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Old 03-04-2011   #41
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I wouldn't necessarily be disappointed with that pick. But I have the feeling that BPA for the Texans will mean defensive BPA.
This is another reason we need FA before the draft. Do we really want to spend a 1st on a WR? Do we want to take another chance on a CB in the 1st? Should we "reach" for the best OLB available?

IMO, a lot of questions can be answered in FA. CB and S are the positions, I think, that need to be addressed in FA. I wouldn't be up in arms if we chose a WR, but I don't think we're good enough to draft BPA in the first or 2nd rounds.
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This is another reason we need FA before the draft. Do we really want to spend a 1st on a WR? Do we want to take another chance on a CB in the 1st? Should we "reach" for the best OLB available?

IMO, a lot of questions can be answered in FA. CB and S are the positions, I think, that need to be addressed in FA. I wouldn't be up in arms if we chose a WR, but I don't think we're good enough to draft BPA in the first or 2nd rounds.
as long as they keep extending the CBA deadline. Teams are addressing needs right now as I post this & players will continue to move until there is another change one week from now. So Texans get busy.
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so by his logic if Julio Jones is on the board #11 Texans take him because he is BPA?
I think there's more of a chance of that than people might think.
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as long as they keep extending the CBA deadline. Teams are addressing needs right now as I post this & players will continue to move until there is another change one week from now. So Texans get busy.
That's incorrect. As of midnight last night there has been a "tolling agreement" in place. There can be no player movement or signings until a deal is in place.

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The extension of the CBA also includes a "tolling agreement"; in this scenario, the league's 32 teams still will be prohibited from executing player transactions. It is the same agreement reached Thursday. During this period, teams can talk about players but signings or renegotiations of current contracts cannot occur.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6181794
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then its not truly BPA
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That's incorrect. As of midnight last night there has been a "tolling agreement" in place. There can be no player movement or signings until a deal is in place.



http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=6181794
so all the deals announced today where hammered out before the original one day extension? tell me how all these players are changing teams without FA?

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/2789/bob-sanders

or for Texans might they target Watson, whats to stop them? http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3656/gabe-watson or Tye Hill for that matter addressing two needs via free agency? http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3673/tye-hill
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This is another reason we need FA before the draft. Do we really want to spend a 1st on a WR? Do we want to take another chance on a CB in the 1st? Should we "reach" for the best OLB available?

IMO, a lot of questions can be answered in FA. CB and S are the positions, I think, that need to be addressed in FA. I wouldn't be up in arms if we chose a WR, but I don't think we're good enough to draft BPA in the first or 2nd rounds.

I agree with all you say. You are more likely to get players with immediate impact in FA (if you are willing to spend the money on the right players). There aren't that many 1st round WRs that I can remember that made immediate impact..............eventually proving value, yes; but immediate impact, no.
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so all the deals announced today where hammered out before the original one day extension? tell me how all these players are changing teams without FA?

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/2789/bob-sanders

or for Texans might they target Watson, whats to stop them? http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3656/gabe-watson or Tye Hill for that matter addressing two needs via free agency? http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3673/tye-hill
From what I gather, deals were done yesterday and last night. I guess they just don't get reported unless they're confirmed. Here's the Peprah deal that actually says it was done right before the deadline.

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Packers agreed to terms with S Charlie Peprah to a two-year, $2.3 million contract.
Peprah signed the deal before the midnight deadline Thursday. He's likely headed back to a reserve role with Morgan Burnett reclaiming the strong safety job in 2011. Peprah is a favorite of the coaching staff, and the deal keeps him off the open market as a five-year vet. The Packers will now move on from free agent Atari Bigby.
http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/nfl/football
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so all the deals announced today where hammered out before the original one day extension? tell me how all these players are changing teams without FA?

http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/2789/bob-sanders

or for Texans might they target Watson, whats to stop them? http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3656/gabe-watson or Tye Hill for that matter addressing two needs via free agency? http://www.rotoworld.com/player/nfl/3673/tye-hill
What specific deals? I saw the NFL network reporting the Chargers signing of Bob Sanders even before the original expiration time of 11:59 EST yesterday.
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so all the deals announced today where hammered out before the original one day extension? tell me how all these players are changing teams without FA?
I think that these are players that have been cut from their teams. If I'm not mistaken players who's deals have simply expired are the ones that must wait until a free agency period.
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I think most free agents will end up resigning with their current teams.
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Most RFAs.........not most UFAs.
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I agree with all you say. You are more likely to get players with immediate impact in FA (if you are willing to spend the money on the right players). There aren't that many 1st round WRs that I can remember that made immediate impact..............eventually proving value, yes; but immediate impact, no.
I'm a proponent for Julio Jones.


But you speak the truth.


This should be an all out effort by the Texans to make something happen this year.


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I'm a proponent for Julio Jones.


But you speak the truth.


This should be an all out effort by the Texans to make something happen this year.


There ain't no tomorrow.

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If the Texans where to draft Julio Jones I think he would easily beat AJ Green as best rookie WR in this system with weapons surrounding him. People seem too full of themselves & Texans offensive prowess, F'N that I want to be the NFL's premier offense, they need to leverage their offensive Head Coach. Draft what you know best & let Wade do a better job of utilizing the defensive talent already here then addressing holes via FA & draft.

Julio would help Andre keep cleaner & healthier. Open up more running lanes for Foster, Ward & Tate (excellent down-field blocker). Owen is back & can pick up garbage underneath & keep corners from cheating. The OL has experience & continuity. Just don't be complacent & turn your back on a great player just because you believe the offense is stacked, it only takes one injury to AJ to knock him out, then what?
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Just don't be complacent & turn your back on a great player just because you believe the offense is stacked, it only takes one injury to AJ to knock him out, then what?
I've gone back & forth on this... I just don't know.

I feel you. Neglecting to stack talent on the offensive side of the board is going to bite us in the knickers sooner rather than later.

I feel really good, with Foster, Ward, Tate, Slaton.

I feel equally as good, with OD, Dressen, Casey, Graham, Hill

I feel really great, if they bring back Butler.

I'm worried, about Andre, Walter, Jacoby Jones, David Anderson, Dorin??

I'm just as worried about Schaub, ??

It may already be too late, & Kubiak's got himself in a pickle.
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