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Old 07-26-2011   #521
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Jamie Dukes on NFLN Total Access just said he thinks Nnamdi is headed to Houston, but then again...in the same breath he says Jerry Jones could sway him to play for the Cowboys.

After releasing Marion Barber AND Roy Williams, I don't know how Jerry could legitimately "sway" Nnamdi to Dallas. Nnamdi's been there done that, in terms of playing for a team with no offense and erratic leadership. It's been said that Nnamdi is impressed with the leadership in the Texans organization, with the city, etc. He's a thinker. So I "think" he is smart enough to know that he's going to be treated better in Houston than most other places (Dallas included).

I stated several hours ago that I now think we have a Haynesworth type deal, a silent but deadly deal, with Nnamdi. As some have speculated, the Texans cannot announce it because they can't yet. Secondly, the Texans want to play it cool and continue to show Nnamdi that the Texans are classy. Thirdly, the agent probably has not allowed a final number to be drawn up...stating that he wants his client, Nnamdi, to be free to negotiate with ANY team until the last possible moment (Good agent, if he is doing this, by the way).

The total dollar amount is probably still up in the air, and like one person pointed out: The leakage stuff about Nnamdi to Jets could just be the agent trying last-minute P.R. stuff to try and get more from Bob McNair.

Maybe this is why Bob didn't fire Kubiak. Had he hired Cowher in Kubiak's place, he was going to be on the hook for remainder of Kubiak's salary AND the new salary for Cowher in the same year. This would affect the bottom line, obviously. Instead, he retains Kubiak (for the purpose of continuing the good work on offense) and he hires Wade Phillips (for the defense) with the purpose of using Wade AND a strong draft on defense in 2011 (which we did) to set up the final play for Nnamdi.

IF this works out, then we can drop the Bob Is Cheap act (I solemnly swear to) but we also have to drop the Rick Smith Can't Recruit Big Name Players act, as well. IF this works out, then Bob McNair gets a huge bump in street cred from practically everybody. And then it becomes a deal of Gary and Wade shaping this team into a team who can play 4 quarters for 16 games all reg season long.

What do you think? I feel pretty good, to be honest. You know damn well if it was leaked that McNabb has a deal in place (a handshake deal) with the Vikings, that the Jets would have had SOMEBODY snooping around their place and tweeting that there is a handshake deal for Nnamdi. With the Texans, they're pretty good at keeping things quiet. Have been ever since Kubiak hit town. Not even McClain has anything anymore that's a scoop. Am I right?
Maybe he didn't fire Kubiak to preserve the very continuity that Nnamdi is said to covet. The most revered tems in the NFL are known for having that at the HC position. I contend that McNair knows that and wants to emulate that, and enjoy the long term success of those teams. maybe signing Aso will validate that approach.
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I bet if Cowher was here instead of Kubiak, it'd be easier to convince Aso to come here.

On the bright side though, if this season goes sour, we've made the transition so much easier for Cowher to come in to by already switching to the 3-4.
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Lucky,

Think about it.

Cowher was on TV every Sunday, grinning and posturing and playing the "I want to coach again," and "Houston has something special going on there" stuff.

He was basically asking to be hired. On TV.

And all the while, we've got Bob wringing his hands behind the scenes at the end of the reg season. Bob to Rick: "Damnit, Rick. I want some Aso. You want some Aso. And now we've got Cowher barking up our tree..."

So Rick steps in. "Sir, Kubiak is....well, he runs a good offense. Can't argue that. He tried to give Frank Bush a shot. Didn't work out. And 'yes,' Cowher could bring a new toughness here. BUT...we lose Kubiak's ability to run an offense. And then you have money problems with Cowher and Kubiak salaries. So....you say you want some Aso, right? Let's try Wade at d-coord. Meet with his old man, have some BBQ with him. And let's have Wade run the draft. Top to bottom. Run it his way. And let's get us some freaking' Aso."

I fear the only thing that can screw this up is Jerry Jones' meddling ass. If that mother bleeper gets Aso, I pray to God and Allah and Zeus and Zac Efron that a plague hits that locker room and the CDC has to step in and nuke the whole stadium. Period.

Jerry Jones is freaking me out right now. Ain't gonna' lie.
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Jamie Dukes on NFLN Total Access just said he thinks Nnamdi is headed to Houston, but then again...in the same breath he says Jerry Jones could sway him to play for the Cowboys.

