OB's post combine mock

[otisbean]

Goals: improve the front 7 and use FA and proper coaching to improve the secondary

Rd 1: Robert Quinn OLB - stud pass rusher

Rd 2: Christian Ballard DE - great DE prospect, had very strong senior bowl

Rd 3: Jarvis Jenkins NT - not a giant space eater, more of Jay Ratliff style penetrating NT

Rd 3: compensatory pick (finger crossed) Tyler Sash SS

Rd 4: Richard Sherman - young FS prospect

Rd 5: Darryl "Buster: Skrine CB - young prospect at CB - immediate help at KR/PR - extremely fast

Rd 6: Steven Friday - OLB prospect to develop

Rd 7 BPA


FA - target Carlos Roger and Eric Weddle: you could probably get both for what it would cost for NA.

DL: MW, AS, SC, AO, Ballard, Jenkins

LB: Barwin, Cush, Ryans, Sharpton, Quinn, Friday, Bentley

DB: Quin, Jackson, Weddle, Rogers, McMannis, Sash, Skrine, McCain

[Wolf6151]

Originally Posted by otisbean

Goals: improve the front 7 and use FA and proper coaching to improve the secondary

This seems to be the hopeful and popular logic being used around here by many the only problem is that we're not guaranteed to get anyone in FA. Players may be more expensive than what the Texans are willing to pay or may not want to come here and play for a team that can't develope or improve in 9 yrs.. Top FA's will be getting offers from many teams many of which will be contenders and they may see us as hopeless. I don't think you can ignore the secondary in the draft and hope to solve all those issues in FA. The Texans have never been an organization to spend alot of money on elite FA's.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by Wolf6151

This seems to be the hopeful and popular logic being used around here by many the only problem is that we're not guaranteed to get anyone in FA. Players may be more expensive than what the Texans are willing to pay or may not want to come here and play for a team that can't develope or improve in 9 yrs.. Top FA's will be getting offers from many teams many of which will be contenders and they may see us as hopeless. I don't think you can ignore the secondary in the draft and hope to solve all those issues in FA. The Texans have never been an organization to spend alot of money on elite FA's.

Money had better not be an issue.

I think Bob understands that.

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

Money had better not be an issue.

I think Bob understands that.

When did BoB begin to understand this?

He hasn't understood this for atleast the last 4 yrs.

[Wolf6151]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

Money had better not be an issue.

I think Bob understands that.

Who was the first, last, or only big time FA this team ever signed? Antonio Smith I think is the biggest FA we ever signed and he was a mid level guy.

[JB]

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

When did BoB begin to understand this?

He hasn't understood this for atleast the last 4 yrs.

Originally Posted by Wolf6151

Who was the first, last, or only big time FA this team ever signed? Antonio Smith I think is the biggest FA we ever signed and he was a mid level guy.

And perhaps this is not Bob as much as it is Rick Smith.

Bob let's his football people run the football side. I think Bob watches the marketing side much more.

I have yet to hear any comment from anyone that Bob said no to a player for financial reasons.

The Texans do not release much info, so it is all speculation about what goes on in the FO.

But the results have stunk so far.

[thunderkyss]

Originally Posted by JB

And perhaps this is not Bob as much as it is Rick Smith.

Bob let's his football people run the football side. I think Bob watches the marketing side much more.

I have yet to hear any comment from anyone that Bob said no to a player for financial reasons.

The Texans do not release much info, so it is all speculation about what goes on in the FO.

But the results have stunk so far.

I think Bob understands last year, 2009-2010 off-season was the year we should have been bold in FA. The way he was going on at the end of the season, & when he brought Wade in made me believe he's going to make a splash for the 2011 season.

I'm reading between the lines, has nothing to do with what we've done in the past, but I want to believe Rick Smith's job is on the line & FA will be the deciding factor.

[JB]

Originally Posted by thunderkyss

I think Bob understands last year, 2009-2010 off-season was the year we should have been bold in FA. The way he was going on at the end of the season, & when he brought Wade in made me believe he's going to make a splash for the 2011 season.

I'm reading between the lines, has nothing to do with what we've done in the past, but I want to believe Rick Smith's job is on the line & FA will be the deciding factor.

