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Old 05-25-2011   #41
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I'm still haunted by Andre's drop-kick-INT-thing in the San Diego game this past season :-/
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How much more should we really expect Jacoby to develop? His hands aren't going to get any bigger and he's entering his 5th season in the league. We didn't draft him in the 3rd round to sign him up for a 5 year plan, regardless of how small his school was.
Hand size is pretty much a non factor when your hand/eye coordination is that of a 4 year old who can barely manage a clap. In fact hand size is below pretty much every aspect of catching a ball. Hand/eye coordination, hand strength and the ability to put yourself in the best position to catch the ball properly all play way more of a role in a catch than hand size.

Jacoby #1 doesn't have the hand/eye coordination to make it as a #2, judging by his fumblitis he doesn't have the hand strength to be consistent and as far as putting yourself in position to make a catch, Jacoby position himself to catch it with his chest (which only works on long routes/bomb passes where you can legitimately get underneath the ball).
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Yeah, which is why I don't think we need to sign a big name free agent or invest a high draft pick there....but the position still needs some addressing.
Agreed

But look at the Colts when they added Wayne to Harrison and James. It made Manning and their offense lethal. They were able to win a SB with an avg defense.

With that said in next yrs draft I hope they take the BPA. If thats a LB/CB/S fine. The 2012 strength is LB's/CB's. But if Jeffery or Blackmon are there when the Texans pick they should take them. Those guys are unreal game changers.
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Walter is what he is......a slow white guy who disappears at times, and is not very reliable in the red zone.
Not really sure why you're injecting race in this as if white guys can't play the WR position. They may not be the majority by any means, but in this decade alone there have been several that have had a lot of success.

Kevin Curtis, Wes Welker, Kevin Walter two years ago, Jordan Shipley (Great rookie season), Rick Proehl, Brandon Stokely.

Those were just guys that have done stuff in this decade alone. I don't think you can discount a guy at WR just because he is white.

And for heaven's sake WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL TALKING ABOUT JACOBY JONES?? What does this guy need to stink it up here for 8 years for people to realize that he's Jerome Mathis 2.0?? I said that years ago while people were still hyping this guy. He's never going to be a consistent impact player, so lets pull the cord once and for all and stop acting like he'll ever be a good #2 WR. It aint gonna happen.
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And for heaven's sake WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL TALKING ABOUT JACOBY JONES?? What does this guy need to stink it up here for 8 years for people to realize that he's Jerome Mathis 2.0??
He's no Jerome Mathis. Mathis was a complete knucklehead, but he was a game changer (and All Pro) in at least one aspect of the game. JJ is not.
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He's no Jerome Mathis. Mathis was a complete knucklehead, but he was a game changer (and All Pro) in at least one aspect of the game. JJ is not.
Sure he isn't the knucklehead that Mathis was, but I wasn't referring to that. His skill set is exactly the same though. He's a KR with horrible hands that we keep trying to make into some stud WR just like we did with Mathis, only Mathis had way better hands when it came to catching punts and kicks. The only difference is that the previous coaching staff gave up on Mathis a lot faster mainly due to off the field issues. I disagree that Jacoby Jones isn't just as much of a game changer as Mathis was though. When Jacoby makes a play, it's usually a big one just like it was for Mathis. Just like Mathis though, neither one was ever consistent or reliable.
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And for heaven's sake WHY ARE PEOPLE STILL TALKING ABOUT JACOBY JONES?? What does this guy need to stink it up here for 8 years for people to realize that he's Jerome Mathis 2.0?? I said that years ago while people were still hyping this guy. He's never going to be a consistent impact player, so lets pull the cord once and for all and stop acting like he'll ever be a good #2 WR. It aint gonna happen.
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I'm still haunted by Andre's drop-kick-INT-thing in the San Diego game this past season :-/
Sad thing is, if Andre didn't have such good hands, he wouldn't have snatched that ball then kneed it out. If he would have just dropped it, we would have still had the ball.
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