After releasing Marion Barber AND Roy Williams, I don't know how Jerry could legitimately "sway" Nnamdi to Dallas. Nnamdi's been there done that, in terms of playing for a team with no offense and erratic leadership. It's been said that Nnamdi is impressed with the leadership in the Texans organization, with the city, etc. He's a thinker. So I "think" he is smart enough to know that he's going to be treated better in Houston than most other places (Dallas included).

I stated several hours ago that I now think we have a Haynesworth type deal, a silent but deadly deal, with Nnamdi. As some have speculated, the Texans cannot announce it because they can't yet. Secondly, the Texans want to play it cool and continue to show Nnamdi that the Texans are classy. Thirdly, the agent probably has not allowed a final number to be drawn up...stating that he wants his client, Nnamdi, to be free to negotiate with ANY team until the last possible moment (Good agent, if he is doing this, by the way).

The total dollar amount is probably still up in the air, and like one person pointed out: The leakage stuff about Nnamdi to Jets could just be the agent trying last-minute P.R. stuff to try and get more from Bob McNair.

Maybe this is why Bob didn't fire Kubiak. Had he hired Cowher in Kubiak's place, he was going to be on the hook for remainder of Kubiak's salary AND the new salary for Cowher in the same year. This would affect the bottom line, obviously. Instead, he retains Kubiak (for the purpose of continuing the good work on offense) and he hires Wade Phillips (for the defense) with the purpose of using Wade AND a strong draft on defense in 2011 (which we did) to set up the final play for Nnamdi.

IF this works out, then we can drop the Bob Is Cheap act (I solemnly swear to) but we also have to drop the Rick Smith Can't Recruit Big Name Players act, as well. IF this works out, then Bob McNair gets a huge bump in street cred from practically everybody. And then it becomes a deal of Gary and Wade shaping this team into a team who can play 4 quarters for 16 games all reg season long.

What do you think? I feel pretty good, to be honest. You know damn well if it was leaked that McNabb has a deal in place (a handshake deal) with the Vikings, that the Jets would have had SOMEBODY snooping around their place and tweeting that there is a handshake deal for Nnamdi. With the Texans, they're pretty good at keeping things quiet. Have been ever since Kubiak hit town. Not even McClain has anything anymore that's a scoop. Am I right?
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Jamie Dukes on NFLN Total Access just said he thinks Nnamdi is headed to Houston, but then again...in the same breath he says Jerry Jones could sway him to play for the Cowboys.

After releasing Marion Barber AND Roy Williams, I don't know how Jerry could legitimately "sway" Nnamdi to Dallas. Nnamdi's been there done that, in terms of playing for a team with no offense and erratic leadership. It's been said that Nnamdi is impressed with the leadership in the Texans organization, with the city, etc. He's a thinker. So I "think" he is smart enough to know that he's going to be treated better in Houston than most other places (Dallas included).

I stated several hours ago that I now think we have a Haynesworth type deal, a silent but deadly deal, with Nnamdi. As some have speculated, the Texans cannot announce it because they can't yet. Secondly, the Texans want to play it cool and continue to show Nnamdi that the Texans are classy. Thirdly, the agent probably has not allowed a final number to be drawn up...stating that he wants his client, Nnamdi, to be free to negotiate with ANY team until the last possible moment (Good agent, if he is doing this, by the way).

The total dollar amount is probably still up in the air, and like one person pointed out: The leakage stuff about Nnamdi to Jets could just be the agent trying last-minute P.R. stuff to try and get more from Bob McNair.

Maybe this is why Bob didn't fire Kubiak. Had he hired Cowher in Kubiak's place, he was going to be on the hook for remainder of Kubiak's salary AND the new salary for Cowher in the same year. This would affect the bottom line, obviously. Instead, he retains Kubiak (for the purpose of continuing the good work on offense) and he hires Wade Phillips (for the defense) with the purpose of using Wade AND a strong draft on defense in 2011 (which we did) to set up the final play for Nnamdi.

IF this works out, then we can drop the Bob Is Cheap act (I solemnly swear to) but we also have to drop the Rick Smith Can't Recruit Big Name Players act, as well. IF this works out, then Bob McNair gets a huge bump in street cred from practically everybody. And then it becomes a deal of Gary and Wade shaping this team into a team who can play 4 quarters for 16 games all reg season long.

