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Old 04-30-2011   #1
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Could Antonio Smith play NT in Wades defense? If Jay Ratliff can play NT why not Smith. Just listening to what Wade would like to do with his NT seems like Smiths strength. If his NT plays 1 gap Smith seems ideal to get quick pressure through his gap and this would allow Mario and JJ to be the ends. If I'm not mistaken Smith did some of this in Arizona. What do you think?
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And while we`re on it - why not Watt at OLB? He played LB in highschool...
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"The best players will play", or so I've heard.
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Could Antonio Smith play NT in Wades defense? If Jay Ratliff can play NT why not Smith. Just listening to what Wade would like to do with his NT seems like Smiths strength. If his NT plays 1 gap Smith seems ideal to get quick pressure through his gap and this would allow Mario and JJ to be the ends. If I'm not mistaken Smith did some of this in Arizona. What do you think?
just my opinion but Nose gets beat up more than any other player and I think SMith as a vet would not want that job. He is an emotional player that could pull a Hainesworth. Remember he tied up with coach last season. I think he may possibly be trade bait under new CBA.

Watt, Mitchell, Mario?
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There will probably be a bit of mixing and matching at that spot but am I the only one that is excited to see Earl Mitchell in this role? I really think he could be an impact player for us at that spot, especially with the talent we have next to him at end. He is smallish for the position but he is compact, stout, athletic, and relentless. One of the players I can't wait to get a look at in preseason.
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Default Re: Why not Smith as NT?

From reading up on Watt a lot, it sounds like he can be used as the Nose sometimes. Apparently when he faced some Centers he destroyed them. I love the versatility that Wade now has in using these players all over.
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There will probably be a bit of mixing and matching at that spot but am I the only one that is excited to see Earl Mitchell in this role? I really think he could be an impact player for us at that spot, especially with the talent we have next to him at end. He is smallish for the position but he is compact, stout, athletic, and relentless. One of the players I can't wait to get a look at in preseason.
Mitchell doesn't have the bulk or strength to consistently take on double teams or the constant trauma of an NT. On short yardage, he will not hold the middle. He will not be that fire hydrant that we will need in that situation. Mario will have more double teams than Mitchell. Smith at NT, although still not ideal, is the closest to what might work at NT........and that ain't going to happen.

We need ONE big plug in the middle for appropriate situations.
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From reading up on Watt a lot, it sounds like he can be used as the Nose sometimes. Apparently when he faced some Centers he destroyed them. I love the versatility that Wade now has in using these players all over.
That won't happen with less than 1 yard situations where the O will have their entire team concentrated in a 3 foot area.
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That won't happen with less than 1 yard situations where the O will have their entire team concentrated in a 3 foot area.
Great. Now we have concentrated fat.
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Simply illustrated, this is the concept of what the NT should be........

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Simply illustrated, this is the concept of what the NT should be........

That guy has the weirdest belly button I've ever seen!
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That guy has the weirdest belly button I've ever seen!
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Simply illustrated, this is the concept of what the NT should be........

Looks like that guy ate Travis Johnson and Frank Okam!!!!!!!!
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"The best players will play", or so I've heard.
This.

Jay Ratliff was an overachiever in Dallas. He should have supplanted Spears in Dallas, but Spears was a first round pick. Ferguson couldn't stay healthy & Dallas was desperate.

Ratliff was given an opportunity to stay on the field. He took it, & never looked back.

If Antonio Smith wants to play, it's up to him.


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Looks like that guy ate Travis Johnson and Frank Okam!!!!!!!!
I can remember many people complaining about TJ's weight. He played NT & they wanted him to lose weight.....
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Smith hated being a 3-4 end, imagine how he would feel if you now said "ok big feller, now you move inside permanently".
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Smith hated being a 3-4 end, imagine how he would feel if you now said "ok big feller, now you move inside permanently".
Where is this hated quote? I saw a comment where he said he preferred playing outside but this seems overblown. But to the original question, no Smith will not be the NT except in some sort of situational package and we most likely would be showing 4-3 at that point.
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Default Re: Why not Smith as NT?

I'm actually very happy with what Smith did for our 4-3 defense, but I think he's trade bait now. I don't think he'll do well in it and I don't think he'll like it at all....and that's before it hypothetically gets worse by asking him to play NT.
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This 2008 thread ARE AMOBE OKOYE AND TRAVIS JOHNSON A BUST? should be mandatory reading for all MB members when you have time................interesting, sad and prophetic............
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This 2008 thread ARE AMOBE OKOYE AND TRAVIS JOHNSON A BUST? should be mandatory reading for all MB members when you have time................interesting, sad and prophetic............
Very interesting! I wonder what happened to the original poster, it looked as if the mob mentality had him burned at the stake LOL
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That won't happen with less than 1 yard situations where the O will have their entire team concentrated in a 3 foot area.
I doubt well be in base 34 alignment in short yardage situations. We will likely have a short yardage package. I think that having a big nt is good but I don't think it's absolutely necessary.

Bring in Cody and put him next to watt inside. Or whatever combo. It's not like the nt will have to hold the middle by their self in those situations.
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