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Old 04-30-2011   #41
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it's a fifth round pick. Why not take a developmental QB to groom behind Schaub?
Because we were 6 -10 last year !!!!!!!!!!

Kubes got like 16 weeks left to prove he's a winner or else he's kicked outta town

Kubes won't have no time to groom somebody when he's out of work !!!!!

And schaub !!! Wants kubes leaves it will only be a matter of time before wade wants to bring in his own qb to tie the hip with
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If you read the conference call quotes, North Carolina basically ran the Texans offense the past couple of years. If you watch the highlights, the plays are basically the same.
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I watched some video on this kid ... He's got a really quick release and is very accurate. He hasnt had much protection , the pocket was chaotic to say the least. He found ways to escape or get rid of the ball on target even if he took a big hit in the process .....

Considering he will play behind Schaub and be under the eye of a very good QB coach in Kubiak , I like his chances to work out in the long run.

He was the last QB on the board at the time that has the potential to start in the NFL .... I really like this pick.
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I have to share this impression which I must admit accurately reflected my own initial "what the.....?" impression of the pick.

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Bleecher Report ranks their impressions of how successful a career this class of 2011 QB's will become & grade T.J. Yates #9. Found it somewhat interesting enough to share - http://bleacherreport.com/articles/6...ie-qbs/page/10

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T.J. Yates comes in as a backup to Matt Schaub. As a result, he will get plenty of time to learn the game.

Yates is a solid prospect who has good upside, but he is far from ready to be a starting quarterback.

He most likely ends up as a career backup, but he will be a backup you can depend on.
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Bleecher Report ranks their impressions of how successful a career this class of 2011 QB's will become & grade T.J. Yates #9. Found it somewhat interesting enough to share - http://bleacherreport.com/articles/6...ie-qbs/page/10
Beer - didnt see you say much about Yates as a player , just that ML would likely be gone and Yates makes the final roster - what do you think of him as a prospect ?
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I also saw Dilfer rave about this guy during ESPNs Draft show, so perhaps that's worth something ? Atleast Kubiak isn't the only guy who likes him.
But re our QB situation, I'm still trying to figure out why they retained DanO while releaseing Grossman ?
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I also saw Dilfer rave about this guy during ESPNs Draft show, so perhaps that's worth something ? Atleast Kubiak isn't the only guy who likes him.
But re our QB situation, I'm still trying to figure out why they retained DanO while releaseing Grossman ?
DanO was signed to a multi-year contract and Grossman to a 1 year deal. Grossman wanted the chance to start and knew he wasn't going to get that chance here.

So when little Shanny went to Washington to install the same offense and with no incumbent QB and a new offense, he had a chance to start.
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Beer - didnt see you say much about Yates as a player , just that ML would likely be gone and Yates makes the final roster - what do you think of him as a prospect ?
To be honest QB was not even on my list for the Texans, my focus was defense driven, so many needs & holes to fill so my initial reaction was one of displeasure & shock. I did have the Texans taking a flyer w/QB prospect in my last mock (Mr. Irrelevant pick -Scott Tolzien - who went undrafted) but was not prepared to invest a 5th rd. pick on that position.

T.J. Yates is much like Schaub in his drops, not the most mobile QB either. But in the classic pocket passer mold, he sets-up clean & reads through his progressions. We've all read by now they used the same system in Carolina so that is a big asset to Kubiak, more ready made than most any other QB for this system in his class. He lacks arm strength, especially when compared to Orlovsky but shows better pocket composure & decision making, hence if he can get into camp sooner than later he can develop on a fast track to win the back-up role, if however the lockout keeps everyone strung out he is unlikely to develop quick enough so even working his butt off will have to prove he is worth a roster spot as third on depth chart.
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I preferred Nathan Enderle from Idaho who went 160 to CHicago.
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I preferred Nathan Enderle from Idaho who went 160 to CHicago.
Yates is more Pro-ready. Enderle may end up better but that is only a projection, odds are kinda stacked against him in Chicago that's an exceptionally tough situation to play in the windy city.
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Yates is more Pro-ready. Enderle may end up better but that is only a projection, odds are kinda stacked against him in Chicago that's an exceptionally tough situation to play in the windy city.
Interesting, I have Enderle more pro ready by slight margin but probably because I have watched him actually play games and Yates, everything came after we drafted him. Anyway, I think playing behind a solid starter will benefit each. Yates is a Texan and my guy now.
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To be honest QB was not even on my list for the Texans, my focus was defense driven, so many needs & holes to fill so my initial reaction was one of displeasure & shock. I did have the Texans taking a flyer w/QB prospect in my last mock (Mr. Irrelevant pick -Scott Tolzien - who went undrafted) but was not prepared to invest a 5th rd. pick on that position.

