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Old 03-09-2011   #1
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Default Mel Kiper Mock Draft 3.0

Mock Draft:

1. Carolina - Blaine Gabbert, QB, Mizzou
2. Denver - Nick Fairley, DT, Auburn
3. Buffalo - Marcell Dareus, DT, Alabama
4. Cincinnati - Cam Newton, QB, Auburn
5. Arizona - Von Miller, OLB, Texas A&M
6. Cleveland - A.J. Green, WR, Georgia
7. San Francisco - Patrick Peterson, CB, LSU
8. Tennessee - Da'Quan Bowers, DE, Clemson
9. Dallas - Prince Amukamara, CB, Nebraska
10. Washington - Julio Jones, WR, Alabama
11. Houston - J.J. Watt, DE, Wisconsin
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12. Minnesota - Robert Quinn, DE, North Carolina
13. Detroit - Tyron Smith, OT, USC
14. St. Louis - Corey Liuget, DT, Illinois
15. Miami - Mark Ingram, RB, Alabama
16. Jacksonville - Aldon Smith, OLB, Missouri
17. New England - Ryan Kerrigan, OLB, Purdue
18. San Diego - Cameron Jordan, DE, Cal
19. New York Giants - Mike Pouncey, G, Florida
20. Tampa Bay - Justin Houston, DE, Georgia
21. Kansas City - Akeem Ayers, OLB, UCLA
22. Indianapolis - Anthony Castonzo, OT, Boston College
23. Philadelphia - Gabe Carimi, OT, Wisconsin
24. New Orleans - Muhammad Wilkerson, DT, Temple
25. Seattle - Jake Locker, QB, Washington
26. Baltimore - Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado
27. Atlanta - Adrian Clayborn, DE, Iowa
28. New England - Leonard Hankerson, WR, Miami
29. Chicago - Nate Solder, OT, Colorado
30. New York Jets - Rahim Moore, S, UCLA
31. Pittsburgh - Dan Watkins, OG, Baylor
32. Green Bay - Brooks Reed, OLB, Arizona

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Default Re: Mel Kiper Mock Draft 3.0

If Gabbert goes first overall I am going to guess he will be one of the biggest busts in NFL history.

Hello Ryan Leaf.

Seriously is he ANY better than Clausen coming out?
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Default Re: Mel Kiper Mock Draft 3.0

I hope the Browns end up with AJ Green, but I don't think he makes it to #6
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I would think they go Bowers, Darius or Peterson. QB just doesnt make sense #1. They have Clausen still. No reason to draft another QB that needs work.
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Cam at #4??? really?
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Cam at #4??? really?
I can see this. The guy had a great pro-day yesterday. There are 3-4 teams up top that are desperate for QBs and right now have no hope of anyone on their squad developing or they have a guy like Palmer leaving. There is no sure free agency anytime soon so they have to try the draft.
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Cam at #4??? really?
You question Newton at 4 but not Gabbert at 1?

VY went 3
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Default Re: Mel Kiper Mock Draft 3.0

Kiper's still a moron, but I wouldn't be upset with Watt. I like him
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Kiper's still a moron, but I wouldn't be upset with Watt. I like him
Yeah, apart from some of the other craziness I could live with the Texans picks.
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You question Newton at 4 but not Gabbert at 1?

VY went 3
I think Cam is VY version 2. Gabbert is more pro-ready day 1. I still think he's a stretch at #1, but less a stretch than Cam.
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I think Cam is VY version 2. Gabbert is more pro-ready day 1. I still think he's a stretch at #1, but less a stretch than Cam.
Gabbert never played under centre and gets happy feet whenever he feels any pressure.

Pro-ready from day one? Really?
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Gabbert never played under centre and gets happy feet whenever he feels any pressure.

Pro-ready from day one? Really?
What, you think Cam is? Really? Did you WATCH the combine?
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I think Newton is best to sit too.

I think they both have work to do, I just think that Newton has FAR FAR more potential than Gabbert and will be able to survive in the pro's if he is thrown in the deep end while I think Gabbert won't.
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What, you think Cam is? Really? Did you WATCH the combine?
Oh and I am sorry, I didn't realise that the combine is where you define how competent a QB is in actual games.

Have they changed the rules in the new CBA so QBs get to wear shorts and t-shirt and aren't allowed to get hit?
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Mel w/ his thoughts or reasoning on Gabbert/Newton.

1. Carolina Panthers
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There's a thought process here that goes beyond need. For one, Gabbert impressed in Indy, and his pro day next week will help determine if he has the potential to land here. Two, I expect any labor deal that gets worked out will create a rookie salary scale that limits the massive bonuses for top picks, making it easier to trade up and down in the draft, which has become increasingly difficult. So it makes sense for Carolina to project that it could take one of the top quarterbacks and open up the trade options, in essence, saying, "To guarantee a shot at the one you prefer, talk to us." Lastly, while I still believe in Jimmy Clausen's chances given his youth, Ron Rivera could not be blamed for targeting his own vision of a franchise quarterback with a pick here or via free agency. It's a leverage position now, but also a potential pick. Part of it is up to Gabbert.
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In 2003, Marvin Lewis' first year as head coach with the Bengals, the franchise drafted Carson Palmer, and had the discipline to start Jon Kitna all season and let Palmer learn the system while waiting to step in as the franchise quarterback. With Palmer on his way out, Lewis could do something similar in 2011, drafting Newton, letting him take a year to learn the system and plugging in an interim solution in the meantime. The Bengals could also consider moving this pick, similar to Carolina's position with Gabbert.
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Oh and I am sorry, I didn't realise that the combine is where you define how competent a QB is in actual games.

Have they changed the rules in the new CBA so QBs get to wear shorts and t-shirt and aren't allowed to get hit?
I didn't realize that winning the Heisman at the QB position was a guaranteed success at the position either. The Texans aren't starting Leinart why again?

If you think you can compare passing (you know when those QB's actually throw the ball) competency between Cam and Gabbert as being anywhere close (as exposed , quite painfully at the combine), you're delusional.

Feel free to carry on.
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None of these QBs are ready to start day one.
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if that's how the board plays out and we pass on quinn...i'll be a very angry trap.
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None of these QBs are ready to start day one.
Agreed. Personally, I still don't think there's a QB worthy of a 1st round pick this year.
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Agreed. Personally, I still don't think there's a QB worthy of a 1st round pick this year.
The problem isn't whether a guy is "worth it" as much as whether he'll still be there when you get to pick again. For some teams, they'll be worth the risk. I expect 2-3 to be taken in the first this year.
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