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Old 04-18-2005   #1
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Hello everyone! As we approach the draft it got me to thinking about carr and harrington (both by the way will be great QB's!) The question is who either has emerged as the better talant or who will be first to become great? In my opinion both are fairly equel at this point! Last year you guys played us tough and we escaped with a victory. I believe your team like ours is very young and has the potential of exploding this thing wide open! Good Luck with in the upcoming draft and season!! GO LIONS!!
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I honestly think it's unfair to really judge either of them at this point since Carr has been playing behind an inconsistent O-Line and Harrington's weapons haven't been able to stay healthy...2005 will either be the year that he proves that he's Detroit's franchise or he proves that he should be on the sideline holding a clipboard...I think the first scenario is more likely...All Carr needs to succed is consistent pass protection...Both have similar numbers so far, but I'll give the edge to Carr, since he has shown more leadership and has made more out of a worse scenario...That may just be my biased Texan fan opinion though ...
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Hello everyone! As we approach the draft it got me to thinking about carr and harrington (both by the way will be great QB's!) The question is who either has emerged as the better talant or who will be first to become great? In my opinion both are fairly equel at this point! Last year you guys played us tough and we escaped with a victory. I believe your team like ours is very young and has the potential of exploding this thing wide open! Good Luck with in the upcoming draft and season!! GO LIONS!!
I'm sorry to say but its really not that even. I believe Carr has done WAY better with alot less. Carr took over a brand new offense that had never played together, while Harrington had an established o-line and team. Harrington was almost cut by the Lions this year and has been rumored to have confindence problems, while Carr is the Texans franchise QB. Just the way I see it.
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I honestly think it's unfair to really judge either of them at this point since Carr has been playing behind an inconsistent O-Line and Harrington's weapons haven't been able to stay healthy...2005 will either be the year that he proves that he's Detroit's franchise or he proves that he should be on the sideline holding a clipboard...I think the first scenario is more likely...All Carr needs to succed is consistent pass protection...Both have similar numbers so far, but I'll give the edge to Carr, since he has shown more leadership and has made more out of a worse scenario...That may just be my biased Texan fan opinion though ...
Nice post. I think that's a thread killer.
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I'm sorry to say but its really not that even. I believe Carr has done WAY better with alot less. Carr took over a brand new offense that had never played together, while Harrington had an established o-line and team. Harrington was almost cut by the Lions this year and has been rumored to have confindence problems, while Carr is the Texans franchise QB. Just the way I see it.
I believe that Mariucci can turn Joey around. Right now Carr has a bit more experience and confidence, because he knows the organization backs him up.
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I don't think it's even close. Harrington is worried about his job (thought he denies caring that they brought in Garcia). Carr is more accurate...stronger arm...better decisions...and behind a WORSE O-Line. Sure, C-Rogers has been hurt, but they had a chance to take AJ, and didn't.
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Carr has better physical tools, plain and simple. I think Harrington has way better weapons in Rogers(if he can stay healthy) Williams and Jones, but he still needs to produce, which he hasnt been doing.
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I can't really say one is better than the other because both have their strengths and weaknesses. They're both young and have taken some good hits. One of them suffered an irregular heartbeat and was out for a while. The other has suffered an ankle injury, a shoulder injury, and quite a few others that I am surely unaware of. They've both bounced back from that so I have to say they have lived up to what they were drafted for.
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This topic again!!
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Now that you mention it, this was asked last year. I guess we'll be seeing this even after both of them retire.
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This topic again!!
I agree!!! Put it to rest. Harrington is not even in the same league as Carr, and Carr still needs to get better or I would say ship both of them to Europ to learn how to play at a developmental league and compete for their jobs again.
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Still too early.

Both have had obstacles blocking their paths towards success (Harrington's teammates can't stay healthy...Carr's OL can't block).
Both showed marginal improvement in their 2nd season.
Both showed very good improvement in their 3rd season.
Both have statisticaly categories that point in their favor over the other.

4th season should provide more answers.
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IMPO, I think both started out on fairly even playing fields(pun intended). The Lions aren't much morethan an expansion team. They weren't much more when they had Barry Sanders and Herman Moore. I think both have done a good job in difficult circumstances. I give Carr the edge on maturity level and decision making in the face of German Panzer battallions blitzkrieging across poland(or the line of scrimmage).
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I would think the fact that the Lions signed Garcia shows how they feel about Harrington's development. The fact that fans also chanted for Mike McMahon to replace Harrington shows their feelings towards Harrington's development. heck, you got those rumors that said Joey was going to be cut.

You look at Carr, I doubt anyone has demanded that Tony Banks or Dave Ragone replace him immediately, or that we should sign Kurt Warner or Brad Johnson to push Carr to perform better.
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I live in Michigan and in a house full of Lions fans. I'm a huge Texans fan. I'd choose Carr over Harrington any day, even if Harrington wasn't on the Lions.
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How about a HarriCarr like they had in Dumb and Dumber??? Just an intemperate thought.
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Still too early.

Both have had obstacles blocking their paths towards success (Harrington's teammates can't stay healthy...Carr's OL can't block).
Both showed marginal improvement in their 2nd season.
Both showed very good improvement in their 3rd season.
Both have statisticaly categories that point in their favor over the other.

4th season should provide more answers.
Hi, and thanks for all of the opinions and I apologize for the "repeat" thread! As far as the Lions being like an expansion team, I strongly dissagree. The lions have always been very competitive and hold a tradition that is steeped in history. As far as Joey goes, last year he had no running game untill the 2nd half of the season, CR out so basically Joey had RW And OZ! He through for over 3000 yds and I believe 21 TDS not bad with a hobbled team! As I said before when all is said and done I believe both Carr and Harrington will be pro bowl QB's! Thanks again for the imput and good luck in the upcoming draft and season!! Go Lions!!
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This completely goes to Carr, Harrington isn't even assured the starting job next year, at this point Carr has the lead by a lot, he has been at the helm of an expansion team which gave him a muligan on most of the losses til now and he has put up better numbers and doesn't have Jeff Garcia and Mooch breathing down his neck and a new offensive scheme to boot. Harrington might bounce back, but i have a sneaking suspicion it wont be in detriot
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hmm since i'm a texans fan,,,,and since i'm a homer,,,i'd have to say Let me see,,,,,CARR no doubt about it, plus he'll prolly lose the starting job to Garcia.
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here's my input. i live in michigan, and am a lions fan, but have also become a huge fan of houston...i like the team makeup, and the whole attitude. my answer to both questions is Carr. i think he's closer to being there than joey, and i also think he will get there first. I agree with the first post however, both will be good...i just hope the lions stick with joey long enough to see it. for some reason he's taking longer than carr. no doubt about it though, carr can play, and he will definitely be a solid QB for quite a while...possibly even a pro-bowler if he can get another stud WR.
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