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Old 04-28-2011   #21
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Cam Newton first, Von Miller to Denver, and the Bills select Marcell Dareus. Check out this QB run, it’s insane: Newton to Carolina, Gabbert to the Niners, Locker to the Titans, Ponder to the Redskins, and Dalton to the Vikings. That’s five QBs in the first twelve selections! Aldon Smith goes off the board at 11. Robert Quinn falls to #20. Prince Amukamara falls to #25. Wow. On the board at #21: Carimi, Boston College OT Anthony Castonzo, Wisconsi
http://arrowheadaddict.com/2011/04/2...tll-be-carimi/
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site (that's rich, what a joke), but I got some bits and pieces from a Chiefs website who says Gosselin also has us taking A.Smith, but he's got Robert Quinn and the Prince falling all the way to 20 & 25, respectively. Wow !
But what puzzles me the most is his call that Miller goes to Denver at 2 ? I wouldn't be surprised if Denver was a 3-4 team, but it's not ?
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I would be pi$$ed if we took Smith over Prince or Quin.

I have gotten to the point in my mind where Aldon Smith is worst case scenario.
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1st pick: Carolina Panthers
Cam Newton -- QB, Auburn
The Panthers had the worst quarterbacking in the NFL last season with only nine TD passes in 16 games. Newton gives the Panthers a chance, although his legs are likely to carry him through his rookie season.
(Team needs: QB, WR, CB, DL)

2nd pick: Denver Broncos
Von Miller -- OLB, Texas A&M
New coach John Fox is switching to a 4-3 defense and needs tackles and linebackers. He can get competitive tackles into the third round. But there’s only one impact linebacker in this draft. Miller is the value here.
(Team needs: DL, OT, TE, LB)

3rd pick: Buffalo Bills
Marcell Dareus -- DT, Alabama
The Bills finished last in the NFL in run defense in 2010. They need some bigger, nastier players to line up against the Jets and Pats. In Dareus, they land the best run defender in this draft. He also brings an attitude.
(Team needs: QB, DL, OT, LB)

4th pick: Cincinnati Bengals
A.J. Green -- WR, Georgia
This is the only shot the Bengals have of luring Carson Palmer out of retirement. Draft the best receiver in college football, release Chad Ochocinco and Terrell Owens, and give Palmer a clean canvas to resume his career.
(Team needs: QB, WR, CB, pass rusher)

5th pick: Arizona Cardinals
Patrick Peterson -- CB, LSU
When you finish 31st in offense and 29th in defense like the Cardinals of 2010, anyone you draft is going to be an upgrade. Peterson is a huge upgrade for the secondary. Arizona is surprised to see him still on the board at 5.
(Team needs: QB, LB, pass rusher, OT)

6th pick: Cleveland Browns
Julio Jones -- WR, Alabama
The Browns need a lead receiver to accelerate the development of QB Colt McCoy. Voila — Jones was a walk-in starter at Alabama, and he’ll be a walk-in starter at Cleveland. He averaged almost 15 yards per career catch.
(Team needs: WR, CB, OT, DE)

7th pick: San Francisco 49ers
Blaine Gabbert -- QB, Missouri
Jim Harbaugh is a quarterback maker — first Josh Johnson at the University of San Diego and then Andrew Luck at Stanford. In his first year as head coach of the 49ers, Harbaugh wants a quarterback he can build a team around.
(Team needs: QB, G, def. playmakers)

8th pick: Tennessee Titans
Jake Locker -- QB, Washington
The Titans want to put the Vince Young era behind them. Locker provides Tennessee a key element Young lacked — leadership. Locker was a two-year captain at Washington and a very charismatic player.
(Team needs: QB, DL, LB, S)

9th pick: Dallas Cowboys
Tyron Smith -- OT, Southern Cal
The Cowboys have four starters on the offensive line who turn 32 this season. This group needs to get younger — and what better way than to select the youngest player in this draft? Smith turns 21 in December.
(Team needs: OT, G, DE, CB)

10th pick: Washington Redskins
Christian Ponder -- QB, Florida State
Mike Shanahan is not going to enter a second season with Donovan McNabb, so the Redskins spent all day Wednesday trying to move up. Gabbert was the target. Failing there, they take the next best QB on the board.
(Team needs: QB, WR, CB, youth)

11th pick: Houston Texans
Aldon Smith -- DE, Missouri
The Texans are switching to a 3-4 defensive scheme, and Smith can play anywhere in it. He has the frame to bulk up to play end or the speed and athleticism to play linebacker. The NFL’s 30th-ranked defense needs help.
(Team needs: DL, LB, DB, WR)

