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this is not official (as of yet) however having following Terrelle past couple years & believe will come to fruition in time for the NFL Supplemental Draft (unless lockout prohibits it). Heavily recruited out of High School came down to Ohio State or Oregon (thank Jesus he never became a Duck). Dominant athlete who belongs with likes of Vince Young & Cam Newton. Someone is going to get a steep discount, no doubt because of his errors (getting caught) so I'll ask the question: what is his value to a team who needs a QB, who wants him & where will he wind up in the pecking order when all is said & done compared to Vince & Cam?

Here is is breakdown, courtesy of Ourlads Scouting Service, who sent me this player breakdown. If you like this kind of thing you probably should subscribe?
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Pryor, Terrelle Ohio State 6053 236 4.45
Three-year starter with record of 31-4. An ascending right-handed pro quarterback prospect with unique and versatile athletic ability. Possesses the
talent and skill set to contribute early in his career and provide impact play. Big, strong, and athletic enough to play a slot receiver position while he
is learning all nuances of NFL quarterback play. Caught 3 passes for 2 touchdowns in Buckeye career. In 2010 he demonstrated a command of the
offense. When passing the ball he had good arm strength and velocity to throw vertical and all NFL three level routes. Good footwork and balance in
the pocket. Keeps his feet alive. Good deep ball accuracy at 50 yards plus. He can hit a moving target in stride downfield with few adjustments. Ball
is wobbly at times. Not a perfect spiral. Holds ball up chest to shoulder high. He has developed touch on checkdowns, swing passes, and screens.
Quick set up to the throwing point when taking the snap from under center. Approximately a 60/40 ratio of spread shotgun to pro style snap under
center. Has a deliberate delivery with a quick wrist snap to get the ball out to his receivers. The nose of the ball will drop at times on short routes
causing the football to dive and fall short of the target. Improved his ability in 2010 to pre-read, sight adjust, and locate secondary receivers.
Noticeable improvement in his field vision and awareness in 2010. Appeared to read defenses better out of the shotgun than when taking snaps and
dropping back to throwing point. Better anticipation in 2010 but rarely had to throw into tight windows. His receivers were generally wide open.
Poised in the pocket. Was more confident with his protection in 2010. Keeps his eyes down the field. Has courage, doesn’t panic, and is determined
to stay in the pocket. Stands tall and steps up when he feels pressure. Spreads the ball around to wide receivers, backs, and tight ends. Throws the
complete route tree vertically and horizontally. Can make plays on the move, particularly running and passing to his left. Can buy time and extend a
play. Creates plays with his feet. Natural athleticism. Can avoid and escape the rush with suddenness. Demonstrates the ability to reset his body with
balance to make a quick and accurate throw. Dangerous when he pulls the ball down and runs to daylight. A smooth and explosive athlete with long
strides. Has the innate speed and strength to run away from defenders. Uses a straight arm to ward off tacklers. Possesses functional speed and
quickness. The Buckeyes ran a read option series out of their spread formation. Pryor’s decision making and consistency improved in 2010. Strong
enough to shake off arm tackles or pass rushers in the pocket. Not easy to tackle. Finishes his runs. Elusive in the open field. Big, strong, and durable.
Clutch ability to perform in crucial situations. Moves the team when needed, especially with the game on the line. He does have a bad habit of
carrying the ball in the one hand or out away from his body, setting up a fumble or strip opportunity. He will also throw back across his body and the
defense at times. Terrelle Pryor is an ultra competitive, playmaking, passionate, and athletic quarterback who played in a structured offensive scheme
at Ohio State. He concluded his three-year college career in 2010 with six of his top eight performances. Productive with 6177 career passing yards
(fifth at OSU), completed 16 consecutive passes in a game (second all time in the Big-10). Only six times in OSU history has a quarterback rushed
for 100 yards and passed for 200 yards or more in the same game. Pryor did it five times. He is the Ohio State all-time quarterback rushing leader
with 2164 yards (fourth on the Big-10 all-time list). Tenth in the country in 2010 in passing efficiency with 159.88 rating. Pryor had arthroscopic
surgery on his left knee in February 2010 after partially tearing his posterior cruciate ligament. He also had surgery on 1/7/11 to stabilize a ligament
in his right foot injured in the Sugar Bowl. He looked strong in the Buckeyes’ spring game in 2011 completing 13 of 18 passes for 191 yards, two
scores, and no interceptions. Pryor will need to learn and continue to improve on all the nuances and fundamentals of the pro passing game –
decision making (judgment and decisiveness), accuracy, consistency, ability to anticipate windows in coverage (throw to spots), ability to handle
adjustments, game management, react to adversity, reliability, and leadership. Most of his leadership qualities appear as a playmaker on the field.
Pryor made the comment during his junior year that he didn’t work as hard as he could have his first two years and started to believe all the hype
before the light went on in 2010. Projected to apply for Supplemental Draft this summer. MVP in 2011 Sugar Bowl, MVP in 2010 Rose Bowl. Beat
Michigan three straight years along with three Big-10 championships. USA Today High School Player of the Year in 2007, led his team to state
championships in both football and basketball at Jeannette (PA) High School. Born 6/20/89. The Cleveland Plain Dealer called the high school
recruitment of Terrelle Pryor the most publicized recruiting saga in college football history. Has red flags that need to be addressed. A boom or bust
prospect. A first/second round developmental talent.
Arkansas Game Comparison
Total yds Passing Stats Rushing Score
Terrelle Pryor 336 14/25, 221 yds, 2 TDs 15/115 won 31-26
Cam Newton 329 10/14, 140 yds, 1 TD 25/189, 3 TDs won 65-43
Pryor through the years
Passing Stats TD/INTs Rushing TD LG
2010 210/323 27
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I bet he goes for a 4th in the Supp Draft to the Redskins or Cardinals.
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Not accurate enough to be an elite pro QB.

