounded with more talented players and win a championship the followers way, correct?

Have fun in the NFC West loser. A blind ethiopian could make plays over there in that weak division

NOTE: never had a problem w/ Sharper until this comment.

I still don't. You can't blame Sharper for our lack luster play at times. The guy played solid for us for 3 years and was a fan favorite. He probably thought he would retire a Texan and instead became a cap casualty. I'm sure he would have liked to see this building process through to the playoffs. He may still be a little bitter. It is the nfl. He'll get over it but don't turn on him for some off the cuff comments.
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i loved him when he played here, but the Sharper ERA is over now, so he needs to move on as well as us.
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Forget this guy.........I hope, NO I KNOW we are going to smoke these guys when we see them! Why do guys wait to say things after they leave! I think he is in denial about getting old.

We should remember what a unique situation this was with Sharper. He was coming off a championship with the Ravens when we plucked him from there. He never chose to be a Texan and yet he endured 2 ugly years of expansion football and a third disappointing season while in the prime of his career. I don't think that one little comment about the frustration of losing games is out of line or unforgivable....

The truth is, I believe, the team wanted to move on and get faster and more athletic at LB. I wish him well, but I expect his frustrations will continue in Seattle.
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[quote=TexFan58]Jamie Sharper made this statement to Seattle Press "I wanted to get back to a quality team that has a chance to win a championship," Sharper said. I was thinking that he was on a quality team here in Houston. [/QUOTE



I think i will put that quote on the back of my Greenwood Jersey
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We should remember what a unique situation this was with Sharper. He was coming off a championship with the Ravens when we plucked him from there. He never chose to be a Texan and yet he endured 2 ugly years of expansion football and a third disappointing season while in the prime of his career. I don't think that one little comment about the frustration of losing games is out of line or unforgivable....

The truth is, I believe, the team wanted to move on and get faster and more athletic at LB. I wish him well, but I expect his frustrations will continue in Seattle.
He just needs to remember the other 54 guys that were bustin their tails out there with him b4 he makes comments about the quality of team he plays on.
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He left a team whose window is opening to join a team whose window is closing FAST, that if its not closed already. He better pray seattle has a great season cause Holmgrem's chair was heating up last year and if they don't play up to expectations he is gone and there goes that excellant coaching staff he was talking about.
I would have agreed with that assessment earlier in the offseason, but I don't think it holds true now. With new management, we have trimmed away a lot of older, oft injured, and players with attitudes not buying into the system for young vet talent. Our defense will have a good five new starters at this point, and they will almost all be proven players with a few years of NFL experience, not like bringing in a newly drafted player and plugging them in. This defense will be vastly improved, so don't use last years D performance as an indicator of this years when 1/2 of our D will be different.

On another note, there seems to be a lot of whining and animosity on here. What do you expect him to say. When we lost Lucas this offseason, he bashed us as well. Something to the effect of wanting to go a team with a real D-line, a team who could actually generate a pass rush and give him some help so he wasn't on an island even moreso than what the position entails.

And one final thing, if you don't upgrade that horrid O-line, there won't be a win in Seattle this year for your team. While I think we have more talent on paper at this point, the draft, training camp, and then preseason, (signings and injuries) will be something to watch prior to making any bold statements about who you can beat.
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And one final thing, if you don't upgrade that horrid O-line, there won't be a win in Seattle this year for your team. While I think we have more talent on paper at this point, the draft, training camp, and then preseason, (signings and injuries) will be something to watch prior to making any bold statements about who you can beat.
While I agree in sentiment about our O-Line (God knows it needs some help), Seattle didn't exactly dominate against "good" competition last year either. Who knows, if the Texans got to play SanFran twice last year, we might've been 9-7 too. :woot

The bottom line is, it's simply not something Sharper should've said, especially when he'll be facing his former team on the schedule this season. As someone mentioned before though, professonal athletes tend to have issues with 'subtle', when pumping up themselves / new organizations.
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While I agree in sentiment about our O-Line (God knows it needs some help), Seattle didn't exactly dominate against "good" competition last year either. Who knows, if the Texans got to play SanFran twice last year, we might've been 9-7 too. :woot

The bottom line is, it's simply not something Sharper should've said, especially when he'll be facing his former team on the schedule this season. As someone mentioned before though, professonal athletes tend to have issues with 'subtle', when pumping up themselves / new organizations.
I would say most players, except for the really really classy types, or older vets making their final rounds in the league, most players like to get a parting shot. Think about it from your own life, if you feel like maybe you have been wronged or want to make a point, doesn't it feel good to have the last word, especially in a public platform when you know your voice will be heard.

Do I agree with this, no.....but does it happen, of course. While I don't think Sharper should have said that, I don't thing it was all that bad and didn't strike me as being overly hostile. There has been much worse said by other players about their former teams. I need to find the entire verbatim Ken Lucas quote about the Seahawks, he flat out embarassed the Seahawks. In fact, there was speculation that his words played part in the massive D revamping this offseason. I think this Sharper thing is being blown way out of proportion, and I think it IS valid to an extent. Much like the Lucas quote was dead on about the Seahawks.

As for the Seahawks, they were decimated by injuries last year, third string guys being pushed into duty in some cases. And picking up guys pretty much off the street. Couple that with our craptastic D coordinator and there is your recipe for disaster. Yeah, they underachieved but there were some valid reasons why.
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The bottom line is, it's simply not something Sharper should've said, especially when he'll be facing his former team on the schedule this season. As someone mentioned before though, professonal athletes tend to have issues with 'subtle', when pumping up themselves / new organizations.
I totally agree with that.
And I have to agree with Chawky1 too ... what did you expect him to say?
It was pretty tame compared to what many players say when they switch teams.
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I have no bad things to say about Sharper. He was a good guy and I think we squeezed his full potential out of him, he was a overacheiver. Unfortuantely his full potential was not enough especially with how high his salary was.

Expect him to have a few average years and then fade away. Again I liked the guy and appeciate the effort he gave the Texans.
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I would have agreed with that assessment earlier in the offseason, but I don't think it holds true now. With new management, we have trimmed away a lot of older, oft injured, and players with attitudes not buying into the system for young vet talent. Our defense will have a good five new starters at this point, and they will almost all be proven players with a few years of NFL experience, not like bringing in a newly drafted player and plugging them in. This defense will be vastly improved, so don't use last years D performance as an indicator of this years when 1/2 of our D will be different.

On another note, there seems to be a lot of whining and animosity on here. What do you expect him to say. When we lost Lucas this offseason, he bashed us as well. Something to the effect of wanting to go a team with a real D-line, a team who could actually generate a pass rush and give him some help so he wasn't on an island even moreso than what the position entails.

And one final thing, if you don't upgrade that horrid O-line, there won't be a win in Seattle this year for your team. While I think we have more talent on paper at this point, the draft, training camp, and then preseason, (signings and injuries) will be something to watch prior to making any bold statements about who you can beat.
Hello again Chawky1!
Good, balanced post. Much appreciated and point of view shared, for the most part. Do you think that Holmy is really in that hot of a seat if the Hawks don't get farther post-season this year?
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