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Old 05-05-2011   #1
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Default Texans Will Use Mario at LB

Heard them talking about this on the radio and think it is an interesting debate since he doesn't have the quicks you would expect.
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According to the Houston Chronicle, the Texans will use Mario Williams at outside linebacker in their new 3-4.
Mario is 6'7/290, so he'll be the biggest linebacker in NFL history. (Even bigger than Levon Kirkland.) The Patriots once considered pursuing Julius Peppers (6'7/280) to play outside 'backer in their 3-4, although Williams isn't quite as athletic. Still, it will give him a better chance at sacks than 3-4 end. Connor Barwin and Brooks Reed will compete for the job opposite Mario.
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Default Re: Texans Will Use Mario at LB

I like it. This put's the most talent on the field possible for the Texans which is a must.
Envisioned starters in the front 7
DE: A. Smith
NT: Mitchel/Cody/Okoye
DE:Watt
OLB: Mario
ILB: DeMeco
ILB: Cushing
OLB: Reed/Barwin

Can't hate that lineup.
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Default Re: Texans Will Use Mario at LB

I just hope they dont expect him to cover TE's or RBs' ....

Im almost positive that teams will find ways to exploit his presence at OLB.

On paper , it looks like a dynamic pass rushing group .... who knows how it will play out on the field.
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I just hope they dont expect him to cover TE's or RBs' ....

Im almost positive that teams will find ways to exploit his presence at OLB.

On paper , it looks like a dynamic pass rushing group .... who knows how it will play out on the field.
What they were talking about this morning is that teams that play Double TE sets...NE, Dallas, etc(with 2 athletic TEs) can take advantage of the seams because you don't know if those guys can cover or who can cover. Overall he isn't Ware so I don't see this, though it frees others up.
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Default Re: Texans Will Use Mario at LB

Bad idea.
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I just hope they dont expect him to cover TE's or RBs' ....

Im almost positive that teams will find ways to exploit his presence at OLB.

On paper , it looks like a dynamic pass rushing group .... who knows how it will play out on the field.
Agreed. I think when it's all said and done... even if he's called an OLB, his role will be pretty much the exact same as when he was a "43 DE".
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Default Re: Texans Will Use Mario at LB

I call BS. I'm sure he will be used as a pass rush OLB at times, but I'm willing to guarantee he will not be there full time. I see Watt, Smith and Mario in a DE rotation most of the time. With Barwin, Reed and someone else possibly playing the OLB's. I can see passing downs being totally different with Mario and Barwin standing. Watt, Smith and Mitchell being the down linemen.

IMO, Mario would be a huge liability in coverage. He just doesn't have the quick burst of a Barwin or Reed
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Anyone remember Ed "too tall" Jones....6'9"?
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Default Re: Texans Will Use Mario at LB

This sounds like mclame trying to be ahead of the pack type of projection. I swear that fat sack of poop knows no inside at all! Amazing how he still has a job.
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Default Re: Texans Will Use Mario at LB

Williams is going to be playing the position of pass rusher. He may start front a two point or three point stance. The texans probably will be in its 4 man pass rush front as much as the pure 3-4. Mario will rarely be doing anything he does not do now

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Default Re: Texans Will Use Mario at LB

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I like it. This put's the most talent on the field possible for the Texans which is a must.
Envisioned starters in the front 7
DE: A. Smith
NT: Mitchel/Cody/Okoye
DE:Watt
OLB: Mario
ILB: DeMeco
ILB: Cushing
OLB: Reed/Barwin

Can't hate that lineup.
This is what I expect to see "normally"

DE: Watt / A. Smith
NT: Mitchell/Cody/Okoye
DE: Mario
OLB: Reed/Mario
ILB: DeMeco
ILB: Cushing
OLB: Barwin/Reed

Passing situations (3rd & Long)

DE: A. Smith
NT: Watt
DE: Mario
OLB: Reed
ILB: DeMeco
ILB: Cushing
OLB: Barwin


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Williams is going to be playing the position of pass rusher. He may start front a two point or three pointThe texans probably will be in its 4 man pass rush front as much as the pure 3-4. Essentially Mario stance, but he will rarely be doing anything he does not do now.
I hope you're right. If Mario doesn't "buy in", then the Texans will suffer.
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Williams is going to be playing the position of pass rusher. He may start front a two point or three pointThe texans probably will be in its 4 man pass rush front as much as the pure 3-4. Essentially Mario stance, but he will rarely be doing anything he does not do now.
Exactly. Wade will put him in positions to attack the QB. All this talk about positions is really over-rated and makes no difference. Mario will be rushing the QB.
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Exactly. Wade will put him in positions to attack the QB. All this talk about positions is really over-rated and makes no difference. Mario will be sacking the QB.
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Default Re: Texans Will Use Mario at LB

LOL, Mario will never be on the depth chart as a LB. Walrus tweet aside. As AT said, he may sometimes not put his hand down. That doesn't make him a LB.

And WTF about Mario not being as athletic as Peppers?
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Default Re: Texans Will Use Mario at LB

Mario isn't really quick enough to be playing the weakside DE in a 4-3, and I think he's even less qualified to be playing at OLB in a 3-4. Everybody knows he should have been playing strongside 4-3 DE from Day 1.
I really think this is all a concerted effort in and out of the media by the Texans to appease Mario, because he's not at all happy about the prospects of playing in the 3-4. And he is one of the most valuable properties among all
Defensive lineman in the league, especially when one considers his relative youth at only 26. If I were the Texans I'd trade him while they have the opportunity to realize value for him and when the new CBA is worked out, because the window of opportunity to get value for him is rapidly closing.
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Default Re: Texans Will Use Mario at LB

This is a very Texans decision.

Mario is the prototype 3-4 DE, is entirely too big to play LB, and, according to Wade himself, takes false steps when playing standing up. Yet, they're going to attempt to stand him up to appease him and his hesitance to play inside.

I predict 1 of 2 things; this is either a quick, failed experiment, or our defense will continue to struggle and play poorly.

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LOL, Mario will never be on the depth chart as a LB. Walrus tweet aside. As AT said, he may sometimes not put his hand down. That doesn't make him a LB.

And WTF about Mario not being as athletic as Peppers?
FWIW, Granato was saying the same thing this morning on the radio, citing sources "inside the organization."
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Agreed. I think when it's all said and done... even if he's called an OLB, his role will be pretty much the exact same as when he was a "43 DE".
Thats what Im thinking - So what we will see is a 43 with 3 DE's rather than a 34 with MW at OLB. Wonder what LB they put on MW's side of the field .... Cushing or Barwin/Reed ?
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I wouldn't look too much into this. He will play SOME OLB, but I suspect the majority of his snaps will come on the line.
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