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Old 05-09-2011   #1
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Tina Julian, a 33-year-old nurse in San Diego, says she may not be able to afford child care if National Football League owners and players can't agree how to share more than $9 billion in annual revenue.
Julian's concern stems from the child support she gets from her 2-year-old son's father, New York Jets defensive back Antonio Cromartie, who might be without a paycheck if a new labor contract isn't reached.
"The money I get from him is definitely important," Julian said, declining to divulge how much she gets monthly from Cromartie, a free agent who was paid $1.7 million last season. "Something would have to change."
Cromartie, who according to the New York Post has nine children from eight women, is among the players who may be without work because of the NFL's inability to reach a collective bargaining agreement with its union. National Basketball Association players may face a similar situation when their contract expires in two months.

NFL and NBA players are lining up to get child support and alimony payments lowered to reflect what would be reduced incomes should their leagues shut down, said attorney Howard Rudolph of Rudolph & Associates in West Palm Beach, Fla.

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Hey, the man isn't only a PLAYER, but a PLAYA'.
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What a dumb ass, but these women damn well know what they're doing also.
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I call bull**** on this. What about all of the other Millions of dads who don't have that much money and are working construction jobs to pay their bills and their child support? If they're out of work or suffer a set back do they get their payments suspended?? Does the guy that works at Burger King get his payments suspended if that Burger King gets shut down?? NFL players making the kind of money they do shouldn't have a problem making payments for like 3 years with the money they make.
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Hey Cromartie, go down to the doctor's office and get snipped for crying out loud.
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Sounds like he should have thought about that back when he was doin' all the Slingin'. JMHO, of course.
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I call bull**** on this. What about all of the other Millions of dads who don't have that much money and are working construction jobs to pay their bills and their child support? If they're out of work or suffer a set back do they get their payments suspended?? Does the guy that works at Burger King get his payments suspended if that Burger King gets shut down?? NFL players making the kind of money they do shouldn't have a problem making payments for like 3 years with the money they make.
Anyone who undergoes a major employment change can get their child support payments reduced to the appropriate percentage. And nowhere above did it say suspended. CS is roughly 20% of your gross for the first child and 5% more for each thereafter. I have no idea what someone like Cromartie would do, so don't ask me, but for your average guy with one or two kids by one woman, he'll pay roughly 20-25% (varies by state and circumstance). So if a woman getting 25% of a million bucks a year can't afford child care after going back to a "normal" payment, maybe you ought to be directing your ire at the woman who can't seem to manage her finances. Because the players on the hook for CS are going to continue paying; but at a rate appropriate for their pay.

This is why more states need to start requiring custodial parents to account for the money. As it stands now in most states, the custodial parent just gets the CHILD support money and can use it to support whatever the hell she/he wants. So if CromartieHo #3 can't afford child care suddenly, then she's either paying way too much for child care, wasting a bunch of the money elsewhere, lying, or some degree of all three.
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9 children by eight different women? What a turd.
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The only thing that would be more impressive would have been 8 children from 9 different women.
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The only thing that would be more impressive would have been 8 children from 9 different women.
Hey, I originally typed that and almost posted it that way. Then I proof read it and thought "That can't be right".
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I call bull**** on this. What about all of the other Millions of dads who don't have that much money and are working construction jobs to pay their bills and their child support? If they're out of work or suffer a set back do they get their payments suspended?? Does the guy that works at Burger King get his payments suspended if that Burger King gets shut down?? NFL players making the kind of money they do shouldn't have a problem making payments for like 3 years with the money they make.
What a *******ing loser. Seriously? There are plenty of guys *******ed by child support everyday. A friend of mine can barley have a roof over his head, but he pays and doesn't ***** about it. The man has made millions, and he is so *******ing immature with his money that he can't pay CS. I say throw him in jail.
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Three comments:

1. Get a JOB *****!

2. "That child's a baby...not a paycheck" :OutKast "Miss Jackson"

3. I find it AMAZING that guys who are smart enough to figure out the subtle complexities of every offensive/defensive scheme in the game of football aren't smart enough to figure out how to use a vuggin' CONDOM!
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The woman in the article is a nurse.
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1. Get a JOB *****!
She's got a job:

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Tina Julian, a 33-year-old nurse in San Diego...
Knowing several single moms, I know for a fact that it's not easy to work a full time job and afford the basic things like a roof, food, electricity and child care, without the financial responsibility of the kid's dad.

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"That child's a baby...not a paycheck" :OutKast "Miss Jackson"

There's a reason it's call child support and not child paycheck. The mother of the child has every right to demand financial support from the sperm donor...errr...."dad".

Even VY gives this post a
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Gotta love this argument:




I doubt this will have any sway on the owners, but meh. Might as well throw it out there and see if it gets any traction.
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Knowing several single moms, I know for a fact that it's not easy to work a full time job and afford the basic things like a roof, food, electricity and child care, without the financial responsibility of the kid's dad.

