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Old 07-26-2011   #361
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Anyone else see Tampa bowing out as a really good sign? Drives the price down at the very least. We may just be the last team standing.
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Why San Francisco? haven't heard that rumor before.
Well they need a cornerback, they have Nate Clements but his salary is pretty huge and his play doesn't really merit the kind of money he will be making imo. Nmamdi gets to stay in the west coast in beautiful San Fran. The 49ers play in probably the weakest division in the league and they have a good shot at making a playoff run.
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You pair him with Revis and that is a sick tandem, the sickest in the league.
It would be the sickest combination in NFL history and there would never be a better combo than that.
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Rex is of the "defense wins championships" mentality. Their defense was already one of the best in the league, you add Nnamdi and I don't think anyone puts over 10 points a game on them. I could be wrong, but where are you gonna throw? It would be hard to beat 2 shut down corners.
Who's gonna cover the TE's and RB's? WCO was built to defeat this kind of D setup. Put OD and Dreesen on the field in a single back set and they can't cover everyone AND defend the run.
IMO, your best bet on D is to take away 1/2 the field and roll help to the other 1/2 and disguise your coverage as best as possible to bait the QB into throwing to the latter 1/2. That gets into 76Texan's theory of safeties being more of a factor than a CB. An exceptional safety can read the QB's eyes and take appropriate action. Of course, I may be full of it, too.
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Ha, just thought the same thing. Jets might not allow 10 points but where will they get 10 points from? : P
Their D may get their offense into fg kicking situations?
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Only thing is, if you take away the first read, such as Reggie Wayne, that gives our DL & LB's just that extra little bit of time to get to Peyton, and that could be all she wrote. Besides that it gives you the chance to scheme up a plan to handle the other 5, or however many receivers he might have, especially Dallas Clark. I like it, and devoutly hope we sign Aso.
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According to MLive.com's Tom Kowalski, free agent Nnamdi Asomugha wants to play for the Jets.

Kowalski is a Lions reporter, but he's presumably done digging on Asomugha because Detroit has so often been connected to this year's premier free agent. That digging apparently led Kowalski to believe Asomugha wants to play in New York. There have been several other indications this is the case, so it isn't a crazy notion. If Asomugha is willing to take a discount to play in the destination he covets, the marriage could very well happen
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Well they need a cornerback, they have Nate Clements but his salary is pretty huge and his play doesn't really merit the kind of money he will be making imo. Nmamdi gets to stay in the west coast in beautiful San Fran. The 49ers play in probably the weakest division in the league and they have a good shot at making a playoff run.
Interesting. Can they afford both Clements and Aso? Yes, SF is in a weak Division but for how long? St Louis is on the way up. If Arizona gets a QB and they look to get Kolb, they are they are the team to beat. Plus, Seattle won the division last time and Ol Pete has some tricks up his sleeve.

I could see the NFC West getting real tight in a year or two.
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According to MLive.com's Tom Kowalski, free agent Nnamdi Asomugha wants to play for the Jets.

Kowalski is a Lions reporter, but he's presumably done digging on Asomugha because Detroit has so often been connected to this year's premier free agent. That digging apparently led Kowalski to believe Asomugha wants to play in New York. There have been several other indications this is the case, so it isn't a crazy notion. If Asomugha is willing to take a discount to play in the destination he covets, the marriage could very well happen
http://twitter.com/#!/TomKowalski36/...29259138740224
Everyone seems to be repeating the same rumor. Question is how much of a discount is he willing to take? If its a couple of mill a year, maybe. If its like 5+ maybe not.
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I honestly don't care if we sign him or not. My biggest fear is that we miss the boat on other players because we invest too much time into chasing a pipe dream. I'd rather have a known quantity than nothing at all. There are still good players out there that can help us get going in the right direction. We could get a couple of good players for Aso's contract amount. At some point you have to fold and move on to the next hand.
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I honestly don't care if we sign him or not. My biggest fear is that we miss the boat on other players because we invest too much time into chasing a pipe dream. I'd rather have a known quantity than nothing at all. There are still good players out there that can help us get going in the right direction. We could get a couple of good players for Aso's contract amount. At some point you have to fold and move on to the next hand.
I think most of the second tier CBs are waiting on Aso to use his contract as a benchmark.
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I honestly don't care if we sign him or not. My biggest fear is that we miss the boat on other players because we invest too much time into chasing a pipe dream. I'd rather have a known quantity than nothing at all. There are still good players out there that can help us get going in the right direction. We could get a couple of good players for Aso's contract amount. At some point you have to fold and move on to the next hand.
Agree 100%. Texans must have a point, IMO tomorrow, where they say this is the best we can do. Take it or leave it. then move on to J Joseph.
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Interesting. Can they afford both Clements and Aso? Yes, SF is in a weak Division but for how long? St Louis is on the way up. If Arizona gets a QB and they look to get Kolb, they are they are the team to beat. Plus, Seattle won the division last time and Ol Pete has some tricks up his sleeve.

