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Old 04-30-2011   #41
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Watching that reminds me of Jacques Reeves.

I was a Reeves fan so it's not a bad think for me. Just wondering why you would cut a guy and then draft a "like guy" a year later.
I was reminded of Jacques Reeves except in a good way. My impression was could stay tight like Reeves but had the ball awareness to turn and make plays which would be a huge upgrade. Being so tight keeps QB's from throwing and even if they do leaves you in a position to stick a hand in the mix and jack things up. Can't do that from three yards away. And I thought it was a mistake to get rid of Reeves anyway.
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LOl at the fact that Jaque Reeves actually had fans around here. The guy was terrible. If that is still the standard that people are okay with around here for DB's than it's no wonder Rick Smith and Kubiak fail to address the secondary every year in free agency.
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I don't know that I can listen to 610 and their spinning anymore..........

"We just got 2 picks...........Quinn moves to safety."

We still have no starting CB that we can reasonably to step in. He's not a starter.....at best a nickel...............and we have no 3rd and 5th.

I'm sorry, I have a great deal of trouble getting excited.
Absolutely worst case scenario right now.
Jason Allen & Kareem Jackson are given the starting spot. Brandon Harris is given the nickel.


I have never doubted that we will do something in FA to bring a starting corner back to Houston. I also think we'll see a starting safety as well.

So I think we'll end up with:
A corner back no one is thinking of. Not necessarily a FA most likely a trade. Try to think about a team that could use Antonio Smith, Steve Slaton, & Antwan Molden.

Kareem Jackson, Jason Allen, Brandon Harris, Sherrick McManis, and Brice McCain will compete for the second starting spot, the nickel, & two back-up spots. Brandon Harris & Sherrick McManis can play special teams as returners.
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LOl at the fact that Jaque Reeves actually had fans around here. The guy was terrible. If that is still the standard that people are okay with around here for DB's than it's no wonder Rick Smith and Kubiak fail to address the secondary every year in free agency.
Funny thing, I think.

Reeves was a better football player before he came here. Someone in our organization ruined a bad football player.
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It's not bad, but we still need a FA vet that's better (at least this year).

Time to put down the crack pipe and step away. Peterson was the best CB in the draft by a wide margin.
Not what I said 3; perhaps you need to put down the crack pipe, take a nap, eat a good meal and read the post again. I said Harris was better at watching the receiver rather than the QB. This allows him to time his move on the ball.
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Funny thing, I think.

Reeves was a better football player before he came here. Someone in our organization ruined a bad football player.
He was horrible with the Cowboys.
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You're beginning to scare me.
Why? We know how KJ did as a bump & run CB. Harris is a cover type that will run with the WR not try to bump the receiver off his route, miss or get manhandled out of the play then have to scramble to make up. There is a solid chance that we will not get a vet FA that can eliminate our concern @ the #1 slot. Glover Quin was the best CB last season not KJ. Quin is the new FS. I want a good vet CB but wanting something does not equal Texans getting it.
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Why? We know how KJ did as a bump & run CB. Harris is a cover type that will run with the WR not try to bump the receiver off his route, miss or get manhandled out of the play then have to scramble to make up. There is a solid chance that we will not get a vet FA that can eliminate our concern @ the #1 slot. Glover Quin was the best CB last season not KJ. Quin is the new FS. I want a good vet CB but wanting something does not equal Texans getting it.
Why are you guys so certain that Quinn will be able to just move to safety and he's going to be some easy fix there? Sure it's possible, but I don't understand this sentiment like it's just some easy move that will work out with no problems. It seems like any time we draft a CB or get a stop gap type of guy in free agency people in here think our problems are automatically solved before the guy ever plays a down. I'd think that people would remember how many failed projects we've had in our secondary over the years and wouldn't be so quick to think that every new player here is going to be the answer. I think Quinn might make a nice safety and all. He certainly can hit, but I won't assume that it's just some transition that will work just because.
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LOl at the fact that Jaque Reeves actually had fans around here. The guy was terrible. If that is still the standard that people are okay with around here for DB's than it's no wonder Rick Smith and Kubiak fail to address the secondary every year in free agency.
I hate when people can't see the narrow point of a comparison. Reeves was excellent with being on the hip of his WR. That was the comparison. The contrast was Reeves was horrible on ball awareness so despite how close he was would not make the play on the ball. Harris has very good ball awareness. He goes more for PD's than INT's but either way the pass isn't complete. He is also much better at run/pass recognition.
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If you read the coaches quotes, It basically says that quinn will be a starting safety and that their not as high on Troy Nolen.
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I hate when people can't see the narrow point of a comparison. Reeves was excellent with being on the hip of his WR. That was the comparison. The contrast was Reeves was horrible on ball awareness so despite how close he was would not make the play on the ball. Harris has very good ball awareness. He goes more for PD's than INT's but either way the pass isn't complete. He is also much better at run/pass recognition.
My point was that Reeves was horrible here. Spin that all you want, but he was. He was horrible with the Cowboys before we got him and Frog specifically tried to tell many that as well at the time. The fact that he had fans here and still does is mind boggling at this point. He may have been better than the other trio of bad CB's we've had over the years, but that didn't change the fact that he was garbage.

