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Old 03-25-2011   #161
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Yeah, for some reason there is still a crew in here that tries to use this same line and excuse every off season for Smithiaknair saying that we don't know what they're doing and we have no idea who they might have talked to and that's just straight bull. I read Rotoworld regularly and they report every single thing imaginable with every NFL team there is. That's their job. The Texans are practically ghosts on those main sites that report stuff. I know who the main teams are that are constantly moving and shaking and trying to improve their teams. It's all over the place if you just study what's going on with the NFL and know where to look.

The fact is that we have probably the worst GM in the league that should have never became a GM and he's just Kubiak's boy. Smith has never shown himself to be a savvy negotiator with other teams. He's very comfortable building through the draft and they've only said that like 100 times over the last 5 years. To keep saying that "we don't know" is just "excuse building" at this point for a regime that still hasn't delivered that some folks still think can deliver, but under these tactics or lack thereof I'd say, it's a horribly flawed strategy that will get us nowhere.
Yeah because inorder for that strategy to work you gotta draft real well too!
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Honestly, I think that if the Texans were offering all these players they would make it known.

I don't recall them being super secretive when bringing in Bodden last year...
Actual visits are one thing. Who they try to talk to or bring in is an entirely different proposition.

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Maybe they wouldn't disclose the details of what is being offered, but I really don't see why they would be so secretive about who they are going after...
No maybe about it. The amounts offered by competing teams are almost never reported. Being secretive is pretty much SOP around the league. When was the last time you saw a report that team X called the agent for player Y and he said hell no Y doesn't want to play for you?

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You have spun this same excuse on behalf of the Texans management for over three years now and probably longer than that before I got here. It's the same typical excuse over and over like Groundhog Day. This whole "We don't know what they have tried or not tried" is really tiring and actually false, because it's very well known what teams all over the league are doing.
Step away from your Smithiak haterade rants. What I am saying isn't specific to the Texans and I think you are dead wrong that it is well known what teams all over the league are doing. Some information leaks out. A lot of what is reported is just rank speculation like McClain saying Okoye will probably be traded without referencing any Texans' source. I believe all around the league fans end up hearing about 10% or less of the moves/contacts attempted by teams. Disagree if you want but don't try to spin it off to satisfy your desire to turn everything into a comment about Smithiak because my comments had zilch to do with them specifically.
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When was the last time you saw a report that team X called the agent for player Y and he said hell no Y doesn't want to play for you?
Well there was the Eli Manning thing...There are also players who demand trades...

I think that is different though. If an agent were to do that it'd only decrease the asking price for his player...Teams that the player would like to play for would gain a little more leverage.

I don't think that they would come out and lay all their cards on the table...They'd more likely use said team to get a better offer from the team they really want to play for.
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Yeah, for some reason there is still a crew in here that tries to use this same line and excuse every off season for Smithiaknair saying that we don't know what they're doing and we have no idea who they might have talked to and that's just straight bull. I read Rotoworld regularly and they report every single thing imaginable with every NFL team there is. That's their job. The Texans are practically ghosts on those main sites that report stuff. I know who the main teams are that are constantly moving and shaking and trying to improve their teams. It's all over the place if you just study what's going on with the NFL and know where to look.

The fact is that we have probably the worst GM in the league that should have never became a GM and he's just Kubiak's boy. Smith has never shown himself to be a savvy negotiator with other teams. He's very comfortable building through the draft and they've only said that like 100 times over the last 5 years. To keep saying that "we don't know" is just "excuse building" at this point for a regime that still hasn't delivered that some folks still think can deliver, but under these tactics or lack thereof I'd say, it's a horribly flawed strategy that will get us nowhere.

Here's where you are wrong:

1. Rotoworld- Is entirely dependent on other news sources. All it does is collect them. The lack of hits it has on the Texans only indicates sports news coverage, particularly local coverage, is less than other teams. If you've been around for awhile, you know that is the case. We have one person in Houston print media covering the Texans and he only does that when it is convenient.

