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Old 06-27-2011   #1
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"As usual, quarterback Matt Schaub led the offense and inside linebacker DeMeco Ryans the defense."

"Ryans, who continues to undergo rehabilitation for his ruptured Achilles tendon that was surgically repaired in October, did some running and covering, but he's still unable to go all out."

"Cornerback Kareem Jackson, who has been working out in Florida, appeared to be in excellent shape while working with his teammates for the first time."

"Tight end James Casey has added 10 pounds of muscle to play fullback if the Texans lose Vonta Leach in free agency. Glover Quinn is making a smooth transition to safety and showed a lot of leadership skills during the workout."

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I wonder if demeco is under any kind of medical supervision.

I also want to know if the coaching staff told Casey he might be the fullback next year.
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Even if Vontae reups, I think Casey's snaps will increase. He can add another dimension, like better receiving, and running, to the position, as well as being able to run the "Wildcat" if the Texans so choose.
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Good to read! Not to turn this into another Aso thread but it sure would be super awesome to read "Texans participate in player-organized minicamp. Among those participating with the defense was free agent Nnamdi Asomugha who is in town visiting Andre Johnson and looking at houses."
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Vonta needs to be paid period.
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Vonte needs to be paid period.
I love Vonta as much as anyone, but DON'T overpay for a fullback! Pay him well, but do not overspend.
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Even if Vontae reups, I think Casey's snaps will increase. He can add another dimension, like better receiving, and running, to the position, as well as being able to run the "Wildcat" if the Texans so choose.
Disagree with the bolded. Vonta is an outstanding reciever! Granted, they dont throw to him much, but he is an outstanding reciever!!
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Ryans teaches Texans new 3-4 defense in player-run workouts
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Published: June 27, 2011 at 07:51 p.m. Updated: June 27, 2011 at 08:21 p.m. HOUSTON -- Texans middle linebacker DeMeco Ryans has assumed a pivotal dual role for his team as the NFL lockout stretches into its fourth month.

Ryans is one of the Texans' player representatives, along with right tackle Eric Winston, responsible for keeping his teammates abreast of developments in the ongoing labor dispute.

And since coaches aren't allowed to have contact with players for now, Ryans has undertaken the job of teaching new coordinator Wade Phillips' 3-4 scheme to the defense -- which ranked as one of the league's worst in 2010.


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"I'm just doing my part, man," Ryans said with a smile.

Many of his teammates have come to Houston to do the same, with 35 players participating in a voluntary practice for about 80 minutes Monday morning at Rice University.

Quarterback Matt Schaub, defensive end Mario Williams and linebacker Brian Cushing were among the starters who joined Ryans at the workout, the first of three this week. Draft picks Shiloh Keo, Brooks Reed and T.J. Yates also practiced.

Schaub led the players through a series of warm-up drills before the group split up, according to their positions. They mostly scrimmaged, without pads, for most of the last half of the practice.

"For us to be out here as a team, a group of guys choosing to be here, in the long-term will serve us good," Schaub said.

Ryans is still recovering from a ruptured Achilles' tendon that sidelined him for the last 10 games of last season. He referred to a playbook during the practice and repeated calls to ensure that the players understood.

"It's important for us to get out here and get the guys some looks at our different offensive sets and try to do our adjusting," Ryans said. "I think we are getting more comfortable with the terminology that we're using. The more reps you get, the better you get it."

But as much benefit as the team workouts provide, Schaub concedes that every NFL team will need extended training camp with coaches to properly prepare for the season.

And when that happens is still anyone's guess.

Players have been told in conference calls that there will be more negotiations this week involving NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell, NFL Players Association executive director DeMaurice Smith, owners and players.

Ryans said he's "encouraged" about what he believes are constructive meetings. But he offered no timeline for when he believed a new deal might be struck, only that he believes progress is being made toward ending the lockout that began March 12.

"It's not about getting a deal done as quickly as possible," Ryans said, "it's about getting a fair deal done. Whenever that time comes, when a fair deal is on the table, that's when it will get done. We're not in a big panic to get something done, just for the sake of getting it done."