And why don't we wait and see what Harris does before acting like he's that great of a pick just yet. Lets not forget how great people thought Kareem Jackson was going to be and how NFL ready he supposedly was. We also had Moulden and Bennet that everyone was so high on. Harris has potential and he wasn't a bad pick or anything, but I don't get all the excitement right away. It seems like people think that every time we pick a CB that we've automatically nailed it.
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I love this pick as well as what the Texans have done with the other picks. Harris reminds me of Brandon Flowers from KC, and his a beast. If we can get a solid number one corner in FA, I wouldn't mind having Harris as our number two.
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I can understaznd your reservations - But we got our #3 in the late second round at the expense of .... picking another TE. Harris was thought by many to be a late first rounder. I think its excellent value .....


I agree that Harris is likely the 3rd corner. BUT if KJ doesnt get it together , he may be the #2. We still have FA to go thru .... whenever they decide to quit arguin about who gets what part of the $9billion.

I expect they go after at least one of the top two CB's - From what I hear , Namdi is a real possibility. (Dont ask for a source .... cause I wont give one.)
If they cant land one of Taylor or Asomugha they still have lots of options to fix the back end .... leaving Quin at CB and looking elsewhere (FA) to fix the FS spot as well as adding an SS.


I also expect they draft at least one SS/FS on the final day of the draft.
Consider Chris Prosinski FS/SS Wyoming 6'1" 201 lbs: 03/22/2011 - NFL Draft Scout Riser: Chris Prosinski, FS, Wyoming: A very productive tackler in college, Prosinski surprised scouts with his athleticism; few expected the All-Mountain West pick to post a 4.39 40, 39 1/2-inch vertical, 4.28 short shuttle, and 11-foot-2-inch broad jump. That sort of performance may earn him late-round consideration, especially in a weak safety class. - Chad Reuter, NFLDraftScout.com

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Overview
Though Prosinski stayed in his home state of Wyoming, he could have gone to schools like Boise State, Georgia Tech, Harvard and Princeton. Getting recruited by good football programs and Ivy League schools is a clue about his strong combination of athleticism and intelligence -- something his play for the Cowboys also made evident.

He received one of five prestigious National Football Foundation National High School Scholar-Athlete awards before his redshirt season, and his first year on the field saw him rack up 37 tackles in reserve duty. He then earned honorable-mention Mountain West honors in 2008 (88 tackles, three interceptions, nine pass breakups), second-team all-conference accolades in 2009 (140 tackles, 3.5 TFL, six PBUs, two forced fumbles) and 2010 (108 tackles, two INTs, five PBUs, two FF).

Prosinski's excellent pro day workout (4.39 40, 39.5-inch vertical, 4.28 short shuttle, 6.85 three-cone), in addition to his durability, intelligence and production, will help regional scouts to sell their superiors on the tough safety's merits as a late-round addition to the roster.

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Positives: Centerfielder with straight-line speed and high football intelligence. Excellent closing speed when getting to the sideline or to ballcarriers over the middle. Most secure tackler on the team when technique is sound, keeps legs moving and uses arms to wrap after contact. Also cuts down ballcarriers with his shoulder when coming downhill. Recognizes routes coming into his area and has the recovery speed to get the angle on running backs down the opposite sideline and deep throws from play-action. Breaks up passes in front of receivers, at times making the interception, without interfering. Team captain in 2010.

Negatives: Sometimes resorts to ducking his head on open-field tackles instead of staying low and square. Not an intimidating hitter. Hesitates when plays slow down instead of inserting himself into the pile to prevent further yardage. Engulfed near the line on run plays by linemen and larger tight ends. Inconsistent finding his way through trash when flying up into the box.