2. Rick Smith is not the worst GM in the league- that is either ignorant or filled with bias. He certainly got the job, in part at least, because of his relationship with Kubiak. Examples indicating that he's not the worst GM in football: his handling of the Owen Daniels contract negotiations the past two years, the 2009 draft and UDFA (Arian Foster) and the ability to find quality players from the scrap heap (Mike Brisiel, Rashod Butler, Vonta Leach, Chris Myers, Joel Dreessen...) With only one winning season under his belt, it's clear he's been far from the best GM in the NFL. I also share your concern that his lack of real power is a structural problem for the Texans.

You would have us believe that the Gary Kubiak and Rick Smith took over the worst franchise in the NFL and turned that disaster into a mediocre team despite being the worst coach and worst GM in football. So, I guess you think the Texans are very lucky then?
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I think that is different though. If an agent were to do that it'd only decrease the asking price for his player...Teams that the player would like to play for would gain a little more leverage.

I don't think that they would come out and lay all their cards on the table...They'd more likely use said team to get a better offer from the team they really want to play for.
This touches on something else I thought about putting in above - agents deal with the teams all the time. They can't afford to piss them off too badly. Plus the GM's talk about who they think has screwed them. Sure agents will strategically leak at times but I think the idea that even a majority of interest/contacts gets reported is just flat out incorrect.
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Here's where you are wrong:

1. Rotoworld- Is entirely dependent on other news sources. All it does is collect them. The lack of hits it has on the Texans only indicates sports news coverage, particularly local coverage, is less than other teams. If you've been around for awhile, you know that is the case. We have one person in Houston print media covering the Texans and he only does that when it is convenient.
It's one of the fastest sources to gain information about what takes place around the web on the NFL. Whether it gets it's information from other sources doesn't really matter. No one has 500 football and team sites that they can look at every day, but Rotoworld does and it collects that info and reports it and that's why it's a great news site for football, because it's a one stop shop for information as to what's going on with every team and every player practically if there is any news to report.


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2. Rick Smith is not the worst GM in the league- that is either ignorant or filled with bias. He certainly got the job, in part at least, because of his relationship with Kubiak. Examples indicating that he's not the worst GM in football: his handling of the Owen Daniels contract negotiations the past two years, the 2009 draft and UDFA (Arian Foster) and the ability to find quality players from the scrap heap (Mike Brisiel, Rashod Butler, Vonta Leach, Chris Myers, Joel Dreessen...) With only one winning season under his belt, it's clear he's been far from the best GM in the NFL. I also share your concern that his lack of real power is a structural problem for the Texans.
This is by far one of the worst lists you could provide to make an argument for Rick Smith. His drafting skills aren't good at all really, and his signings are the definition of "meh". He doesn't go out there and make any successful trades, he doesn't establish great relationships with the top agents around the league or the other players for that matter. Practically half the decisions and stuff that he gets paid for is stuff that Kubiak has his hands on any way. SMith really doesn't even need to be employeed here with as much emphasis as Gary has. The fact that Smith even draws a salary is laughable.

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You would have us believe that the Gary Kubiak and Rick Smith took over the worst franchise in the NFL and turned that disaster into a mediocre team despite being the worst coach and worst GM in football. So, I guess you think the Texans are very lucky then?
Why is it that you still act like that's some sort of success? Lol!!! I've got news for you, it's not. So Rick Smith and Gary Kubiak took over a team that was a bottom feeder. I get it. You've mentioned this over and over for years. But guess what? They've still done nothing since they've gotten here and it's 5 YEARS LATER. I know that you think that winning 6 games is some major improvement, but it wasn't. Teams around the league make 4 game win improvements all of the time. Going from 6-10 to 8-8 wasn't much of an improvement either and I can't believe that anyone thought 9-7 was something to cheer for after two years of 8-8. Smithiak has been the epitome of one step forward-two steps back since they've been here and established themselves as easy pickings around the rest of the NFL even when they have games in the bag. The only successful thing that Smithiak has been able to do here is stay in Mcnair's good graces.
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Actual visits are one thing. Who they try to talk to or bring in is an entirely different proposition.