T.J. Yates is much like Schaub in his drops, not the most mobile QB either. But in the classic pocket passer mold, he sets-up clean & reads through his progressions. We've all read by now they used the same system in Carolina so that is a big asset to Kubiak, more ready made than most any other QB for this system in his class. He lacks arm strength, especially when compared to Orlovsky but shows better pocket composure & decision making, hence if he can get into camp sooner than later he can develop on a fast track to win the back-up role, if however the lockout keeps everyone strung out he is unlikely to develop quick enough so even working his butt off will have to prove he is worth a roster spot as third on depth chart.
I have to agree with the initial reaction .... I wasnt thrilled y any stretch of the imagination.

Your evaluation is about right on Yates the player. Lots of things to like about him. His transition to the Texans playbook will be more terminology than anything else.

One of the biggest things I saw from him in watching tape was how well he performed when under durress , which was the vast majority of the time. He didnt let pressure get to him and his release is very sudden allowing him to get rid of the ball almost instantly.
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As I try to warm up to this pick, I am constantly reminded that Yates averaged almost 12 interceptions each season at UNC against 15 touchdowns within his four years as a full-time starter.
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As I try to warm up to this pick, I am constantly reminded that Yates averaged almost 12 interceptions each season at UNC against 15 touchdowns within his four years as a full-time starter.
He didnt have a lot of protection .... that contributed to the INT numbers. He seemed to be under durress on almost every play.
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He didnt have a lot of protection .... that contributed to the INT numbers. He seemed to be under durress on almost every play.
Valid point. But I still have to wonder if it will occur with adequate protection. That can only be determined once he gets out on the field......if he ever does.
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I am on board with this pick I think as long as he is not related to anyone named Andrea. I kid I think.
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**** dis shit Im mad We don't need a qb. ESP for a 5th round pick. We need some much more help in other areas
??? The backup QB/developmental QB position was a known need for this team going into the draft...a lot of people here talked about it. (I expected them to target a QB around where they did.....how the hell could anybody not with their targeted FA backup QB getting beat out of his job every offseason by street FAs) Seriously, how people are shocked by this pick is confusing and surprising...it wasn't that hard to see coming.

The Yates pick was one of my favorite picks in the draft, at worst I think he'll be able to develop into a Sage Rosenfels type backup.......which is a pretty good backup who you don't worry about getting put in as a pinch starter. At best he's a player who can push for a starting spot in this league. So all in all, it was a savvy pick and a NEEDED pick for the Texans. Dan O needs to go and Lienart will most likely move on elsewhere as well. The Texans needed to spend a pick on this position and I'm glad they did.

If the QB position is the most important position in all of sports, the backup QB position is high up there as well, because when a injury takes place, you'll be praying for a good #2 option.

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As I try to warm up to this pick, I am constantly reminded that Yates averaged almost 12 interceptions each season at UNC against 15 touchdowns within his four years as a full-time starter.
Those #s don't mean much to me (They would have if T.J. Yates was drafted in the first 3 rounds), but T.J. Yates wasn't drafted on his whole body of work. He was drafted because of his senior season where he looked like a completely different player than he did his freshman and junior season (he was hurt as a sophomore), so those #s are irrelevant and I can see why the Texans would take a flier on him based off the improvement he showed last season...his gains and improvement were through the roof. Any QB that you draft in the 5th round is going to have serious question marks, but if the mental aspect of the game is half the battle than we already have half the battle won.

Also I don't see much of a difference (if at all) in the arm strength of Yates and Schaub. I actually think Yates can gain a little arm strength if he corrects that horrible throwing motion. It looks like he's pushing the ball, instead of throwing it. Some of his throws just don't look right and I think that's the biggest weakness he has.
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