Seems to have alot of VY sense of entitlement in him.

Rd 4-6, probably 5th
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7th, to the seahawks.

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Cam went 1st, Vince 3rd & you guys believe no team will touch him before the 4th? There is going to be at least one QB hungry team (Miami Dolphins) willing to part out a 3rd to develop a Pro-Talent like Pryor.
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Cam went 1st, Vince 3rd & you guys believe no team will touch him before the 4th? There is going to be at least one QB hungry team (Miami Dolphins) willing to part out a 3rd to develop a Pro-Talent like Pryor.
Now that I think about it, you're probably right.

But that team will be setting its self up for alot of heartache for the next 5-10 yrs.

At best Pryor will be a QB that can get you to the playoffs but choke when it counts the most. At worst he will be a petulant self absorbed man/child who cant stay out of jail and potentially destroys a franchise.

I wouldn't bet on him. But some team will. I wish them luck. Sometimes you get what you ask for. LOL
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Beerlover,

Not trying to contradict a respected scouting report, but the times that I saw him, he had a real tough time staying in the pocket.
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Beerlover,

Not trying to contradict a respected scouting report, but the times that I saw him, he had a real tough time staying in the pocket.
he will never be confused for a pocket QB, it will be a team that uses a spread or play action scheme maximizing his athleticism.

Both Ohio State (Rose Bowl 2010) with Pryor & Auburn (Tostitos BCS National Championship Game 2011) with Newton beat the same team, Oregon in large part because of difficulty in defending the leadership of a large, athletic QB.

I like to use this comparison one because a lot of people are familiar with game from a national perspective, widely viewed & direct comparable w/similar match-ups. just check out these stats from both games on the biggest stage & tell me one is so much greater than the other:
Cam Newton threw for 265 on 20-34 for 2 TD's & one INT. also rushed 22 times for a 2.9 avg. & 64 yards.
Terrelle Pryor threw for 266 on 23-37 for 2 TD's & one INT. also rushed 20 times for a 3.6 avg. & 72 yards.

It doesn't get much closer than that, its my theory anyway supported by facts. why the wide separation in draft grade is open for discussion.
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Cam went 1st, Vince 3rd & you guys believe no team will touch him before the 4th? There is going to be at least one QB hungry team (Miami Dolphins) willing to part out a 3rd to develop a Pro-Talent like Pryor.
You are right. But, Vince and Cam both won the National Championship and were ballyhooed as a result. In both cases they were considered mid level firsts until the national championship. Then their stock rose through the draft evaluation process.

Pryor reminds me of a Maurice Clarett (same school interestingly enough). Lot of talant but tons of red flag personal issues. Remember who drafted Clarett becuase he thought he was smarter than anyone else? Remember who may need a QB going forward.

My prediction: Pryor goes in the 3rd to the Redskins.
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Terrelle Pryor Hires Drew Rosenhaus as his agent -
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7...rs-nfl-outlook
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Terrelle Pryor Hires Drew Rosenhaus as his agent -
http://bleacherreport.com/articles/7...rs-nfl-outlook
Drew will get Pryor to go to in the 2nd, just like he got the Bills to draft McGahee in the 1st after that terrible knee injury
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Drew will get Pryor to go to in the 2nd, just like he got the Bills to draft McGahee in the 1st after that terrible knee injury
Rosenhause represent former Ohio State RB and teammate Beanie Wells.
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Not suprising

It's on you Terrell

Good luck, prove yourself on the field, your selfishness put you in this position.
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The NFL oughtta ban him for a year. If there is a shred of decency in . . . .....right. Nevermind.

Cheating is cheating. If he doesn't feel one single reprimand from NCAA to the NFL to anywhere.....well then cheating ISN'T cheating anymore.
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Pats in the 5th. They have another surplus of picks.
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The NFL oughtta ban him for a year. If there is a shred of decency in . . . .....right. Nevermind.

Cheating is cheating. If he doesn't feel one single reprimand from NCAA to the NFL to anywhere.....well then cheating ISN'T cheating anymore.
He is basically being banned from OSU for life. As in, the school will no longer recognize him as a former player, will never invite him back for any gameday events, and will not allow him to attend another OSU game for life. That's a pretty substantial loss, not to mention he won't finish his degree and graduate.
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He is basically being banned from OSU for life. As in, the school will no longer recognize him as a former player, will never invite him back for any gameday events, and will not allow him to attend another OSU game for life. That's a pretty substantial loss, not to mention he won't finish his degree and graduate.
I'm sure that sucks. For about 2 seconds.

Then he turns around and gets another boatload of money from someone else.
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I'm sure that sucks. For about 2 seconds.

Then he turns around and gets another boatload of money from someone else.
Exactly my soap box - who will live to fight another day? Tressel and Prior. Who will have to suffer for a few years? OSU, OSU fans, alumns, current coaches, players who aren't quitting, etc., etc., etc...
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Cam went 1st, Vince 3rd & you guys believe no team will touch him before the 4th? There is going to be at least one QB hungry team (Miami Dolphins) willing to part out a 3rd to develop a Pro-Talent like Pryor.
I don't think so in his case. He had a lot more problems than both VY and Newton. He never had the same success in college that either one of them had either.

I could be wrong though, because I thought there was no way in hell that Newton would go as the #1 pick in the draft.
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