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Prosinski ended his career ranked No. 4 in career tackles at UW with 373 career tackles. He ranked No. 3 in the MWC and No. 42 in the NCAA in tackles this season, averaging 9.0 tackles per game. He led Wyoming in tackles with a total of 108 in 2010, marking the second consecutive season in which he had over 100 tackles in a season. He had 140 in 2009.

2009 Season
Prosinski was voted Second Team All-Mountain West Conference at the conclusion of the 2009 season in balloting by the nine MWC head coaches and media from around the conference. He led Wyoming in tackles in `09, with 140. That ranks as the fourth best single-season tackle total in Wyoming school history. He also led all MWC defensive backs in tackles in `09. His single-game high in 2009 was 17 tackles versus No. 2 Texas. That ranked as the 18th best single-game tackle total in the country in `09. He had 16 tackles versus No. 25 ranked BYU and 13 each versus UNLV and No. 4 ranked TCU. Against TCU, he also returned a fumble 98 yards for a touchdown. Prosinski was credited with 12 tackles on the road at No. 19 ranked Utah. He earned MWC Defensive Player of the Week honors for his performance at Colorado State. Prosinski had 10 tackles, forced one fumble and made a huge tackle on third down and goal at the Wyoming four-yard line that forced CSU into a field goal and kept the Cowboys within two points at 16-14. Wyoming would later kick a field goal to capture a 17-16 victory over CSU. For the second consecutive year, he earned Academic All-Conference recognition. Prosinski was named his team's Defensive Back of the Year at the annual awards banquet.

2008 Season
In his first season as a starter, Prosinski earned Honorable Mention All-Conference accolades. He led the team in passes defended in 2008, with 12. That ranked him No. 4 in the MWC and No. 38 in the nation. He tied for the team lead in interceptions with senior linebacker Ward Dobbs -- each had three interceptions on the season. That also tied him for fourth best in the MWC and 96th nationally. Prosinski ranked No. 3 in total tackles for UW, with 88, and he ranked No. 15 in the Mountain West in that category. He had a season high 15 tackles at New Mexico. His other double-digit tackle performance came against Air Force, with 13 total tackles. He was credited with nine tackles in two other games -- versus Utah and at UNLV. Against North Dakota State, Prosinski intercepted two passes, broke up a third pass and recorded seven tackles. His third interception of the season came in the season finale versus Colorado State. Prosinski achieved Academic All-Conference honors for the first time in his UW career.

2007 Season
Prosinski was credited with 37 total tackles, 15 solos and 22 assists in his first season of competition at the college level. He also broke up one pass. Despite not starting, he ranked 12th on the Cowboy squad in tackles. His best individual game came against BYU as he was credited with 13 total tackles. He also had a six-tackle performance at Utah.

2006 Season
Redshirted. During the `06 season, Prosinski received a very exclusive honor as he was named one of only five former high school football student-athletes in the nation as a 2006 National Football Foundation (NFF) National High School Scholar-Athlete. Prosinski was the West Region honoree. Of all the high school football players in the nation approximately 2,500 are honored annually by the 120 NFF chapters across the country with NFF scholarships. From those 2,500 scholarship recipients only five receive the National High School Scholar-Athlete award.

High School
Prosinski was named the Offensive Player of the Year in the state of Wyoming by the Casper Star-Tribune. He was also named to the Super 25 by the Star-Tribune. Prosinski led Buffalo to back-to-back Wyoming 4A State titles and a 22-game winning streak during his junior and senior seasons. Prosinski played quarterback for the Buffalo Bison, but is projected as a safety for the Cowboys. Prosinski threw for 592 yards and eight touchdowns, and ran for 703 yards and 17 TDs from his quarterback position. He also excelled as a punt returner, averaging 23.5 yards per punt return. He returned two punts for touchdowns. In football, Prosinski was a two-time All-State selection and was the 4A East Player of the Year. He competed for the North Team in the 2006 Shrine Bowl of Wyoming. An outstanding basketball player, Prosinski played for his father Paul, who is Buffalo's head basketball coach. Buffalo won the 3A State Championship in basketball his senior season, posting a 23-2 record. Prosinski earned All-State honors for the second consecutive year and was named Player of the Game in the State Championship game. His junior year, he placed in four events at the state track and field championships. Prosinski won the state championship in the long jump, placed second in the 100 hurdles, third in the 300 hurdles and fourth in the triple jump.
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My point was that Reeves was horrible here. Spin that all you want, but he was. He was horrible with the Cowboys before we got him and Frog specifically tried to tell many that as well at the time. The fact that he had fans here and still does is mind boggling at this point. He may have been better than the other trio of bad CB's we've had over the years, but that didn't change the fact that he was garbage.
So friggin' what. The comparison wasn't on how good he was. It was a style or ability to stay close to the WR point. It's like you aren't even reading at this point. Reeves was excellent at staying with his WR but gave up tons of plays because he sucked at ball awareness. Harris has very good ball awareness. There is nothing spin or endorsement of Reeves in that. It is a very simple comparison on ability to stay close to a WR in man coverage. Damn sometimes this crap is impossible. I used Reeves as a person everyone is familiar with on one specific trait. If I had used Champ Bailey staying close you'd be bitching that Harris is no Champ Bailey and a rookie shouldn't be compared to a hall of famer. It isn't about overall quality, it was about one specific ability.