No maybe about it. The amounts offered by competing teams are almost never reported. Being secretive is pretty much SOP around the league. When was the last time you saw a report that team X called the agent for player Y and he said hell no Y doesn't want to play for you?
Those types of reports come out quite frequently.



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Step away from your Smithiak haterade rants.
I don't think there is any such thing as a "haterade" rant when we're talking about a duo of HC and GM that have accomplished nothing but fail together. That's speaking on fact and truth. It's not "hating."

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What I am saying isn't specific to the Texans and I think you are dead wrong that it is well known what teams all over the league are doing. Some information leaks out.
All you have to do is pay attention around the league and not read about just the Texans dude. When free agents are out there shopping themselves around there are always reports about what teams they've talked to or what teams are interested and making pitches at them. Then when they sign contracts there are more reports about why they didn't sign with this team or that team from either them or the teams themselves. There are also reports about what teams are trying to trade with whom and what they're looking for or who they're trying to shop. This stuff gets reported, and sure every single thing in the world may not be out there to be read and disected on every detail, but the majority of it gets reported if it has any legs to it. I don't know if you just pay attention to just the Texans, but I pay attention to the entire league because I have to it's not hard to see who the main teams are that are constantly making moves. The Texans are hardly ever reported on for doing anything or even trying really.

Every off season you make these same arguments for Smithiak acting like they're being so smart by being conservative and they've got probably a ton of things shaking, but they're just this one organization in the NFL that keeps it as top secret, yet at the end of the off season we don't really do anything and at the end of the season it's proven to have been a fail of a season again where off season moves could have been made to change things.

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A lot of what is reported is just rank speculation like McClain saying Okoye will probably be traded without referencing any Texans' source. I believe all around the league fans end up hearing about 10% or less of the moves/contacts attempted by teams. Disagree if you want but don't try to spin it off to satisfy your desire to turn everything into a comment about Smithiak because my comments had zilch to do with them specifically.
I don't have to spin. The lack of moves since SMithiak has been here us pure proof of that. The lack of reports that we're ever doing anything is proof of that. They've said themselves "We like to build through the draft." That's their approach. How many times do they have to say it and only do it that way for you to stop acting like we've got the most secretive team in the league that just knows how to keep the public from knowing any of the secret war plans from Smithiak? I mean come on. We don't have some sort of top notch Skull And Bones society of scouts and minions that work for Rick Smith that know how to negotiate and do under the table deals that are to top secret to get reported ever. Since Smithiak arrived here they've stated that building through the draft is their thing and they've stuck by it.
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I see both sides, but I'm leaning more with Tex on this one...

I just think that if the Texans were active in Free agency we'd have heard more about it. I just can't see them going after all these "phantom players" and not so much as causing a ripple...
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I don't think there is any such thing as a "haterade" rant when we're talking about a duo of HC and GM that have accomplished nothing but fail together. That's speaking on fact and truth. It's not "hating."
When you interpret generic comments about the league as the whole as a defense of Smithiak it is haterade.

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All you have to do is pay attention around the league and not read about just the Texans dude. When free agents are out there shopping themselves around there are always reports about what teams they've talked to or what teams are interested and making pitches at them.
Yeah, I don't pay attention to anything but the Texans - LOL. You assume there are always reports for every contact. I think that assumption is fallacious. There are signings and trades made all the time for which there was no warning. Lots of times after a signing the most that is said is "other teams" were interested or made offers without identifying the teams.

And if you really watched the league so closely you would know that basically every GM in the league says "we want to build through the draft."
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Why is it that you still act like that's some sort of success? Lol!!! I've got news for you, it's not. So Rick Smith and Gary Kubiak took over a team that was a bottom feeder. I get it. You've mentioned this over and over for years. But guess what? They've still done nothing since they've gotten here and it's 5 YEARS LATER. I know that you think that winning 6 games is some major improvement, but it wasn't. Teams around the league make 4 game win improvements all of the time. Going from 6-10 to 8-8 wasn't much of an improvement either and I can't believe that anyone thought 9-7 was something to cheer for after two years of 8-8. Smithiak has been the epitome of one step forward-two steps back since they've been here and established themselves as easy pickings around the rest of the NFL even when they have games in the bag. The only successful thing that Smithiak has been able to do here is stay in Mcnair's good graces.