12th pick: Minnesota Vikings
Andy Dalton -- QB, TCU
Like the Titans, the Vikings need to draft a rookie quarterback and play him immediately. Dalton brings a wealth of experience — four years as a starter, 42 career victories and more than 1,300 career passes.
(Team needs: QB, DL, OT, CB)

13th pick: Detroit Lions
Nick Fairley -- DT, Auburn
Ndamukong Suh was perhaps the best defensive tackle in the NFL as a rookie in 2011. Adding Fairley makes Suh even better. Fairley is the best inside pass rusher in this draft. The Lions are building a formidable front.
(Team needs: LB, CB, OT, WR)

14th pick: St. Louis Rams
Mark Ingram -- HB, Alabama
The Rams would love to draft a wide receiver for Sam Bradford, but there are none worthy of this selection. St. Louis will continue to give Bradford weapons, though — the best running back in this draft.
(Team needs: Pass rusher, CB, WR, S)

15th pick: Miami Dolphins
Mike Pouncey -- C, Florida
The only need the Dolphins can still address here is the offensive line, and Pouncey gives them two-position versatility. Like his brother Maurkice, a first-round pick of the Steelers in 2010, Mike can play guard or center.
(Team needs: OL, OLB, CB, QB)

16th pick: Jacksonville Jaguars
Ryan Kerrigan -- DE, Purdue
You can’t expect to survive with a paltry pass rush in a division with Peyton Manning and Matt Schaub. The Jaguars managed only 26 sacks last season. Kerrigan had almost half that (121/2) last fall at Purdue.
(Team needs: DE, S, LB, QB)

17th pick: New England Patriots
Cameron Jordan -- DE, California
The Patriots are likely to trade out of this spot. But Jordan here could be an inducement to stay put. He’s a 3-4 end who fits the size prototype (6-4, 287) Bill Belichick covets. Bigger is always better in New England.
(Team needs: OL, DE, OLB, HB)

18th pick: San Diego Chargers
Corey Liuget -- DT, Illinois
Liuget was a dominant inside player in a 4-3 scheme in the Big Ten. The Chargers envision him playing the edge in their 3-4 scheme. He has excellent hands, a necessity for head-up combat with offensive tackles.
(Team needs: OT, ILB, WR, pass rusher)

19th pick: New York Giants
Nate Solder -- OT, Colorado
Like the Cowboys, the Giants need to get younger on the offensive line. Solder is the best blind-side protector in this draft, and he’s going to get better. He’s only played the position for three years.
(Team needs: OT, G, LB, KR)

20th pick: Tampa Bay Buccaneers
Robert Quinn -- DE, North Carolina
The Bucs have the worst pass rush in the NFC — just 26 sacks in 521 pass attempts. Quinn is the best edge pass rusher on the board. But his stock slid this draft season because of a bout with cancer in high school.
(Team needs: G, pass rusher, CB, OT)

21st pick: Kansas City Chiefs
Gabe Carimi -- OT, Wisconsin
The Chiefs want to get bigger, tougher and younger up front. KC has one of the NFL’s best runners in Jamaal Charles — and Carimi has spent a career blocking in one of the best run-oriented offenses in college football.
(Team needs: DT, C, WR, QB)

22nd pick: Indianapolis Colts
Anthony Castonzo -- OT, Boston College
Because of the run of quarterbacks at the top, a lot of quality players slid, including Castonzo, CB Prince Amukamara and DE J.J. Watt. As long as Peyton Manning is in Indy, the priority will be protecting him.
(Team needs: KR, def. size, QB, LB, OL)

23rd pick: Philadelphia Eagles
Jimmy Smith -- CB, Colorado
If the Eagles are to continue their dominance in the NFC East, they must find someone who can cover Dez Byrant. Mission accomplished. Smith is the biggest and perhaps most talented cover corner in this draft.
(Team needs: DL, OL, CB, LB)

24th pick: New Orleans Saints
Adrian Clayborn -- DE, Iowa
You have to stop the run to survive in a division with DeAngelo Williams, Michael Turner and LaGarrette Blount. So the Saints need some big bodies up front to bolster the NFL’s 16th-ranked run defense.
(Team needs: DE, DT, LB, S)

25th pick: Seattle Seahawks
Prince Amukamara -- CB, Nebraska
The Seahawks need help for the NFL’s 27th-ranked pass defense, and Amukamara represents sliding value. He has the size (6-0, 206) to line up against physical wideouts Larry Fitzgerald and Michael Crabtree in the NFC West.
(Team needs: OT, G, C, QB)