I could see the NFC West getting real tight in a year or two.
I think I read on espn.com last week that the 49ers may cut Clements or re-structure his contract. I'm not saying the 49ers are the favorites, but don't count them out. All those teams have potential but I think with the defense that the Niners have with Patrick Willis and Co., they should be a good enough team to make it to the playoffs.
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I can't believe people still think that the Texans were ever going to lay down the scratch to get Aso. Bob doesn't have it in him and Rick Smith has no clue how to pull off a deal and sell a player like that.

I don't know if the the Jets will get him. I sure as hell hope not, because that would be the scariest secondary I've ever seen in any era of the NFL. One thing is for sure though is that Rex Ryan knows how to sell his franchise to players around the league. He has confidence and moxy and he's been able to build more of a winning culture there in just two seasons than what Smithiak has in five. If the Jets can pull the funds together to sign this guy (I don't see how it's possible), then the Texans would be an after thought even if we paid him more because the Texans don't have anyone in this organization that can sell a winning future other than AJ or Cushing and they are just players like a thousand others in the league.

I just hope that Aso doesn't end in NY and ends up somewhere in the NFC. Smith doesn't know how to sign players like these when they have multiple suitors.
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I think I read on espn.com last week that the 49ers may cut Clements or re-structure his contract. I'm not saying the 49ers are the favorites, but don't count them out. All those teams have potential but I think with the defense that the Niners have with Patrick Willis and Co., they should be a good enough team to make it to the playoffs.
I think QB play dictates who wins that division.
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I honestly don't care if we sign him or not. My biggest fear is that we miss the boat on other players because we invest too much time into chasing a pipe dream. I'd rather have a known quantity than nothing at all. There are still good players out there that can help us get going in the right direction. We could get a couple of good players for Aso's contract amount. At some point you have to fold and move on to the next hand.
How can you get a more known quantity than Aso? What other player, at a position of desperate need, comes close to Aso? You honestly don't care? Sounds like a case of premature sour grapes to me. Is premature sour grapes redundant?
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I can't believe people still think that the Texans were ever going to lay down the scratch to get Aso. Bob doesn't have it in him and Rick Smith has no clue how to pull off a deal and sell a player like that.

I don't know if the the Jets will get him. I sure as hell hope not, because that would be the scariest secondary I've ever seen in any era of the NFL. One thing is for sure though is that Rex Ryan knows how to sell his franchise to players around the league. He has confidence and moxy and he's been able to build more of a winning culture there in just two seasons than what Smithiak has in five. If the Jets can pull the funds together to sign this guy (I don't see how it's possible), then the Texans would be an after thought even if we paid him more because the Texans don't have anyone in this organization that can sell a winning future other than AJ or Cushing and they are just players like a thousand others in the league.

I just hope that Aso doesn't end in NY and ends up somewhere in the NFC. Smith doesn't know how to sign players like these when they have multiple suitors.
Why are you typing in the past tense? Has Aso agreed to terms somewhere or eliminated the Texans from the running? You need a Happy Meal.
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Why are you typing in the past tense? Has Aso agreed to terms somewhere or eliminated the Texans from the running? You need a Happy Meal.
We don't have a competent GM that knows how to pull off a deal on a marquee player of Aso's caliber that has several suitors. It's that simple.
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How can you get a more known quantity than Aso? What other player, at a position of desperate need, comes close to Aso? You honestly don't care? Sounds like a case of premature sour grapes to me. Is premature sour grapes redundant?
Do I think he can help us? Hell yeah I do. Do I think we're one CB away from the superbowl? Nope. I think there are too many positions of need on defense to invest it all in one player. Having said that, I wouldn't be upset if we did sign him. I think that there are pros and cons to both scenarios.
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We don't have a competent GM that knows how to pull off a deal on a marquee player of Aso's caliber that has several suitors. It's that simple.
Antonio was the #1 rated DE available in FA the year we got him.

To be fair can you name any other players of Aso's caliber that have even come on the market for FA since Smith has been GM?
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