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Old 04-17-2005   #21
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Each has its place, but for me.. RB is more important then WR.
You're missing my point. To a degree a RB is more important because he will always touch the ball more than a WR will. BUT, AJ is special--not just #3 special, but special period. So long as he is with the Texans, he will be the focus of the opposition. Sure a good running game will help him, but IMO he is that special/good that it will take a Payton/Smith/Sanders to take the focus off him and frankly that is just unrealistic. So, let's enjoy a solid/cheap back and watching AJ beat double coverage.
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Old 04-17-2005   #22
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only thing I can comment on and nothing against DD... but why is it that when he has a good game ..we most likely lose? (i.e. he handles the ball a bunch)
Because the Texans haven't had a very good team the past 2 years? Think of Davis what you will, but you can't hang a loss on him for having a good game. San Diego was 17-31 in Tomlinson's 1st 3 seasons. He had plenty of good games during losses.

Why is Davis getting the touches? Because a) Carr doesn't have time to look downfield and dumps it to DD & b) Palmer doesn't have confidence in the pass protection and calls running plays on 2nd & long. It all comes back to getting guys blocked.

Is Davis the type of back who can carry a team to the playoffs? No. But there aren't a lot of guys like that in the league, period. Actually, I can't think of even one. And there's not one in this draft, either. But Davis isn't going to lose games for you (unless those fumbles resurface). He could certainly use some help to lessen the load, but Domanick doesn't need to be replaced.
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He could certainly use some help to lessen the load, but Domanick doesn't need to be replaced.
Agree. Davis has been a great pick.
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Because the Texans haven't had a very good team the past 2 years? Think of Davis what you will, but you can't hang a loss on him for having a good game. San Diego was 17-31 in Tomlinson's 1st 3 seasons. He had plenty of good games during losses.

Why is Davis getting the touches? Because a) Carr doesn't have time to look downfield and dumps it to DD & b) Palmer doesn't have confidence in the pass protection and calls running plays on 2nd & long. It all comes back to getting guys blocked.

Is Davis the type of back who can carry a team to the playoffs? No. But there aren't a lot of guys like that in the league, period. Actually, I can't think of even one. And there's not one in this draft, either. But Davis isn't going to lose games for you (unless those fumbles resurface). He could certainly use some help to lessen the load, but Domanick doesn't need to be replaced.

agreed... but he isn't a back to make a defense change their gameplan either.. we have seen this for 2 years.. AJ is doubled and no matter what DD does they still play the cover 2 ..Defenses don't fear DD beating them.. that is the bottom line
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agreed... but he isn't a back to make a defense change their gameplan either...
But how many backs do that, anyway? LT, maybe Portis, Jamal Lewis if healthy? Put guys like Shaun Alexander, or even Priest Holmes on the Texans and that doesn't automatically punch their ticket to the playoffs. These guys are in balanced offenses with solid lines. What kind of numbers do they get on the Texans?

Teams have won with backs much worse than Davis & teams have lost with better backs. But teams that can't protect the QB don't win. Fix that and a lot of these questions regarding Davis & the #2 WR go away.
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DD is built a lot like Emmitt Smith. Everyone said the same things about both.Too small, too short, too light, can't take the pounding. Emmitt Smith ran all of his critics(and a lot of defenses) in the ground. EVERY NFL player plays through injuries.The great ones don't just play(or sit out), they EXCELL when hurt. How many times have we seen a great athlete with an injury or illness come out and have a career day? DD has the potential to be a great back in this league, but does he have the heart and desire? That makes all the difference in the world.
With about 50% of the offense going thru DD, I'd have to say that oppossing defenses are well aware of where he is on the field. DD is a damned good back. I just wonder about his ability/desire to play through pain. Big difference between pain and injury.

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I feel he has the desire to just not the ahtletisism to. the man goes out there and plays his heart out and im not questioning that i like davis alot. but im not convinced either if hes goin to be a great, but with that said i dont think teams look for him on the feild as much as AJ and we all know the Jags didnt when he tore it up for wat 203 yards total offense from line of scrimmage? but yea i agree teams know where he is
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What is it that Mark Twain said about statistics?

DD has a good YPC, but I view him as merely an average back. His statistics are skewed IMO. Teams are basically going to a Cover 2 and rolling a double-team to AJ. They are essentially going with a long pass prevention defense. They are encouraging us to run. This results in a nice average for DD, but fewer big plays in either the rushing game or the passing game. Essentially teams are letting us move between the 30's. We get some nice yardage totals, but we fail to turn those into scores frequently enough. The defensive plan has worked on the average. Why else would so many teams employee it against us?
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yah true i agree to an extent but i dont think that DD isnt just useless either like whats the point with havin any other bak behind out o line at this point and if there runnin the defense u just said wat bak would perform any better than DD
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yah true i agree to an extent but i dont think that DD isnt just useless either like whats the point with havin any other bak behind out o line at this point and if there runnin the defense u just said wat bak would perform any better than DD
HUH?? I don't understand what you said.
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haha sry typing to fast wat im sayin is, what does it matter if its DD or Portis behind our O Line, and with the defense theorge explained if it were portis gettin good ypc but still unable to turn it into 6. thats what im sayin, doesnt matter if it were DD or portis still would be in the same position till our line picks up better runblockin and our offese either 1 finds a better 2nd wr threat. 2 is less predictable or 3 we sign ealr cammble lol or how ever u spell it
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I see said the blind man. And mostly agree with it.
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Hope that sums it up a bit haha
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Yeah, it does. I'm really looking forward to this season. IMO, we will show marked improvement on O. EVEN THE LINE!!!!! Remember...it's a 5 yr plan, not a 4 yr plan.
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i see the O-Line having a solid year, and about half way through the season seeing most of you say "i knew it all along" about Davis. You know we can talk about how we need a WR to take pressure off of A.J or how we need a running back to do it. The fact is why do you think we gave up so many passing yards last season ? Its because our D-Line could never get any pressure and QBs would pick us apart. We will have the same result once Carr gets consistent time to throw the ball. So bringing in another RB wont do much, if any good. So we need to stick with what we have, plus a year ago werent people saying we might have the next great trio in Carr, AJ and DD like Dallas had in Aikman, Smith, Irvin ???
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