I think that one of the biggest, if not the biggest, weaknesses of this franchise is the lack someone with a lot of football experience between Bob & Cal and the FO.

Unless you have a very strong, experienced GM, which I'm not sure we have, then Bob, who has practically none, has to rely on people talking for their jobs to let him know what is needed.

And all the other owners can tell him how good they are losing and are surely on the right track.

Not sure which direction or what the next destination is though.

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by JB

I think that one of the biggest, if not the biggest, weaknesses of this franchise is the lack someone with a lot of football experience between Bob & Cal and the FO.

Unless you have a very strong, experienced GM, which I'm not sure we have, then Bob, who has practically none, has to rely on people talking for their jobs to let him know what is needed.

And all the other owners can tell him how good they are losing and are surely on the right track.

Not sure which direction or what the next destination is though.

Agreed

Only BoB can hire a proven GM and he's chosen not to do so.

BoB's biggest fault is he's either unwilling or unable to put high quality personnel people in place and let them do there job.

Has there been another team in the history of the NFL that has let a 2nd yr HC hire a rookie GM? Wouldn't you think BoB would question the wisdom of going all youth at the upper level of his football organization.

I'm just not buying that BoB is as misguided as some on this MB make him out to be.

[JB]

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

Agreed

Only BoB can hire a proven GM and he's chosen not to do so.

BoB's biggest fault is he's either unwilling or unable to put high quality personnel people in place and let them do there job.

Has there been another team in the history of the NFL that has let a 2nd yr HC hire a rookie GM? Wouldn't you think BoB would question the wisdom of going all youth at the upper level of his football organization.

I'm just not buying that BoB is as misguided as some on this MB make him out to be.

Didn't Bob rely heavily on Dan Reeves and others on the hiring of Kubiak and Smith?

[beerlover]

Originally Posted by JB

I think that one of the biggest, if not the biggest, weaknesses of this franchise is the lack someone with a lot of football experience between Bob & Cal and the FO.

Unless you have a very strong, experienced GM, which I'm not sure we have, then Bob, who has practically none, has to rely on people talking for their jobs to let him know what is needed.

And all the other owners can tell him how good they are losing and are surely on the right track.

Not sure which direction or what the next destination is though.

Casserly came with experince along with glowing resume & refernces, didn't seem to prevent him from making bone headed decisions. I would say you either got it or you don't & McNair is still waiting at the alter himself.

[JB]

Originally Posted by beerlover

Casserly came with experince along with glowing resume & refernces, didn't seem to prevent him from making bone headed decisions. I would say you either got it or you don't & McNair is still waiting at the alter himself.

Casserly had been out of the game what, 15 years?

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by JB

Didn't Bob rely heavily on Dan Reeves and others on the hiring of Kubiak and Smith?

I dont know.

But only BoB is to blame for this mess.

[JB]

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

I dont know.

But only BoB is to blame for this mess.

Well sure! It is his show. But I don't think you can say he doesn't want to to what's best, he just doesn't know how.

[beerlover]

Originally Posted by JB

Casserly had been out of the game what, 15 years?

so experience is relative to what have you done lately, not that your experinced, hence qualified.

[JB]

Originally Posted by beerlover

so experience is relative to what have you done lately, not that your experinced, hence qualified.

I think it was a surprise to most just how sucky Casserly wound up being.

[infantrycak]

Originally Posted by JB

Casserly had been out of the game what, 15 years?

Not even a year. He was fired by Dan Snyder in 1999 and then was hired by the Texans in January 2000.

[JB]

Originally Posted by infantrycak

Not even a year. He was fired by Dan Snyder in 1999 and then was hired by the Texans in January 2000.

Really? I thought he was fired as GM a long time before that

[infantrycak]

Originally Posted by JB

Really? I thought he was fired as GM a long time before that

Pretty sure and that he was in Washington in 1999 when New Orleans traded away all their picks for Ricky Williams and then Washington got Champ Baily.

Here you go - Link

[JB]

Originally Posted by infantrycak

Pretty sure and that he was in Washington in 1999 when New Orleans traded away all their picks for Ricky Williams and then Washington got Champ Baily.

Here you go - Link

Yeah, I checked and you are right. Don't know where I got that impression from.