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Old 03-24-2011   #1
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Default You're being interviewed for the Detroit Lions...

Early 2009.

The GM/owner (whoever) asks you how long it would take you to make that a playoff team, what would you tell him?

Remember, the Packers are up & comers at this time, not the hands down favorite to reach the Super Bowl, the Bears look dysfunctional & on a downward slide, and the Vikings look like the teAm to beat.

You don't have Ndamakung Suh, & though you have the first pick in the draft, at the time of this interview, it isn't guaranteed Suh would be that pick.

So, "Im very interested in having you coach my team. How long would it be before you would have my team in the play-offs?"
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So, "Im very interested in having you coach my team. How long would it be before you would have my team in the play-offs?"
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Playoffs? Playoffs? You gotta be kidding me? Playoffs?

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You've got the years mixed up. The Lions drafted Matthew Stafford #1 in 2009 and Ndamukong Suh #2 in 2010.
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I don't know, but my real plan is to let this team continue to suck until I get fired and am offered a lesser position with a better team. Eventually, I will be the HC of that other team....or another good team. That way, I get what I want and the Lions don't lose anything....because, you know....you suck already...
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5 years at least....
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Default Re: You're being interviewed for the Detroit Lions...

5 years.

There's a lot that needs to be fixed and we've got to change a culture that's been around for a long time.
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Default Re: You're being interviewed for the Detroit Lions...

I wouldn't hire any potential coach that told me 5 years. Interview would be over. That would tell me that the coach is a loser with a poor ambition, and unfortunately that's the same thinking Gary Kubiak had when he was hired.

I'd tell the GM that we're probably looking at 3 years, but if things bounce the right way and we can over achieve some, then 2 years wouldn't be out of the question since quick turn arounds happen a lot more frequently than people especially in here like to give credit for. I'd tell the GM that we'd be out there playing very competitive football and that the culture was going to completely change there and the Lions would no longer look like a bunch of jokes and that they'd be feared after one season and that any player or coaches on the staff that can't move as fast as I expect to and roll with the pace that I'd be setting for this team's turn around and potential run at the SB would be getting possibly traded or shipped out of there for players who are ready to make a run.
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Default Re: You're being interviewed for the Detroit Lions...

The Lions are on the right track if Stafford would just stay healthy.
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I would say 3, but in my mind I would be thinking 4. Turnarounds can happen quickly in the NFL, but the Lions had a lot of suckitude back then.
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I would say 3, but in my mind I would be thinking 4. Turnarounds can happen quickly in the NFL, but the Lions had a lot of suckitude back then.
I don't think they are like that anymore and ought to continue to improve.
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Default Re: You're being interviewed for the Detroit Lions...

If I was the GM or owner of the 2008 0-16 Lions and someone told me less than 4 years, I'd think they were a liar just trying to feed me some sunshine to get a job. Or maybe brain damaged.

It had been 9 years since that team had been to the playoffs and 8 years since their last winning record. They were coming off the worst season in NFL history.

Even 4 years would be optimistic to me. 5 years is doable but doubtful.
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I don't think they are like that anymore and ought to continue to improve.
Yeah, they're not like that 2 years removed from the 0-16 season but the question is how long would you expect it to take to build a playoff team from the 2008 Lions... not the 2010 Lions.
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I'd look at them square in the eye, tilt my head to the side, raise my arms so they outstretched to either side and say,

What’s that? Ah — Playoffs? Don’t talk about — playoffs? You kidding me? Playoffs? I just hope we can win a game!

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If I was the GM or owner of the 2008 0-16 Lions and someone told me less than 4 years, I'd think they were a liar just trying to feed me some sunshine to get a job. Or maybe brain damaged.

It had been 9 years since that team had been to the playoffs and 8 years since their last winning record. They were coming off the worst season in NFL history.

Even 4 years would be optimistic to me. 5 years is doable but doubtful.
And see that's the problem with a lot of Texans fans. It's a "it will take a decade" mentality to find success and possibly greatness attitude that simply is an under achieving mind set. It's been proven time and time again that you can turn a team around in the NFL if you get the right coach in place and who can make enough off season moves to fill holes and have a good draft and more importantly change the attitude and the grit of an entire team. Teams have been changed from horrible offenses or horrible defenses into very good ones in one off season. It just depends on what changes are made and what new personal gets added. But to have a mentality that it takes 4 to 5 years on the quick end is like living in the stone age of the NFL.

