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Old 04-30-2011   #21
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Maybe if someone you cared about was diagnosed with a life threatening disease and had there lifes dream taken away from them you would be a little more in tune with reality.

And you mr self proclaimed draft guru, enlighten us to how much our new mr irrelevant will make a difference to this team. Or is your hand to sore to type anymore from patting yourself on the back everytime you half ass guessed at something during the draft?
Man you just need to back away from the keyboard for a while. Sleep on it. Come back and read this thread in the morning.
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This whole thread is just full of bitching. Can't we just state our different opinions instead of bitching about someone we think is bitching? Good grief.
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Man, draft has been over for a few hours and the hatchets are flyin' again! Damn, I love me some Texans Talk!
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Man, draft has been over for a few hours and the hatchets are flyin' again! Damn, I love me some Texans Talk!
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Someone give mussop a brown bag and cut the eye holes out for him.
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There's apparently something significant behind mussop's strong feelings towards this subject. Maybe, everyone should walk away from this subject for now.
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Even though reports claim there has been no spread, his age makes me somewhat suspicious. He is scheduled for chemotherapy and there is no mention of definitive surgery.
I had heard that Herzlich is in remission after undergoing chemotherapy in 2009. I've heard nothing of additional chemotherapy. Link anyone?

I have heard that Marcus Cannon (TCU OT taken by Pats in the 5th) will undergo chemotherapy.
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apparently it was only on us to make this guy's dream come true..shame on you bob mcnair...there were 31 other teams who could've made his dream come true...i hope you started an equivalent thread on all their messageboards as well.
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There's apparently something significant behind mussop's strong feelings towards this subject. Maybe, everyone should walk away from this subject for now.
Trust me when I say his situation can't be any more dire than my own on this subject, and yet I find the insults pretty low class. And I told him just that. Doc comes here and shares his knowledge with us for nothing and doesn't deserve anyone calling him Doc Clueless. I, for one, appreciate his willingness to spend a little time with us.

Besides the fact that the guy is better off not being drafted when you get that low in the draft. That way you get to pick and choose your opportunity instead of getting stuck with some crappy 32nd ranked defense.
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I had heard that Herzlich is in remission after undergoing chemotherapy in 2009. I've heard nothing of additional chemotherapy. Link anyone?

I have heard that Marcus Cannon (TCU OT taken by Pats in the 5th) will undergo chemotherapy.
Herzlich is in remission. However, contrary to what his agent Condon has stated, he is not a low risk for recurrence.

Instead of treating it for the greatest possibility of a cure, he chose to go against medical advice opting for chemotherapy only in order to best maintain lower limb structural integrity. Since the chemo was the only avenue chosen, it would have been in higher more toxic dose to the tissues (including normal tissues) and delivered over a longer period of time.

In his case the most effective route for cure would have been for preoperative chemotherapy for shrinkage of the tumor, surgery to remove the tumor and surrounding tissue, postoperative chemotherapy, and postoperative radiation therapy. This would have precluded continuance of his football career.

As I noted in my original post despite good response to chemotherapy, the survival rate will be affected and the muscles and the rest of the body will have taken its toll on his performance as an athlete.

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What about the doctors who pushed for extensive surgery as a safer route, even if it meant he had played his last down?

"I couldn't accept it," he says, "because I would know that cancer would have beaten me. Even if I came back healthy, taking away from me something I love was defeat in my eyes.

"It was a gamble. I guess I was gambling with my own life. But in the end, it was my choice."
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Marcus Cannon, on the other hand, has a type of lymphoma, a disease that is not a surgical disease. He underwent chemotherapy, which in this case given alone, should afford him a 95% chance of a full disease free life.

I hope this has answered your questions.
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You do kinda feel for the guy though, he had a lot of talent. After all he had been through, to make it back on the field for BC was pretty amazing, and I would have loved to see him drafted, but after everything doc just said, you can not blame teams for passing on him. If he is one of the lucky ones and manages to stay in remission, I am sure he will get an invite to camp somewhere though
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Maybe if someone you cared about was diagnosed with a life threatening disease and had there lifes dream taken away from them you would be a little more in tune with reality.
Don't presume to know who/if/how many I've lost to cancer -- or if I've been treated for it myself.

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Self proclaimed draft guru? Me? Where's my mock draft posted? Combine grades? Film breakdowns? Don't know who you're talking about, but it's not me. I'm a self proclaimed Houston pro football fan.

Wade thought enough of the guy, a local kid, to coach him up a bit; Kubes commented on his football IQ, he's "really good friends" with James Casey, and Mayock said "he flashed for me" at the East-West practice & has edge-rush ability.

This is a business -- you don't trashcan opportunities/assets.
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My god, this has nothing to do with his value. Do you think the guy we drafted last has any real value? You guys are as clueless as the texans.
Charlie Sheen is that you? Did you jack Mussop's account?

JK bro...take a breath!!
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Why are you doing this?

It's obvious that you know you sort of screwed up. I mean, the dude wasn't picked because he's questionable. I bet even HE knows that.

This feels like you won't let go and you're going down swinging.

Just walk away. Everybody here has made the same sort of mistake: Making a strong statement and not having all the important information at the time.

I do it at least twice a day. Minimum. LOL.
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Don't presume to know who/if/how many I've lost to cancer -- or if I've been treated for it myself.

Self proclaimed draft guru? Me? Where's my mock draft posted? Combine grades? Film breakdowns? Don't know who you're talking about, but it's not me. I'm a self proclaimed Houston pro football fan.

Wade thought enough of the guy, a local kid, to coach him up a bit; Kubes commented on his football IQ, he's "really good friends" with James Casey, and Mayock said "he flashed for me" at the East-West practice & has edge-rush ability.

This is a business -- you don't trashcan opportunities/assets.
No not you.

And yes the last pick is is such an important opportunity/asset. Its not like they couldnt of signed the guy as a UFA.
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apparently it was only on us to make this guy's dream come true..shame on you bob mcnair...there were 31 other teams who could've made his dream come true...i hope you started an equivalent thread on all their messageboards as well.
We were his last chance. Sorry you dont understand.
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We were his last chance. Sorry you dont understand.
Sorry you mistook the Texans for a Make-A-Wish foundation. I'm glad they took a local kid as Mr. Irrelevant instead of some national sob story.
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Damn. I just feel bad that the kid has cancer. I do find it a bit ironic that some want us to draft a guy who just underwent chemotherapy for bone cancer while others were railing against a team taking Quinn because of a cyst in his skull that needed draining. Quinn was fully cleared for football. Has Herzlich been cleared?
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Damn. I just feel bad that the kid has cancer. I do find it a bit ironic that some want us to draft a guy who just underwent chemotherapy for bone cancer while others were railing against a team taking Quinn because of a cyst in his skull that needed draining. Quinn was fully cleared for football. Has Herzlich been cleared?
There's is a big difference from the 11th pick to the last pick in the draft.
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