Keo, a safety picked in the fifth round, said he's trying to put the lockout out of his mind. He's more concerned with learning the defense from Ryans and impressing his new teammates.

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"I want to be updated on it every day, but I want to keep my head out of it," Keo said. "When I come out here, I want to be focused on the drills, meeting the guys, getting to know them and performing. I'm not here to just wait for the lockout to end. I'm here to get work done early."

The Texans' defense, particularly the secondary, needs as much practice as it can get, with or without coaches. Houston ranked last in pass defense last season (268 yards per game) and produced just 13 interceptions.

Kareem Jackson, often the scapegoat for the Texans' secondary issues last season, and fellow cornerback Glover Quin were both at Monday's workout.

Quin will move to safety in Phillips' defensive alignment. He said the team practices are crucial in helping the Texans learn the system.

"You kind of have to look at a playbook and say, 'OK, I think this is what they (the coaches) kind of want us to do,' " Quin said. "But it will also help us out, because when we do go in, when they make a call, we'll kind of know exactly what we have to do. We just need to figure out the technique they want us to play in.

"But if they give us a normal call, it's not like it's a foreign language anymore," Quin said. "We've had to teach ourselves. When you teach yourself, you pick up on it, you find ways that you can understand it, and when the coaches teach it, it just makes even more sense."

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I wonder if they have some non-nfl coaches there to watch or guide a bit.


but I guess when they saying Ryans is teaching the thing.. how familiar is he with it? what happens if he is making a wrong read

are they having cameras rolling for some kind of film study?




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don't get me wrong, I am ECSTATIC that they are doing something.. just wondering out loud
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I love Vonta as much as anyone, but DON'T overpay for a fullback! Pay him well, but do not overspend.
I think overpaying a FB is a really small mistake in the general scheme of the NFL. What, you give him a million or two more than you should? Think about what Ahman Green got, or Todd Wade or even Andre' Davis.

The only thing I could see us not paying for vonta is if the salary cap is actually something we have to worry about (unlike the last 4 or 5 years). But even then, I don't think Leach is going to break us, it'll be some CB this year.
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I wonder if they have some non-nfl coaches there to watch or guide a bit.


but I guess when they saying Ryans is teaching the thing.. how familiar is he with it? what happens if he is making a wrong read

are they having cameras rolling for some kind of film study?




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dammit I need some football.
Exactly what I was thinking. When the coaches "return," it could be much harder to correct newly established wrong techniques.
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Leach is a proven pro bowler you pay him.
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I wonder if demeco is under any kind of medical supervision.
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I also want to know if the coaching staff told Casey he might be the fullback next year.
Wasn't he listed as a full-back in 2010? I'm pretty sure he was #2 on the depth chart. With signing Owen, everyone pretty happy with Dressen, Graham & Hill being on the roster I'm sure it didn't take a whole lot for Casey to figure what he's got to do to remain on the roster. He needs to get bigger period to play tight-end or full-back.
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Even if Vontae reups, I think Casey's snaps will increase. He can add another dimension, like better receiving, and running, to the position, as well as being able to run the "Wildcat" if the Texans so choose.
Remember Jameel Cook? Wasn't much of a blocking fullback. We knew that when we signed him, but he was obviously what Kubiak wanted for his offence. Unfortunately, we couldn't run block for crap. We couldn't pass block for shit. We had a QB that ran into sacks & a RB that ran over our offensive line.

Now, I like Vonta Leech & I think we don't utilize him as much as we should, either handing him the ball or tossing it to him.

But I hope the offence does go to a direction where every position on the field is a threat.
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so if a player is injured while participating in said, "player organized minicamp" would he be covered for insurance purposes by or for the team along with his own financial future?
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so if a player is injured while participating in said, "player organized minicamp" would he be covered for insurance purposes by or for the team along with his own financial future?
no!........not unless they chose to take out COBRA or private personal insurance
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