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Old 05-15-2011   #81
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I seem to recall a lone voice minutes after the selection was made on draft day talking about how he was a solid choice and that he had the makings of a solid backup.

I seem to recall almost everyone else killing the Texans, yet this one lone voice assured the group that he was a solid player.

Now, if I could just remember who that person was...
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Old 05-17-2011   #82
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I really like this pick.
Yates looks better than several QBS drafted earlier.

His mechanics are just fine.
He can throw 48-52 yards (from the LOS) with ease.
He can move and slide against pressure while still keeping his eyes downfield better than Gabbert and many other QBs in this draft.
He has the soft touch in the short passes.
He can throw well on the run.
He's more mobile than Schaub.

True, he had a terrible game against VTech.
But none of his 4 Ints were terrible.
One was due to the CB taking it as the ball bounced off the receivers' hand.
One was a good play by the CB away from playside on a drop kick call (I will get to this as it shows how the Texans failed last year.)
One was a good play by the safety who were challenged by two vertical routes.
And one was due to the outside CB releasing his man to go help the nickel back.
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This is the diagram of the drop-kick call that VTech used to get the INT by the CB away from play side.



In one of the Texans games (Chargers ?), the LCB Jackson was blamed for allowing a TD as FS Wilson stepped down to play the slant route, and RCB Quin dropped back deep covering air in the far deep right of the defense.
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Imagine Jackson as the LCB, Wilson as the FS in the middle, and Quin as the RCB.

The TE is on the left side of the offensive formation.


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The receiver on Quin's side went into motion and eventually would fake a reverse.

RCB Quin followed inside toward and behind the nickel (not sure if he was a nickel or the SS or the SAM.)
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The offense faked a run and also a reverse.
The receiver on the eventual play side relased along with the TE.
The RCB started to follow him.
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Notice that the FS started to come down to play the run and the reverse.
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However, when he read pass, the FS started dropping back.
The RCB was already deep, out of this picture.
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The FS cut off the slant rooute by the TE.
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The LCB trailed to the outside of the deep receiver;
the RCB bracketed him deep to the inside.
By this time, the ball was already in the air.
The QB probably thought that the receiver would be open (and that defense were the Texans).
RCB picked off the ball as Yates threw inside (away from the LCB).
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People slag off on dead threads. But I like them. As a writer I love the history: These capsules in time, when they are relevant.

For what it's worth, it's worthy of applause that most peeps in here backed the pick (for better or worse).

The reliable 76Texan even broke out the ol' pen and paper, and Cloak has his level head on.

But also, there are some articles and commentary at the time that I thought was interesting and strangely ironic.
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I seem to recall a lone voice minutes after the selection was made on draft day talking about how he was a solid choice and that he had the makings of a solid backup.

I seem to recall almost everyone else killing the Texans, yet this one lone voice assured the group that he was a solid player.

Now, if I could just remember who that person was...
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As The Todd would say, "Self High Five"


I will give you you your due sir. You said he was solid whereas others were killing him in the instant reaction. Your projection was actually a little lower as he looks more than a solid backup but way to stick your neck out there!
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At least Alex Brink was a 7th...WhoTF is this clown?
This must be the clown who has led us to victory's over the Falcons and Bengals. Is that the clown of which you speak?
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I was puzzled by the pick. Upset really.

Watching the highlights though, I still don't like the pick, but I like the kid.

He looks much more athletic than Schaub & his arm looks much stronger, some of the throws he made without setting his feet under him.....

I hope he isn't satisfied with being a back-up & works his butt off & prepares to start some day.
I didn't think I contributed to this thread at all, but it looks like I was spot on.

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I looked to see how I voted, and I didn't vote for some reason. Oh well. Any reaction to Yates at the time, good or bad, is normal for us. And besides, we all know by now that that it doesn't matter what round the player is taken in, they could be bust or boom once they see real action.
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I really like this pick.
Yates looks better than several QBS drafted earlier.

His mechanics are just fine.
He can throw 48-52 yards (from the LOS) with ease.
He can move and slide against pressure while still keeping his eyes downfield better than Gabbert and many other QBs in this draft.
He has the soft touch in the short passes.
He can throw well on the run.
He's more mobile than Schaub.


True, he had a terrible game against VTech.
But none of his 4 Ints were terrible.
One was due to the CB taking it as the ball bounced off the receivers' hand.
One was a good play by the CB away from playside on a drop kick call (I will get to this as it shows how the Texans failed last year.)
One was a good play by the safety who were challenged by two vertical routes.
And one was due to the outside CB releasing his man to go help the nickel back.
This is why 76Texan gets paid the big bucks!
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I'll own up to being wrong on this one. Woops.

In my defense, my reaction to the pick was based on position, not the player.
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The fact that this guy comes from a college program that runs a very similar offense is great. The fact that he has a quick release is awesome. The fact that he's operated under duress in college means the speed of the NFL might not be quite as overwhelming as you'd expect for a 5th rounder.

I'm not expecting miracles, but I'm really optimistic for Yates. I think it was a great pick.
I am happy that the things I saw out of him from the little exposure I had back then have panned out to be the same strengths I see in him now that he's playing in the NFL.
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Yates is okay but who the hell is that #83??!! Pick him up too.
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Sorry ObsiWan. He decided not to come out this year. http://www.nfldraftscout.com/ratings...2012&genpos=WR
Whoever that #83 kid was, we need to look at him for this upcoming draft.
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Dwight Jones: 2nd team All-ACC; 11 receiving TDs, over 1,100 yds receiving; 6'-4"/225# = nice red zone threat...
T.J. to D.J. ...I like the sound of that.
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Funny how most people didn't dislike Yates, they disliked drafting a QB.

We didn't see it as a "need" at the time... strange how things played out.
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