What do you think? I feel pretty good, to be honest. You know damn well if it was leaked that McNabb has a deal in place (a handshake deal) with the Vikings, that the Jets would have had SOMEBODY snooping around their place and tweeting that there is a handshake deal for Nnamdi. With the Texans, they're pretty good at keeping things quiet. Have been ever since Kubiak hit town. Not even McClain has anything anymore that's a scoop. Am I right?
You're right that McClain couldn't scoop a turd with a backhoe, and that if a deal is in place, neither party would be talking about it.

I can't speculate on McNair's reasons for keeping Kubiak other than what he said publicly, which is that he likes him. I honestly believe that's the real reason, but it does help that it has saved the FO money, cap impact or not.

And I never thought I'd ever see Asomugha compared to Haynesworth, but I believe I just did.
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Lucky,

Think about it.

Cowher was on TV every Sunday, grinning and posturing and playing the "I want to coach again," and "Houston has something special going on there" stuff.

He was basically asking to be hired. On TV.

And all the while, we've got Bob wringing his hands behind the scenes at the end of the reg season. Bob to Rick: "Damnit, Rick. I want some Aso. You want some Aso. And now we've got Cowher barking up our tree..."

So Rick steps in. "Sir, Kubiak is....well, he runs a good offense. Can't argue that. He tried to give Frank Bush a shot. Didn't work out. And 'yes,' Cowher could bring a new toughness here. BUT...we lose Kubiak's ability to run an offense. And then you have money problems with Cowher and Kubiak salaries. So....you say you want some Aso, right? Let's try Wade at d-coord. Meet with his old man, have some BBQ with him. And let's have Wade run the draft. Top to bottom. Run it his way. And let's get us some freaking' Aso."

I fear the only thing that can screw this up is Jerry Jones' meddling ass. If that mother bleeper gets Aso, I pray to God and Allah and Zeus and Zac Efron that a plague hits that locker room and the CDC has to step in and nuke the whole stadium. Period.

Jerry Jones is freaking me out right now. Ain't gonna' lie.
Anyone wanna bet that the BBQ came from Earl Campbell? I like the post but I'm revolted by how you say "let's get some Aso". According to my wife, that's the wrong hole. LOL.....sorry to all the family oriented guys on here. Just making a joke, regardless of how bad.
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Jamie Dukes on NFLN Total Access just said he thinks Nnamdi is headed to Houston, but then again...in the same breath he says Jerry Jones could sway him to play for the Cowboys.

After releasing Marion Barber AND Roy Williams, I don't know how Jerry could legitimately "sway" Nnamdi to Dallas. Nnamdi's been there done that, in terms of playing for a team with no offense and erratic leadership. It's been said that Nnamdi is impressed with the leadership in the Texans organization, with the city, etc. He's a thinker. So I "think" he is smart enough to know that he's going to be treated better in Houston than most other places (Dallas included).

I stated several hours ago that I now think we have a Haynesworth type deal, a silent but deadly deal, with Nnamdi. As some have speculated, the Texans cannot announce it because they can't yet. Secondly, the Texans want to play it cool and continue to show Nnamdi that the Texans are classy. Thirdly, the agent probably has not allowed a final number to be drawn up...stating that he wants his client, Nnamdi, to be free to negotiate with ANY team until the last possible moment (Good agent, if he is doing this, by the way).

The total dollar amount is probably still up in the air, and like one person pointed out: The leakage stuff about Nnamdi to Jets could just be the agent trying last-minute P.R. stuff to try and get more from Bob McNair.

Maybe this is why Bob didn't fire Kubiak. Had he hired Cowher in Kubiak's place, he was going to be on the hook for remainder of Kubiak's salary AND the new salary for Cowher in the same year. This would affect the bottom line, obviously. Instead, he retains Kubiak (for the purpose of continuing the good work on offense) and he hires Wade Phillips (for the defense) with the purpose of using Wade AND a strong draft on defense in 2011 (which we did) to set up the final play for Nnamdi.