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2-14 + one step forward + two steps back = 6-10. Hard to argue with that. I'm done.

All I am trying to do, is keep the argument in the realm of reality. I thought both of those guys should have been fired this season. If records matter, as you have said they do, then they have been mediocre. I think both of them had ample time to learn and grow in their job and prove their plan successful. But, they were unable to rise above mediocrity. That being said, that is a far cry from the worst in the NFL, which you continue to argue despite any logic whatsoever.
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Those types of reports come out quite frequently.





I don't think there is any such thing as a "haterade" rant when we're talking about a duo of HC and GM that have accomplished nothing but fail together. That's speaking on fact and truth. It's not "hating."



All you have to do is pay attention around the league and not read about just the Texans dude. When free agents are out there shopping themselves around there are always reports about what teams they've talked to or what teams are interested and making pitches at them. Then when they sign contracts there are more reports about why they didn't sign with this team or that team from either them or the teams themselves. There are also reports about what teams are trying to trade with whom and what they're looking for or who they're trying to shop. This stuff gets reported, and sure every single thing in the world may not be out there to be read and disected on every detail, but the majority of it gets reported if it has any legs to it. I don't know if you just pay attention to just the Texans, but I pay attention to the entire league because I have to it's not hard to see who the main teams are that are constantly making moves. The Texans are hardly ever reported on for doing anything or even trying really.

Every off season you make these same arguments for Smithiak acting like they're being so smart by being conservative and they've got probably a ton of things shaking, but they're just this one organization in the NFL that keeps it as top secret, yet at the end of the off season we don't really do anything and at the end of the season it's proven to have been a fail of a season again where off season moves could have been made to change things.



I don't have to spin. The lack of moves since SMithiak has been here us pure proof of that. The lack of reports that we're ever doing anything is proof of that. They've said themselves "We like to build through the draft." That's their approach. How many times do they have to say it and only do it that way for you to stop acting like we've got the most secretive team in the league that just knows how to keep the public from knowing any of the secret war plans from Smithiak? I mean come on. We don't have some sort of top notch Skull And Bones society of scouts and minions that work for Rick Smith that know how to negotiate and do under the table deals that are to top secret to get reported ever. Since Smithiak arrived here they've stated that building through the draft is their thing and they've stuck by it.


The lack of moves that the all mighty texecutioner aprove of that is. All the reading of rotoworld in the world still doesn't disprove our point: you don't know what they've tried to do. Just b/c they don't report every potential move they plan to make in FA to satisfy your burden of proof doesn't mean that they haven't inquired. Most of the time, those teams you're raving about that are all over Rotoworld active in FA aren't signing world beaters..they're doing just what the texans are, signing guys that they believe fit their system...or are stealing guys off of other teams' practice squads.
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I see both sides, but I'm leaning more with Tex on this one...

I just think that if the Texans were active in Free agency we'd have heard more about it. I just can't see them going after all these "phantom players" and not so much as causing a ripple...
Whenever some of the top names and successful players around the league are free agents or are part of trading deals where they've been unhappy and teams are making their pitches whether it be through free agency and trades it's always top news in the off season and the teams that are really in there trying to sign these guys are always being reported about and it's also typically reported as to why this team or that team dropped out or why that player didn't want to go there or why he chose another team instead. This is the business of sites all over the country that make their living on reporting just that.
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We don't have some sort of top notch Skull And Bones society of scouts and minions that work for Rick Smith that know how to negotiate and do under the table deals that are to top secret to get reported ever. Since Smithiak arrived here they've stated that building through the draft is their thing and they've stuck by it.
Adding ammo to your assertions, Tex:

All three guys (Bob, Gary, Rick) have stated openly that we're dedicated to cacthing guys on the way up and NOT going after those guys who are too old and looking for a last payday from the Texans.

Therefore, this limits what we can get in free agency because most teams are going to hold onto their own young, "up and coming" guys.