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And why don't we wait and see what Harris does before acting like he's that great of a pick just yet.
Ummm, because it is during the draft and right now we are discussing the picks before they play a down. What we should wait 6 months to comment? Then why are you discussing it at all?
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So friggin' what. The comparison wasn't on how good he was. It was a style or ability to stay close to the WR point. It's like you aren't even reading at this point. Reeves was excellent at staying with his WR but gave up tons of plays because he sucked at ball awareness. Harris has very good ball awareness. There is nothing spin or endorsement of Reeves in that. It is a very simple comparison on ability to stay close to a WR in man coverage. Damn sometimes this crap is impossible. I used Reeves as a person everyone is familiar with on one specific trait. If I had used Champ Bailey staying close you'd be bitching that Harris is no Champ Bailey and a rookie shouldn't be compared to a hall of famer. It isn't about overall quality, it was about one specific ability.
I never mentioned one thing about the comparison of staying with their man. My initial post was about how surprised I was that reeves still had fans that appreciated him and that was shocking to me considering how bad he was here. I never even went into whether or not the comparison was valid about staying with his man. You just jumped down my throat using that as your argument when I never even said whether I agreed with that or not or even mentioned that. Maybe you are the one who needs to read and respond to what people actually write and what their point is instead of looking to be so defensive. Good grief.
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So friggin' what. The comparison wasn't on how good he was. It was a style or ability to stay close to the WR point. It's like you aren't even reading at this point. Reeves was excellent at staying with his WR but gave up tons of plays because he sucked at ball awareness. Harris has very good ball awareness. There is nothing spin or endorsement of Reeves in that. It is a very simple comparison on ability to stay close to a WR in man coverage. Damn sometimes this crap is impossible. I used Reeves as a person everyone is familiar with on one specific trait. If I had used Champ Bailey staying close you'd be bitching that Harris is no Champ Bailey and a rookie shouldn't be compared to a hall of famer. It isn't about overall quality, it was about one specific ability.



Ummm, because it is during the draft and right now we are discussing the picks before they play a down. What we should wait 6 months to comment? Then why are you discussing it at all?
So what you're saying is that Reeves sucks and Harris will be in the HOF??
J/K. That drove me nucking futs about Reeves. He weould be right there to make a play, but looking the wrong way.
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I never mentioned one thing about the comparison of staying with their man. My initial post was about how surprised I was that reeves still had fans that appreciated him and that was shocking to me considering how bad he was here. I never even went into whether or not the comparison was valid about staying with his man. You just jumped down my throat using that as your argument when I never even said whether I agreed with that or not or even mentioned that. Maybe you are the one who needs to read and respond to what people actually write and what their point is instead of looking to be so defensive. Good grief.
I was responding to someone else and then you responded with the next post about Reeves. Seemed like you were attempting to respond to me without quoting and it seemed you were acting as if my use of Reeves as a comparison meant some sort of endorsement of Reeves. Anyway...
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Lol, I remember after a game LZ talking about the need to attach side view mirrors to Reeves' helmet so he could see the ball. Classic!
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I happen to be a fan of all three picks and I hope and think they will work out but they should not just be expected to be the answer right away so hopefully some free agents are signed when the time is right.
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I was responding to someone else and then you responded with the next post about Reeves. Seemed like you were attempting to respond to me without quoting and it seemed you were acting as if my use of Reeves as a comparison meant some sort of endorsement of Reeves. Anyway...
I was just being a smart a**. I read what you 2 were talking about. That's why the J/K. Texecutioner seems to be in a foul mood lately.
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