There's a reason it's call child support and not child paycheck. The mother of the child has every right to demand financial support from the sperm donor...errr...."dad".
I doubt many of the single mothers you know are receiving CS in the amount that this nurse is. If she's crying that she won't be able to afford day care once his CS is reduced to a normalized percentage, then what sort of day care is she looking at?

So yeah, she has every right to demand financial responsibility, and he has every responsibility to pay for his children. No argument whatsoever there. But as far as I can tell, the players in the article (not just Cromartie) are paying, and are contemplating having their CS normalized if they remain employed at a lower level (i.e., real jobs). In other words, they might have to start taking pay similar to what we working stiffs have to take. Consequently, she's going to have to take CS in an amount similar to the single mothers you mentioned. So where's the tragedy? Isn't this what everyone says they want anyway - players to make regular salaries?

Bottom line is the custodial parents in question need to adjust their standard of living just like the players will have to if CS is lowered. No one is saying the fathers will get out of paying CS. They'll just be paying a normalized percentage, like the rest of us.
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I doubt many of the single mothers you know are receiving CS in the amount that this nurse is. If she's crying that she won't be able to afford day care once his CS is reduced to a normalized percentage, then what sort of day care is she looking at?

So yeah, she has every right to demand financial responsibility, and he has every responsibility to pay for his children. No argument whatsoever there. But as far as I can tell, the players in the article (not just Cromartie) are paying, and are contemplating having their CS normalized if they remain employed at a lower level (i.e., real jobs). In other words, they might have to start taking pay similar to what we working stiffs have to take. Consequently, she's going to have to take CS in an amount similar to the single mothers you mentioned. So where's the tragedy? Isn't this what everyone says they want anyway - players to make regular salaries?

Bottom line is the custodial parents in question need to adjust their standard of living just like the players will have to if CS is lowered. No one is saying the fathers will get out of paying CS. They'll just be paying a normalized percentage, like the rest of us.
No argument from me. Good points all the way around. Obviously we do not have her specific details, so yeah, like she said - "Something would have to change" - which is basically supporting your perspectives.

I was responding to DH's post that seemed to imply that the mother was unemployed and using child support as a paycheck. Nothing in the article indicated either of these to be the case.
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I raised two daughters as a SINGLE parent, and as most of you on this board know, I am a NURSE! They went to private school, stayed in daycare, took dancing lessions, went on trips, competed in National competitions, wore the latest fads, NEVER went hungry, and grew up to be happy contented adults.

NO!! I did not sell myself to the highest bidder, nor did I receive one friggin dime from my ex!! I never asked anyone for a handout either. I worked my butt off to provide for my girls, and I've never been sorry!! I might not have a nice little nest egg to enjoy in my old age, BUT, I gave my girls a good life, simply because they meant more to me than money!! The best part was NEVER having to deal with their sorry ass Dad!!

SOOOOOOO!! This POS from San Diego gets no sympathy from me!
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I raised two daughters as a SINGLE parent, and as most of you on this board know, I am a NURSE! They went to private school, stayed in daycare, took dancing lessions, went on trips, competed in National competitions, wore the latest fads, NEVER went hungry, and grew up to be happy contented adults.

NO!! I did not sell myself to the highest bidder, nor did I receive one friggin dime from my ex!! I never asked anyone for a handout either. I worked my butt off to provide for my girls, and I've never been sorry!! I might not have a nice little nest egg to enjoy in my old age, BUT, I gave my girls a good life, simply because they meant more to me than money!! The best part was NEVER having to deal with their sorry ass Dad!!

SOOOOOOO!! This POS from San Diego gets no sympathy from me!
Exactly. I see all of these other athletes in these other sports where they don't make anywhere close to what NFL players make and they're providing for their families just fine on very small budgets to work with. The more and more I hear about the problems NFL players complain about financially disgusts the hell out of me and further validates the fact that they should be taking a pay cut that the owners wanted them to in this lockout situation. These guys have no distinction at all of what it's like for the common man out here who is trying to raise a family and work a normal job with an average salary and is doing it very successfully.
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Exactly. I see all of these other athletes in these other sports where they don't make anywhere close to what NFL players make and they're providing for their families just fine on very small budgets to work with. The more and more I hear about the problems NFL players complain about financially disgusts the hell out of me and further validates the fact that they should be taking a pay cut that the owners wanted them to in this lockout situation. These guys have no distinction at all of what it's like for the common man out here who is trying to raise a family and work a normal job with an average salary and is doing it very successfully.
This is sort of what I was referring to in another thread. How does this relate to the linked article in any way? You understand that if the players stop making mad jack that the mothers in these cases are going to receive even less money to raise their children, right? This isn't about the players; it's about the custodial parents worrying about CS once their sugar daddy stops making mad jack.
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