All of this adds up to the Texans really just going after scrubs that they think they can turn around and "coach up" yet the punchline is that defensive players were not, and cannot, be coached up here. Maybe under Wade they can, but the prior five years? Nope. So not only did the d-coord themselves fail, but the player talent was limited also (building through the draft only, with the exception of Antonio Smith--which is a stretch, IMO).

It really is quite hilarious when we sit here and talk about it.
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Okay, Mr. McNair, you're not going to do something crazy. Just know that what you are doing is considered the definition of "insanity" by Albert Einstein (doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results).

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Whenever some of the top names and successful players around the league are free agents or are part of trading deals where they've been unhappy and teams are making their pitches whether it be through free agency and trades it's always top news in the off season and the teams that are really in there trying to sign these guys are always being reported about and it's also typically reported as to why this team or that team dropped out or why that player didn't want to go there or why he chose another team instead. This is the business of sites all over the country that make their living on reporting just that.

Scenario: Say Tom Brady right now is a FA & out on the market right now. Obviously, he's 1 of the top Qb's in the league & every team wants him or could use him save for Indy, GB, & i guess you could throw in Pitt, ATL & any team who has drafted & feels they have their franchise qb within the last 2 years (STL, TB etc.) that leaves what, 20 something teams still left that could/should go after him - aggressively.

However, you read on Rotoworld or wherever that the Pats, Ariz, & say SF are the only teams he has visits lined up or have contacted or whatever with him in the near future. Later he goes ahead & resigns with NE. Do you really think that those other teams desperate for a qb like Mia, Sea & say Tenn didn't at least inquire about what it was going to take to get him there?
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Adding ammo to your assertions, Tex:

All three guys (Bob, Gary, Rick) have stated openly that we're dedicated to cacthing guys on the way up and NOT going after those guys who are too old and looking for a last payday from the Texans.

Therefore, this limits what we can get in free agency because most teams are going to hold onto their own young, "up and coming" guys.

All of this adds up to the Texans really just going after scrubs that they think they can turn around and "coach up" yet the punchline is that defensive players were not, and cannot, be coached up here. Maybe under Wade they can, but the prior five years? Nope. So not only did the d-coord themselves fail, but the player talent was limited also (building through the draft only, with the exception of Antonio Smith--which is a stretch, IMO).

It really is quite hilarious when we sit here and talk about it.
You're right, but most teams don't let their stars hit FA either...unless these guys have had problems in the past (haynesworth, peppers) and/or these guys have had injury concerns in the past (Brees, Woodson).
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You're right, but most teams don't let their stars hit FA either...unless these guys have had problems in the past (haynesworth, peppers) and/or these guys have had injury concerns in the past (Brees, Woodson).
I just think Mcnair has got a mindset and he's painted himself into a corner with it.

It's like a tale of two eras with this guy: In the Casserly era, we gave Todd Wade a sweetheart deal. The Ahman Green deal was the final one, which I think was on Kubiak's watch. The new era is one marked by cautious pussyfooting as it relates to free agents, a sort of low-risk low-reward type thing.

We're going to have to make a move on a defensive player or two in order to compensate for the previous five years of FAIL as it relates to what I perceive as a lack of talent among defensive coaches. That's where McNair needs to let go of his new way of thinking, IMO.
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When you interpret generic comments about the league as the whole as a defense of Smithiak it is haterade.



Yeah, I don't pay attention to anything but the Texans - LOL. You assume there are always reports for every contact. I think that assumption is fallacious. There are signings and trades made all the time for which there was no warning. Lots of times after a signing the most that is said is "other teams" were interested or made offers without identifying the teams.
Spin it however you'd like but 5 years of history of a lack of action speaks for itself. The Texans have been criticized over it for years and the fact that they've continually failed from year to year prove the criticisms to have been warranted and for those who argued on behalf of SMithiak and there lack of actions as being smart and doing things the right way like you're still doing now were wrong. Results speak for themselves and going 6-10 in the 5th year of a regime is indefensible at this point. They've done a bad job at acquiring players to fill holes and to find play makers.

