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Old 04-12-2011   #21
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You know, the owner of the Saints made a big push to move that team to San Antonio or LA just after hurricane Katrina, right?
Yes, I did. And guess what? It did not happen.

Jerry Jones and Bob McNair would never, ever allow it.

The Cowboys have the DFW and San Antonio Markets; The Texans have Houston and Austin, and is trying to get back Beaumont-Port Arthur from the Cowboys and capture The Valley (home of a couple million people).
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Old 04-13-2011   #22
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Here are the Top 10 Media MArkets according to Nielson: http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/...-dma-ranks.pdf. Media markets do not go by overall area population. It's why Atlanta is ahead of Houston on the list.
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Thanks for the response guys.

from what i get there are a few pieces that make the entire puzzle.

it would be interesting to see what happens when we win some playoff games or create some sort of dynasty (easy guys just an example lol)

but i guess, if Houston fans look it from one point of view, maybe its a good thing we have fans just from Houston (and down under), it could give us a more tight nit and passionate fan base like its an "us against the rest" mentality.


and now that i think about it do we "need" that national exposure, the franchise is already one of the richest, with great facilities, top stadium, sell out games, the best tailgating and great fans....what more do we want.............(maybe a team to reach the same levels as the pervious mentioned things lol)

in the end.....GO TEXANS!!!
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In general, winning will bring fans. But I think market size means less in the NFL than other sports. Green Bay is a miniscule market, but they have a nationwide fanbase. Dallas and Pittsburgh are the same way, with fans in nearly every city. Look at those teams' attendance figures for road games -- or just think what Reliant looks like when we are playing those teams.

More than anything it's about winning. New Orleans is exhibit 'A.' No one outside of Louisiana watched the Saints until Brees got there.
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Thanks for the response guys.

from what i get there are a few pieces that make the entire puzzle.

it would be interesting to see what happens when we win some playoff games or create some sort of dynasty (easy guys just an example lol)

but i guess, if Houston fans look it from one point of view, maybe its a good thing we have fans just from Houston (and down under), it could give us a more tight nit and passionate fan base like its an "us against the rest" mentality.


and now that i think about it do we "need" that national exposure, the franchise is already one of the richest, with great facilities, top stadium, sell out games, the best tailgating and great fans....what more do we want.............(maybe a team to reach the same levels as the pervious mentioned things lol)

in the end.....GO TEXANS!!!
Aussie, don't forget about me. I am from Japan. Even with quake and all, I still have a heart for the Texans!!! The best way to keep my mind away from quake is talk about something you love the most.
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Aussie, don't forget about me. I am from Japan. Even with quake and all, I still have a heart for the Texans!!! The best way to keep my mind away from quake is talk about something you love the most.
yeah sorry mate, hope all is getting better and there is encouraging signs for you guys.

also its good to know that someone else is in a similar timezone and has to get up early on monday mornings to watch the games lol
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the reason we don't get any pub, is because we don't deserve it.

we got a flatlining coach, flatlining players, and a buffoon for an owner.

we don't take any chances, we aren't endearing or controversial, and WE DON'T WIN.

maybe lets try and win a game that actually matters. when the Texans get presented with 'the biggest game in team history', what happens? yeah, that s right. They fall on their collective ass every damn time.
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the reason we don't get any pub, is because we don't deserve it.
QFT. It is pointless to waste gloss on losers, because nobody will watch it.

People want to see winners, regardless of the size of the market that these teams come from. ESPN and NFLN are responding to what people want at the end of the day.
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i dont no we got alot of coverage when AJ beat down on FInney LOL

and when Garrard Throw a Game winning Hail mary ..... :P

we get coverage when we seem to choke the last 40 seconds of da game week in and week out
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yeah sorry mate, hope all is getting better and there is encouraging signs for you guys.

also its good to know that someone else is in a similar timezone and has to get up early on monday mornings to watch the games lol
It's OK. Yeah, I know the feeling. Every Monday mornings during football season lol

Go Texans!!!
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The Cowboys have the DFW and San Antonio Markets; The Texans have Houston and Austin, and is trying to get back Beaumont-Port Arthur from the Cowboys and capture The Valley (home of a couple million people).
Is that the same Austin where the Texans are (were) preempted by Titans games?
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This whole thread is a bunch of mularkey. We get plenty of pub. On NFL network during the total access show in the main studio..Guess who's in the highlight reel on the screen behind rich eisen reeling in a TD & walking into the end zone? Yup, our very own Kevin Walter baby!

& then if you watch long enough on the other screen behind Trent Green ( i guess) guess who else is on the TV in the highlight reel? Yup Arian Foster high stepping into the zone on the colts from wk. 1.

Lol...
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I think, Aussie's original question is why we don't get more coverage from ESPN and NFL network. Now, geographic size(population density) of the market is what Bill posted(nice job Bill). But, market can fluctuate by popularity of the team.(If you look the Texans as a product) I believe, The Oilers (Luv ya Blue era) had more fans than Texans and we had more follower in Texas(outside of Houston market) if I recall right. (I used live in Houston during this era)

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Thats a simple answer - East coast , West coast Media Bias. Hell , even the govt shows bias - look who got all the retired space shuttles .....
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Thats a simple answer - East coast , West coast Media Bias. Hell , even the govt shows bias - look who got all the retired space shuttles .....
Oh man Corrosion, don't even bring up the space shuttles thing. I am so pissed about how the whole thing went down. It's just bull sxxx! (I am trying to keep my mind off from this subject) And yeah, current market situation is like you mentioned. To improve current situation, is to gain more market share by winning and appear in the playoffs on regular bases and that is all am saying.

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Those were the good times to be a Football fan in Houston .... damn if they didnt end in failure.

**** **** **** **** I hate the ****ing Pittsburgh ****ing Steelers. I hate them more than the ****ing Yankees , more than a ****ing Yankee's ****ing Redsocks game. I hate them more than the ****ing Jazz & the ****ing Lakers and the ****ing Boston Celtics too.


Did I mention I hate the ****ing Pittsburgh ****ing Steelers?



...... Still luv ya blue.


Only some of those *'s , were F-Bombs. For the rest , use your imagination.
Meh, I'm an equal opportunity hater... I hate them ALL equally!!! Except that your forgot the Dodgers. Remember those days!??!?!?
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Thats a simple answer - East coast , West coast Media Bias. Hell , even the govt shows bias - look who got all the retired space shuttles .....
Yup!!! Actually, I see us eventually losing NASA as a whole, not unlike losing the Goodyear Blimp up north of Houston. (Spring IIRC, off 45).
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Im just dumbfounded as to why they have left NASA here in Houston as long as they have. I expected them to move it to California or Florida long ago.




From the thread in the NSZ on the shuttle ....
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You bunch of candy asses need to quit bitching about getting national attention you don't deserve! The only thing about us that the nation should pay attention to is oil and the border, now pay for your damn tickets and shut up. GO!
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You bunch of candy asses need to quit bitching about getting national attention you don't deserve! The only thing about us that the nation should pay attention to is oil and the border, now pay for your damn tickets and shut up. GO!
i dont think anyone here is complaining if anything they are more understanding of that fact.

i asked a question because i don't have the means to get the answer here and everyone responded with their opinion
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i dont think anyone here is complaining if anything they are more understanding of that fact.

i asked a question because i don't have the means to get the answer here and everyone responded with their opinion
Sorry man, I was being facetious. I'm still pissed about having to pay for tickets to a season that's looking like it probably won't happen.
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