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Old 07-26-2011   #1
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Gary Kubiak Calls Vonta Leach

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HOUSTON - Houston Texans coach Gary Kubiak called free agent fullback Vonta Leach Tuesday to let him know how much he hopes they can retain his services, according to Leach's agent.

"I think it's great," said Ralph Vitolo, in an interview with FOX 26 Sports. "It shows their committment to Vonta.

"With the head coach involved, hopefully it'll make the job easier to get him signed with Houston."

Leach was named Associated Press First-Team All-Pro last season, his best year in the NFL.

Vitolo said because of that he wants his client to become the highest-paid fullback in the league.

"He deserves to be the highest paid based on the merits he accomplished last season," Vitolo said.

"We are a merits-based society."

Leach just finished a four-year contract worth about $8.2 million.

The highest paid fullback in the NFL is the Eagles' Leonard Weaver, whose contract is for three years worth $11.2 million.

Vitolo said Kubiak wasn't the only Texans offical to call him Tuesday.

So did Chris Olsen, Texans vice-president/football administation.

"We didn't talk numbers, but he reached out to me as soon as he could and I thought that was good of him," Vitolo said.
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Funny, Vonta makes no mention on his Twitter account, while you see others reminding him it's time for his "big payday."
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I may be in the minority here, but I would be a little worried if we didn't sign Vonta. That cat was a HUGE part in Foster's success last season and he is one tough & durable SOB. I don't think it's as easy as "plug in another FB and have the same results."
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I wouldn't worry too much. Casey can get the job done, and he can fill in at WR, RB, QB, and TE. Oh yeah long snapper also.
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I would love to see VL sign a $3.5 mil contract for 3 years. That's suitable for his position. If not, look out for more single back sets and an opened up offense along the lines of the Colts and sAints. Win-win for the Texans. When you're a fullback in the NFL, your head should be swollen from contact, not ego.
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I may be in the minority here, but I would be a little worried if we didn't sign Vonta. That cat was a HUGE part in Foster's success last season and he is one tough & durable SOB. I don't think it's as easy as "plug in another FB and have the same results."
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I may be in the minority here, but I would be a little worried if we didn't sign Vonta. That cat was a HUGE part in Foster's success last season and he is one tough & durable SOB. I don't think it's as easy as "plug in another FB and have the same results."
Not disagreeing, but does anyone have a breakdown of the % of plays VL was on the field for and what the average yds per play that he was on the field for comes up to? That will go a long way towards determining if we resigning him or go with Casey.
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Not disagreeing, but does anyone have a breakdown of the % of plays VL was on the field for and what the average yds per play that he was on the field for comes up to? That will go a long way towards determining if we resigning him or go with Casey.
From the stats I've seen Foster got the majority of his yards while working out of a single back set and when Leach was on the sideline and off the field, but it was by a slim margin. It's still just a stat though and doesn't take into account the down and distance where we ran Foster behind Leach. I still think we should retain Vonta, but it does show that Leach wasn't the end all be all to Foster's success last season.
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From the stats I've seen Foster got the majority of his yards while working out of a single back set and when Leach was on the sideline and off the field, but it was by a slim margin. It's still just a stat though and doesn't take into count the down and distance where we ran Foster behind Leach. I still think we should retain Vonta
I agree, but it's mostly been on an emotional level. Now that we're talking a potential Leach vs. Aso decision, screw Leach. Sign Aso. I'd rather use a player under contract.
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Maybe it's just me, but I don't know why there is all of this talk of Casey stepping up to fill Vonta's shoes.
Casey is a good guy, a good all around athlete, and is a good story, but IMO, he's a role player at best. Even then, I'd be hard pressed to say exactly what his strongest role actually is.
I like the guy, but I'm not seeing all of the starting potential that many of you are seeing. I think Casey's bottle rocket has reached it's zenith.
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Maybe it's just me, but I don't know why there is all of this talk of Casey stepping up to fill Vonta's shoes.
Casey is a good guy, a good all around athlete, and is a good story, but IMO, he's a role player at best. Even then, I'd be hard pressed to say exactly what his strongest roles actually is.
I like the guy, but I'm not seeing all of the starting potential that many of you are seeing. I think Casey's bottle rocket has reached it's zenith.
You obviously don't understand the roles that college TE's can fill in a Kubiak offense. They're like super ninja's or even better.
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You obviously don't understand the roles that college TE's can fill in a Kubiak offense. They're like super ninja's or even better.
Yes, I guess that's a limitation of a mind like mine...
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Yes, I guess that's a limitation of a mind like mine...
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lol. So did I when I first saw it. I like it, though.
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So anyone that makes a pro-bowl gets to be the highest paid at their position?

Get real Mr. Agent. VL's performance MERITS a good, decent contract. Highest paid fullback ever? No.
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I may be in the minority here, but I would be a little worried if we didn't sign Vonta. That cat was a HUGE part in Foster's success last season and he is one tough & durable SOB. I don't think it's as easy as "plug in another FB and have the same results."
Count me in on the minority, too. I think it's foolish to not sign Vonta.
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Is it possible to sign Vonta without a huge hit to our cap? I want Vonta back, but I'd prefer Asomuhdfhasdfhah, the CB.
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From the stats I've seen Foster got the majority of his yards while working out of a single back set and when Leach was on the sideline and off the field, but it was by a slim margin. It's still just a stat though and doesn't take into account the down and distance where we ran Foster behind Leach. I still think we should retain Vonta, but it does show that Leach wasn't the end all be all to Foster's success last season.
Even with Leach on the bench, single-back sets were probably successful
because of the damage Leach did to those linebackers while in the game.
He was SMASHIN' linebackers all year long.
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