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And if you really watched the league so closely you would know that basically every GM in the league says "we want to build through the draft."
Well, gee Cak you're right, how did I not think of that? Every team builds through the draft. Otherwise they wouldn't even be participating in the draft now would they. The Texans are one of the only teams that have a philosophy of building strictly through the draft and you know that's what I meant. That's their MO and that's their style. They won't go out and spend big money to acquire certain players. They'll spend some here and there, but when a big time play maker is out there they never have in their history of 9 seasons. Not once. And please don't say they did with Todd Wade or Weaver again. Neither one of those guys were big time play makers that were highly sought after. Those were guys that didn't have a whole lot of demand on the open market at all and the Texans just decided to throw stupid money at. Of course every team wants to build through the draft, that's why they show up and make a pick every round, but many of the constantly successful teams go out and make trades either for picks or for players to make their team stronger. That's the whole point of what they're supposed to be doing if they're committed to winning. Being anti free agency for the most part and only have one approach for making your team stronger limits your chances and that means you have to draft extremely well with all your picks to where many of them can become effective starters right away and you've got to be great at drafting the right guys and that's a hard task for any GM much less to think some stuges like Smithiak is capable of that every draft.
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What's interesting is that it appears there is a sector of people who think success isn't entirely or exclusively earned, but rather it's in conjunction with good fortune. Luck, good fortune, a series of circumstantial events. Fate.

This explains why some are a little bit more "chill" as it pertains to whether a coach should be fired or not.

I'm not saying that the Rabitt's Foot gang doesn't think Kubiak should have been fired--A lot of them have said that he should have been fired. But I think it explains their willingness to not get their panties in a bunch like the Soapers have over the deal. Too many factors involved, possibly, to say it was this or that (exclusively).

THEORY: Soapers think the end result is a sum total of the efforts of the people in charge of managing, planning, coaching, and playing the game of football. Rabbit Footers think that an element outside the control of man is linked to the end result (in addition to managing, planning, etc.).

This could explain why each side is entrenched against the other so often. On one side, there are those who think you can rise above and conquer any obstacle in your path--It's you vs. the world, find a way to adapt and overcome. On the other side of the aisle, there's a group who indeed values all of those ideals yet also thinks there's a certain ceiling you reach pertaining to the element of "What if Drew Bledsoe was never injured?"

My reasoning dictates that it was inevitable that Brady was going to get a shot. In the NFL, things seem to level themselves out pretty well. The NFL has always held intrugue for me because it's a place where everyone figures out fairly quickly who has the goods and who doesn't--The only squelching of talent seemingly arises either out of injury to the upward-trending athlete (Bo Jackson), trouble with the law (Burress), just flat out leaving the game altogether (Barry Sanders, Glen Coffe, etc.), or an owner and/or coach/GM who falls in love with the starter and doesn't have the good sense to see that the 2nd or 3rd string guy is the better option.

Even in the face of all those things I listed above, the best in the NFL seemingly find a way to rise to the top. One way or another, whether it's in camp, preseason games, injuries, a contract dispute and subsequent trading/releasing of the player, etc....all roads lead to the guy with the best talent getting his shot at some point or another.

To me, this renders the "What if Drew Bledsoe had never been injured" scenarios a bit of a moot point. What if Jimmy Johnson had never become a coach at all, what if he was a tire salesman instead? What if there wasn't an NFL at all? What if, what if, what if, etc. I think there is certainly something to the idea that a good bounce here, or a bad call by a ref there, can impact the end result.

I just think nothing of what I have seen from the Texans has shown me that they have a smidgen of ability to test the top tier of the NFL and truly challenge those teams in a one-on-one gameday situation for a chance at a SB ring. The offense? Maybe. Yet they still are a tricky group to rely upon when you look at 2010's efforts all season long.

I think we're a team that doesn't know how to deal with adversity and unfortunate bounces to the point of taking it by the tail and just throwing it out of the entire stadium. No killer instinct, IMO. No do-or-die persona, IMO. And I think that eminates from the top (McNair) to the middle (Kubiak) to the bottom (Players). There's a sense of "Gosh darn, we're gettin' our stuff together and we'll get there soon! Just hold on, everybody! We're a'comin..."

Grates on some people's nerves.
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I'm crazy..... Let's do something well thought out and lucid?!??!
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