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Old 03-18-2011   #1
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Default Re: The Texans best draft choice in history is.....

Wouldn't AJ be the obvious answer here?

Same with the Colts, why not put Manning in there? He's literally the reason that team is in the playoffs every year.

Edit: Just saw it was only the last 5 drafts.
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Default Re: The Texans best draft choice in history is.....

I love how the Texans were slammed for taking Mario but now everyone sees it as the right choice (well, 98% of the people do).

I think Demeco Ryans deserves some discussion as our best draft choice over the last 5 years. 33rd overall pick, he's the leader of our defense. Smart, instinctual player.
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I can understand how Mario would be considered the Texans best choice as he was A.) selected when most people thought Reggie Bush or Vince Young was a better choice and B.) He became a cornerstone on our defense that lacked talent besides DeMeco Ryans.

However, if it were up to me here is what I would have to say:

Best Choice: Andre Johnson hands down. Even with a weak offensive line and a quarterback with serious flaws, he found a way to produce and put points up on the board for the Texans.

Best Value: This is a tough one as I am stuck between DeMeco Ryans and Owen Daniels. However, I'm going to say it has to be Ryans. Productive and the obvious leader on our young defense, Ryans was a nice surprise in the 2nd round.

Worst Pick: There are so many players worthy of distinction so its hard to choose from. I would have to say Travis Johnson. He was supposed to be a major impact player at DT, yet, he came of as lazy and would flat out give up on plays. This, and he was also a punk on the field (e.g. Taunting Trent Green who was injured and on the ground helpless)
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I can understand how Mario would be considered the Texans best choice as he was A.) selected when most people thought Reggie Bush or Vince Young was a better choice and B.) He became a cornerstone on our defense that lacked talent besides DeMeco Ryans.

However, if it were up to me here is what I would have to say:

Best Choice: Andre Johnson hands down. Even with a weak offensive line and a quarterback with serious flaws, he found a way to produce and put points up on the board for the Texans.

Best Value: This is a tough one as I am stuck between DeMeco Ryans and Owen Daniels. However, I'm going to say it has to be Ryans. Productive and the obvious leader on our young defense, Ryans was a nice surprise in the 2nd round.

Worst Pick: There are so many players worthy of distinction so its hard to choose from. I would have to say Travis Johnson. He was supposed to be a major impact player at DT, yet, he came of as lazy and would flat out give up on plays. This, and he was also a punk on the field (e.g. Taunting Trent Green who was injured and on the ground helpless)
Trent Green went flying head first into his knee. He's lucky that shot didn't end his career. Not saying he should have taunted but I can understand why he was pissed.

I have to put Okoye over Johnson. He was picked higher and has been just as ineffective.
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Nevermind.... It's only looking at past five drafts.
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worst pick by far was David Carr. set back the franchise five years or more depending on your viewpoint. Just imagine we could have drafted Peppers instead
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Worst Pick: There are so many players worthy of distinction so its hard to choose from. I would have to say Travis Johnson. He was supposed to be a major impact player at DT, yet, he came of as lazy and would flat out give up on plays. This, and he was also a punk on the field (e.g. Taunting Trent Green who was injured and on the ground helpless)
3 Way tie :

3rd round pick DE Charles Hill
3rd round pick Qb Dave Ragone
3rd round pick Cb Antwan Molden

Best pick?

The only reason i wont say Andre Johnson is because people knew he was a beast and the Texans didn't have the choice to draft WR Charles Rogers.

Mario has to be best. The scrutiny they endured both locally and nationally was nuts. His entire rookie season people still ridiculed the Texans. How many people have had to appologize for calling the Texans fools? Listening to Rhome say he was wrong was "epic".
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worst pick by far was David Carr. set back the franchise five years or more depending on your viewpoint. Just imagine we could have drafted Peppers instead
I had mentioned the same thing on my previous post but this article only goes back five drafts.
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Amobi Okoye followed by K. Jackson are the worst picks in the last five drafts. K. Jack can still redeem himself but Amobi is what he is. A very average player in the NFL.
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Duane Brown was a pick people were furious about. In retrospect he was a solid selection





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worst selection ever...ignore my previous post!

#2 RB Tony freaking Hollings

Way to outmanuever the rest of the NFL Charley.
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Amobi Okoye followed by K. Jackson are the worst picks in the last five drafts. K. Jack can still redeem himself but Amobi is what he is. A very average player in the NFL.
Judging Jackson after one year in a TERRIBLE secondary is a bit harsh in my opinion.
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Amobi Okoye followed by K. Jackson are the worst picks in the last five drafts. K. Jack can still redeem himself but Amobi is what he is. A very average player in the NFL.
I think you have every reason to write off Okoye at this point, but hold off on doing the same with Kareem because it's way too early to say he's a bust, though no doubt his first year was disappointing.
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Amobi Okoye followed by K. Jackson are the worst picks in the last five drafts. K. Jack can still redeem himself but Amobi is what he is. A very average player in the NFL.
I think both players can still redeem themselves with new scheme & coaching, at least we can hope.
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Judging Jackson after one year in a TERRIBLE secondary is a bit harsh in my opinion.
That's why I said that he can still redeem himself.
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I think both players can still redeem themselves with new scheme & coaching, at least we can hope.
I think Amobi is not a fit in the 3-4. Not strong enough to play the NT position and too short to play the 3-4 end. I don't know where they will try to put him but I think this is his last year with the Texans.
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The worse choice to me was when we decided to trade back into the 1st round,with a division rival, to select Jason Babin. In that same year we go with Bennie Joppru instead of Jason Witten.
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It's about the past 5 years, guys. Not all time.

Past 5 years, I'd argue that the best was Owen Daniels or Demeco, not Mario. Mario was taken #1 overall. He's supposed to be a beast.

Worst has to be Amobi. He's played a lot of downs for us but he's not the beast we expected. Not even anywhere close to BEA let alone BEAST.
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Its too bad Cushing isn't even in the discussion. If his 2nd year had been anything like his rookie season, he'd be a no brainer. He blew it for himself
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worst selection ever...ignore my previous post!

#2 RB Tony freaking Hollings

Way to outmanuever the rest of the NFL Charley.

Was it really neccessary to bring that up?! UGGH.

just for that, I might as well bring up the PBurnt trade: 2nd and 3rd round pick for a CB that can't cover.

Amazing to think about how few 2nd round picks we've had. When we've had them, they have been good picks: Pitts, Demeco, Barwin (will be).

Here are the 2nd round picks we've lost:

1. gave one away moving up for Babin
2. gave one up for Hollings supplemental pick
3. gave one up fo PBuchanan
4/5. gave away 2 for Matt Schaub
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