And what the Lions did 6 or 7 years prior to the new coach coming in is completely irrelevant. That just tells that there has been a losing culture there for a while, but the only thing that really matters is what is there now and what needs to be done from last season to this first season for the new coach. Changing the culture of being a loser into a team with a ton of confidence is the first thing that needs to be done and every coach isn't capable of that. Some are and that's exactly why teams like the Chiefs and the Saints turned their teams around very quickly and over achieved. Taking a bottom feeder and turning it into a playoff team can be done pretty fast with a good HC/GM and staff that won't accept losing and has high goals from the start.
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I don't think they are like that anymore and ought to continue to improve.
The prompt is set a couple years in the past. I think the Lions have a real shot at the playoffs not this upcoming year, but the one after.
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Things can turn very quickly for teams in the NFL.

The Texans weer supposed to make the play-offs a few years ago when Capers was still the coach. An up and coming team can become a bottom feeder just as quickly as an 0-16 team can become a contender.

2-3 years is a long time to get a team to reach the play-offs. Especially in a division where there is no team that is consistently dominant.
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Yeah, they're not like that 2 years removed from the 0-16 season but the question is how long would you expect it to take to build a playoff team from the 2008 Lions... not the 2010 Lions.
Yhea, but they are making great strides in just about two years. If they sign a top tier free agent or two and have a good draft then you just never know this year if there is any football.
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Yhea, but they are making great strides in just about two years. If they sign a top tier free agent or two and have a good draft then you just never know this year if there is any football.
Good point.

I could easily see Detroit making the play-offs next year as a wild card
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Good point.

I could easily see Detroit making the play-offs next year as a wild card
Just think if Stafford stays under center as well.
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I'd tell them that I could have the Lions in the playoffs within three years or.... if the owner thought we were on the right track (stop laughing) and believed in what I was doing I'd coach the fourth year for a token salary of a dollar or something like that.

That's assuming I had what I thought was the necessary input into personnel decisions and/or believed in the GM/owner who was hiring me. I think that no truly competent coach with a capable and determined owner/GM should take longer than 3 years to win with a team. Sure there are teams that win but still miss the playoffs but I think if you're winning 10 games by year 3 you're pretty much there.
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And see that's the problem with a lot of Texans fans. It's a "it will take a decade" mentality to find success and possibly greatness attitude that simply is an under achieving mind set. It's been proven time and time again that you can turn a team around in the NFL if you get the right coach in place and who can make enough off season moves to fill holes and have a good draft and more importantly change the attitude and the grit of an entire team. Teams have been changed from horrible offenses or horrible defenses into very good ones in one off season. It just depends on what changes are made and what new personal gets added. But to have a mentality that it takes 4 to 5 years on the quick end is like living in the stone age of the NFL.

And what the Lions did 6 or 7 years prior to the new coach coming in is completely irrelevant. That just tells that there has been a losing culture there for a while, but the only thing that really matters is what is there now and what needs to be done from last season to this first season for the new coach. Changing the culture of being a loser into a team with a ton of confidence is the first thing that needs to be done and every coach isn't capable of that. Some are and that's exactly why teams like the Chiefs and the Saints turned their teams around very quickly and over achieved. Taking a bottom feeder and turning it into a playoff team can be done pretty fast with a good HC/GM and staff that won't accept losing and has high goals from the start.
There are so many things that you've written here that I disagree with that we'll just have to agree to disagree.

But I just wanted to say this about the bolded part.

How can a fan's attitude be a problem? My attitude isn't what caused us to go 6-10 last season. My attitude means absolutely nothing. Do you think that if everyone felt the way you did and all of us Texan fans were beating the "Fire Kubiak" drum 2-3 years ago that we'd have a winning team here now? Do you think that every coach should be given 2 years and then fired if they're not in the playoffs? Really?
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