26th pick: Baltimore Ravens
J.J. Watt -- DE, Wisconsin
Another sliding value. Watt headed into the process touted as the best end for a 3-4 scheme — and he falls into the lap of a top-10 defense. Good players tend to find the Ravens wherever they are on the draft board.
(Team needs: CB, WR, pass rusher, OT)

27th pick: Atlanta Falcons
Phil Taylor -- DT, Baylor
Same synopsis as New Orleans above. You need bulk up front to compete in a division that wants to run the football — and Taylor is one of the bulkiest players in this draft at 334 pounds.
(Team needs: OL, NT, WR, LB)

28th pick: New England Patriots
Danny Watkins -- G, Baylor
Watkins is the safest pick in the entire draft — the one player you can confidently say will be in the Pro Bowl in 2012. He’s the best guard on the board, and some NFL teams were looking at him as both a center and tackle.
(Team needs: OL, DE, OLB, HB)

29th pick: Chicago Bears
Marvin Austin -- DT, North Carolina
The Bears need an elite tackle to replace departed Pro Bowler Tommie Harris . Austin missed the 2010 season because of an NCAA suspension but plays with great power and a great motor. A top-10 defense just got better.
(Team needs: LB, DT, RB, QB)

30th pick: New York Jets
Derrick Sherrod -- OT, Mississippi State
There are only five offensive tackles in this draft who can walk in as starters and Sherrod is the last one. He started three years at left tackle at Mississippi State but projects as a right tackle in the NFL.
(Team needs: CB, OL, WR)

31st pick: Pittsburgh Steelers
Cameron Heyward -- DE, Ohio State
The Steelers need to get younger at end in their 3-4 scheme, and Heyward provides them that opportunity. He’s a high achiever — a four-year starter, team captain and MVP of a Big Ten championship team.
(Team needs: 2 CB, DE, OT)

32nd pick: Green Bay Packers
Aaron Williams -- CB, Texas
The Super Bowl champions have one of the youngest teams in the NFL and few needs. They are in a position to draft the best player on their board. That’s Williams, who can play either cornerback or safety.
(Team needs: DL, OL, pass rusher, CB)

Team with no first-round pick
48th pick: Oakland Raiders
Dontay Moch -- DE, Nevada
built the Raiders on power and speed in the 1960s and clings to that philosophy a half-century later. Moch is the fastest pass rusher in this draft with 4.46 speed in the 40.
(Team needs: OL, DL, pass rusher, speed)
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I would be pi$$ed if we took Smith over Prince or Quin.

I have gotten to the point in my mind where Aldon Smith is worst case scenario.
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I would be pi$$ed if we took Smith over Prince or Quin.

I have gotten to the point in my mind where Aldon Smith is worst case scenario.
And I'd be pi$$ed if we took Prince over anybody. Quinn I'm indifferent about and I don't dislike Smith as much as everybody here.
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And I'd be pi$$ed if we took Prince over anybody. Quinn I'm indifferent about and I don't dislike Smith as much as everybody here.
Yeah, for some reason - of the most often discussed candidates, Prince excites me the least (and fwiw, this is coming from an Omaha born, big time Cornhusker fan). I think there's actually a decent chance we trade up (Arizona's 5th spot would be my guess) and take Peterson, and I like that idea a lot. Prince at the 11th spot, not so much.

If we stay at 11, there's several I'd be okay with. Smith, Quinn, Watt, even Cam Jordan or Julio Jones would be fine. It's nothing more than a gut feeling and the collection of opinions from sources I respect, but Prince is definitely my "Do not want" pick for 2011.
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#1 - Newton
#2 - Miller
#3 - Dareus
#4 - Green
#5 - Peterson
#6 - Jones
#7 - Gabbert
#8 - Locker
#9 - Tyron Smith
#10 - Ponder
#11 - Aldon Smith
#12 - Dalton
#13 - Fairley
#14 - Ingram
#15 - Pouncey
#16 - Kerrigan
#17 - Jordan
#18 - Liuget
#19 - Solder
#20 - Quinn
#21 - Carimi
#22 - Castonzo
#23 - Smith
#24 - Clayborn
#25 - Amukamara
#26 - Watt
#27 - Taylor
#28 - Watkins
#29 - Austin
#30 - Sherrod
#31 - Heyward
#32 - Williams
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I'd hate to see Titans get Locker, as he looks best longer term to me.

Prince dropping to 25th, hmmm ...... trade up?

5 QBs in top 12!!!
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I'd hate to see Titans get Locker, as he looks best longer term to me.

Prince dropping to 25th, hmmm ...... trade up?

5 QBs in top 12!!!
I think one of OLB's would have more immediate and longterm impact than Prince and that's who I would target in a trade up to late 1st round. This also assumes we don't go Quinn/Smith at 11.
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