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Old 06-13-2011   #21
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Default Re: Andre recruiting Ochocinco, and Cromartie???

It'd be prerequisite that he change his name back to Johnson so we could make Johnson & Johnson jokes.

There are guys at both positions who I'd prefer (i.e. Steve Smith, Richard Marshall), but I certainly wouldn't be upset if we signed Johnson or Cromartie.
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Default Re: Andre recruiting Ochocinco, and Cromartie???

The offense is not the problem with this team, so I'm not sold on Ochocinco improving that chemistry more than he'd disrupt it.

We need good defenders if this team is going to make the playoffs. Taking up cap room with Ochocinco is not achieving that objective.
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I'd love it and think Ochocinco and Cromartie would be a blast to watch in Steel Blue and Battle Red.

Probably won't happen though with the Boy Scout Club in charge of the organization.

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How does the addition of Chad Johnson (I refuse to call that dimwit by his idiotic nickname) compare with what we got out of adding say.... Eric Moulds? Maybe he's got more left in the tank than Moulds did when he came here but it feels so similar to me that I see no reason to try it. I already know what happens when you put an older WR who's lost a step opposite Andre Johnson.
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I'd love it and thing Ochocinco and Cromartie would be a blast to watch in Steel Blue and Battle Red.

Probably won't happen though with the Boy Scout Club in charge of the organization.
Pretty much my feelings exactly.

Offense hasn't really done anything to get better and barring the progression of a player like Dorin Dickerson they might have actually regressed a bit (having not re-signed Vonta and all)...

Free Agency would be an excellent opprotunity to improve our offense and defense going into next season. And by us not having drafted any talent to make an impact on our offense I would not mind them going after a WR to add to the weaponary....
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How does the addition of Chad Johnson (I refuse to call that dimwit by his idiotic nickname) compare with what we got out of adding say.... Eric Moulds? Maybe he's got more left in the tank than Moulds did when he came here but it feels so similar to me that I see no reason to try it. I already know what happens when you put an older WR who's lost a step opposite Andre Johnson.
Carr vs Schaub is reason enough for me to believe that there would be a difference...

I think Moulds probably is a lot more productive is Mr. Mittens isnt throwing him the ball...
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I'd love it and thing Ochocinco and Cromartie would be a blast to watch in Steel Blue and Battle Red.

Probably won't happen though with the Boy Scout Club in charge of the organization.
I don't think either one of them are gay.


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I wish the Texans would do this. We haven't accomplished anything as a franchise, so why not take a flyer on Chad Johnson/Ochocinco?
I agree, why not? Chad is still a good WR and Cromartie is better than what we have...but If I had a choice to get these two guys OR just Nnamdi, i'm choosing Nnamdi.

Cromartie would come here, he'll just follow the money and Chad would be happy to get out of Cincy any ways. So it's nice to have options, hopefully the Texans do something this offseason...hopefully there will be a offseason...
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The offense is not the problem with this team, so I'm not sold on Ochocinco improving that chemistry more than he'd disrupt it.

We need good defenders if this team is going to make the playoffs. Taking up cap room with Ochocinco is not achieving that objective.
I could see doing it, but I pretty much agree with this. MUCH rather have Aso and Cromartie, if that were possible. That's the dream right now, because my goal would be to find a secondary mix that can actually shut down our passing game in practice, including the TE(s). THAT's a defense.
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I could see doing it, but I pretty much agree with this. MUCH rather have Aso and Cromartie, if that were possible. That's the dream right now, because my goal would be to find a secondary mix that can actually shut down our passing game in practice, including the TE(s). THAT's a defense.
A man can dream!....

I'd actually become blindly optimistic if the Texans could pull off both Aso and Cromartie. That addition, along with Wade's control of the defense and the players already on staff, would give me the confidence as a fan that we are going in the right direction.

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A man can dream!....

I'd actually become blindly optimistic if the Texans could pull off both Aso and Cromartie. That addition, along with Wade's control of the defense and the players already on staff, would give me the confidence as a fan that we are going in the right direction.

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He wasn't even a good #2 WR to TO this season and TO played lights out for most of the year. Chad's had one big season in his last 3 seasons. The Texans need to resign Vonte Leach as their first priority on offense to keep their running game intact and need to focus all their resources on defense as far as other players go.

The last thing they need to do is to sign a guy who wants attention so badly that he tries to ride bulls and goes on VH1 reality shows. It's a reason why Palmer hates playing with the Bengals so badly that he might retire. Chad's a big part of that.
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I'm not even a fan of a guy like Andre hanging out with these losers, let alone recruiting them.
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Does anyone remember what Cincy was like before Chad Johnson (ochocinco)? They were horrible. Ochocinco, changed the attitude there, though, when he declared a guaranteed victory over the Houston Texans (of all teams). They then changed as a team and the year after that, made the playoffs for the first time in a long time.

You can say what you want, but it has been said by all of his teammates that Ochocinco is a great teammate. All except for Palmer, but he's just butt hurt because he isn't as good as the media was making him out to be. That QB has always been overrated. If you go back and look at his INTs they are absolutely sickening, and Chad would call him out because he was getting tired of it.
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Does anyone remember what Cincy was like before Chad Johnson (ochocinco)? They were horrible. Ochocinco, changed the attitude there, though, when he declared a guaranteed victory over the Houston Texans (of all teams). They then changed as a team and the year after that, made the playoffs for the first time in a long time.

You can say what you want, but it has been said by all of his teammates that Ochocinco is a great teammate. All except for Palmer, but he's just butt hurt because he isn't as good as the media was making him out to be. That QB has always been overrated. If you go back and look at his INTs they are absolutely sickening, and Chad would call him out because he was getting tired of it.
This is like the "Is it Carr or is it the offensive line?" debate.

I hear what you're saying. I just don't think Chad really cares as much about football as other WRs do. For as much as Palmer might be mascarading as an NFL caliber QB when he's not, I think the same might be said of Chad Johnson.

It's possible that BOTH of those guys are a step behind. It doesn't have to be an either/or situation.
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I wouldn't be opposed to Ochocinco, to be honest. Of couse I will have to include the usual, "for the right price". I think Chad 85 would be coming here BECAUSE of Andre. He likes to have fun, every wideout wants to be the main focus, but if he does sign here... it's one of those situations that he KNOWS Andre is the main man but that 85 should see a lot of looks. As a #2 and him hanging out with Andre, I think we'd be just fine. I wouldn't want him as a #1 though.

This kind of goes with Cromartie. I think he's vastly overrated as a #1 CB, just as Ochocinco is at WR. We'd be looking from Cromartie to fill the #1 spot and while that would be an improvement, I don't have the feeling our defense is overwhelmingly better. If the Texans choose to go with Cromartie AND a safety like Weddle, then I'd say our secondary is much improved.
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