IF this works out, then we can drop the Bob Is Cheap act (I solemnly swear to) but we also have to drop the Rick Smith Can't Recruit Big Name Players act, as well. IF this works out, then Bob McNair gets a huge bump in street cred from practically everybody. And then it becomes a deal of Gary and Wade shaping this team into a team who can play 4 quarters for 16 games all reg season long.

What do you think? I feel pretty good, to be honest. You know damn well if it was leaked that McNabb has a deal in place (a handshake deal) with the Vikings, that the Jets would have had SOMEBODY snooping around their place and tweeting that there is a handshake deal for Nnamdi. With the Texans, they're pretty good at keeping things quiet. Have been ever since Kubiak hit town. Not even McClain has anything anymore that's a scoop. Am I right?
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On the bright side though, if this season goes sour, we've made the transition so much easier for Cowher to come in to by already switching to the 3-4.
Was going to say the same thing.

Rick Smith could say to Bob, "Look, keep Gary for his last year here. We will have Aso, and then we can get Cowher in here and really wrap this mother up for good."

Rick has no allegiances to anybody but himself, IMO. He's a GM who is on nobody's side but his own. Have been saying this for a long time. The buddy-buddy thing everybody thinks about him and Kubiak? I don't buy it. Go back to the Cedric Benson situation--Gary practically says, in response to a reporter asking about Cedric, "Yeah? Well, I don't ever know anything until Rick gets the deal done and lets me know." Now tell me: Does that sound like a HC who gets whatever he wants all the time? Not to me. It sounds like Rick is Bob's little you know what.

IF this goes down, Gary has one year (THIS year) to show he can shape this team with the right pieces. If not, Nnamdi has already been assured that Cowher will be the next coach in 2012.

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Can you name a high caliber player of Aso's level that has even been available since Smith was the GM?
Every off season there are big time players that are free agents or that become available on the open market. Whether you personally think they're as high profile as Aso is a matter of perspective. Our GM has no idea on how to land guys like that.
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(Schaub on restructuring his contract) Im open for whatever helps the team. No ones come to me in that manner. The whole cap stuff is way above my knowledge base, so Ill leave that to the guys upstairs and see what happens. Obviously we want to make our team as good as we can and if it means having to do something, Im all for it.
I just do not see a lot of fat on his contract with the numbers that have been floated around. The value may be in the gesture.
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(Schaub on restructuring his contract) “I’m open for whatever helps the team. No one’s come to me in that manner. The whole cap stuff is way above my knowledge base, so I’ll leave that to the guys upstairs and see what happens. Obviously we want to make our team as good as we can and if it means having to do something, I’m all for it.”
Yeah, and you know Schaub has been coached to say that.

He's expressing willingness, but is not indicting himself by saying he HAS had those discussions about it.

I'm telling you guys: I think Bob has been wanting that Aso so bad, for so long, that there is no other guy out there he wants more. Raging.

EDIT: Peter King, whom I do not care for much btw, has said it's the worst-kept secret that Aso is heading to Houston. I think he knows something solid on this deal. Because he's out and out saying this is done and has been for some time. But Peter King is not going to get involved as a witness in the crime of tampering. He, too, is choosing his words nicely.

The whole damn NFL OWES us this one, OK? Goodell, Tagliabue's ghost, the kid who ran out onto the field and retrieved the kickoff tee at Oilers games. They all OWE us this one. For Pete Prisco's sake, let us have some quality Aso for a change!
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I fear the only thing that can screw this up is Jerry Jones' meddling ass. If that mother bleeper gets Aso, I pray to God and Allah and Zeus and Zac Efron that a plague hits that locker room and the CDC has to step in and nuke the whole stadium. Period.

Jerry Jones is freaking me out right now. Ain't gonna' lie.
Asomugha going to Dallas would be a tragedy, but I don't see them outbidding Houston. And I don't see Nnamdi wanting anything to do with Jerry Jones.
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Yeah, and you know Schaub has been coached to say that.

He's expressing willingness, but is not indicting himself by saying he HAS had those discussions about it.

I'm telling you guys: I think Bob has been wanting that Aso so bad, for so long, that there is no other guy out there he wants more. Raging.
Im right there with ya brother!!

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Asomugha going to Dallas would be a tragedy, but I don't see them outbidding Houston. And I don't see Nnamdi wanting anything to do with Jerry Jones.
Going from the Crypt Keeper to Skeletor isnt much of a step up.
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