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Old 04-25-2011   #1
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Default McClain Claim Texans to Move up for Miller or Peterson

Though you can't trade Okoye so his report makes no sense

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#Texans expected to try to trade up for Von Miller or Patrick Peterson. http://bit.ly/e12Jwl
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The Houston Chronicle's John McClain expects the Texans to try to trade up for Von Miller or Patrick Peterson.The Texans would have to get to No. 2 for Miller, and McClain suggests offering their first-, third-, and fourth-round picks plus Amobi Okoye. We suspect it still wouldn't be enough to move from No. 11 to 2. Peterson may be a more reasonable target, particularly if he's on the board at No. 5 or 6. If the Texans stay put, McClain has them taking Aldon Smith of Missouri. Apr 25, 4:56 PM
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Per the trade value chart, #Texans would have to offer their entire draft plus Amobi Okoye to get from 11 to 2 for Von Miller
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@ Ha, they can't. Trade for Von Miller won't happen. Peterson not out of question. RT @will12203 but how can the Texans trade a player?
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Default Re: McClain Claim Texans to Move up for Miller or Peterson

I'd rather have Peterson than Miller because he's scheme-diverse while Miller is a 3-4 guy only and he's also going to struggle vs the run.
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Default Re: McClain Claim Texans to Move up for Miller or Peterson

Is there some kind of loophole or special provision that would allow teams to trade players? I don't know everything about the NFL rules and what's what in regards to lockout dealings...Maybe there is some small print somewhere that would allow a player to be traded...McClain isn't the first one I've seen say that...
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Default Re: McClain Claim Texans to Move up for Miller or Peterson

Trading up is definitely the way to go IMO...I'd take Peterson or Miller...I think both make an instant impact on our defense...
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Default Re: McClain Claim Texans to Move up for Miller or Peterson

With the judges ruling today; would player movement be possible? The lockout is lifted after all...in theory.
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Default Re: McClain Claim Texans to Move up for Miller or Peterson

While I'm not at all against moving up for Peterson at the price of swapping firsts and surrendering a first, third and fourth for him. However, it also essentially screams WIN NOW, which more or less is the position the Texans are in.
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I see the Texans windbag is still blowing strong...

Smokescreen anyone?
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Default Re: McClain Claim Texans to Move up for Miller or Peterson

I would much rather have Peterson than Miller because Miller has a bigger bust potential. Peterson contributes in a lot of ways and is badly needed as a CB or FS whereas, we can get a rush OLB later on in the draft or sign an UDFA.
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Default Re: McClain Claim Texans to Move up for Miller or Peterson

John McClain is so full of shit.

It's amazing how they talk about trading up every year, and they always vastly underestimate what it would cost to do it.

F'kin sportswriters.
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Default Re: McClain Claim Texans to Move up for Miller or Peterson

Gotta be Wade, and he may be one of those "fall in love" guys. I hope Mr Smith nixes it.

It appears they're active behind the scenes this year, which may be a new way to ferret out likely picks & smokescreen our own. Jerrah does that.
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Default Re: McClain Claim Texans to Move up for Miller or Peterson

Just do it. I'm all for it.
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Default Re: McClain Claim Texans to Move up for Miller or Peterson

The middle rounds of the draft is where you build the core of your team. Trading away those picks make no sense to me. One player is not going to solve this teams problems, but several can start to make a difference.
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Default Re: McClain Claim Texans to Move up for Miller or Peterson

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The middle rounds of the draft is where you build the core of your team. Trading away those picks make no sense to me. One player is not going to solve this teams problems, but several can start to make a difference.
The middle rounds is where we've stunk it up also.
One freak of nature talent can help a team as or more than 2 or 3 ordinary players that are back ups or special teamers.
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Default Re: McClain Claim Texans to Move up for Miller or Peterson

I'm all for moving up for impact players but I don't think throwing out a whole dradt for rookies is a good idea. If you are going to throw 2 #1s for a proven vet like Aso I can see it. If you are going to have a draft that lists one rookie and say.."Awesome" that is playing a little too fast and loose. I think Peterson is more valuable considering his size allows him the move to safety and you can also get a FA CB. But overall I wouldn't give up too much. I think if they move up it is a few spots for one of the pass rushers they think may be going too early.
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Default Re: McClain Claim Texans to Move up for Miller or Peterson

Surely you wouldn't trade up for Peterson with the mind set he could move to safety?

You don't give up the farm for a safety.
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So because we won our last game, we got burdened with Smithiak for another and we have to give up our whole draft to draft someone we could have had at our natural position.

As long as they don't trade next years picks, I guess I am fine with it. I just don't want them trading 2012 picks. Those picks are for the next regime.
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If they move up, they need to try for Dareus. Plug that middle for Mario and our backers.
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So because we won our last game, we got burdened with Smithiak for another and we have to give up our whole draft to draft someone we could have had at our natural position.
Right. It's really counter productive for a team to pull out all of the stops to win their last game when the difference between 5 and 6 wins in the following years draft can be the difference between getting a really valuable starter vs getting an average talent. For example it could be the difference between getting a Von Miller or a Patrick Peterson vs a Aldon Smith or a Prince.
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The middle rounds of the draft is where you build the core of your team. Trading away those picks make no sense to me. One player is not going to solve this teams problems, but several can start to make a difference.
With Rick and Garys draft record. Give me Peterson/Miller over 1st rd pick (Jackson) 3rd rd pick (Caldwell/Molden) 4th rd pick (Graham.)

Take the sure thing every time and twice on Sunday. Even if you have to throw in a 2012 3rd.

Thorn I agree with your philosophy. But with Rick and Gary mid round wasting picks. I would do the trade up thing.
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If they move up, they need to try for Dareus. Plug that middle for Mario and our backers.
I'd rather this than Miller or PatPete.

However, I'm also against any trade up.
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