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Old 02-25-2011   #41
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Mario will be the guy we all want him to be!!! ie..DeMarcus Ware and Shaun Merriman. Wade wil work with Mario.....or not!
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If Denver was willing to give up Elvis and a 2011 2nd plus a 2011 2nd.

I would do that trade in a second.

MW is injury prone too.
My guess is that the only way this trade goes down, it's because Wade and the Texans know something about Mario's injury status that we don't know...............and neither does Denver.
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I think a more likely trade would be to give up the Texans 11th pick and a 3rd or 4th for Dumerville. We need a OLB anyways, so why not get a proven guy with a big contract instead of a rookie we hope does well?
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We need a OLB anyways, so why not get a proven guy with a big contract instead of a rookie we hope does well?
That contract is not big. It's obscene. It will be an albatross around the neck of that franchise.

The are defenders I would trade for Mario. DeMarcus Ware. Haloti Ngota. Darrelle Revis. Elvis Dumervil is not one of those defenders.
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Essentially, he will be playing similarly to LDE, which I think was his stronger side.
What does it mean to play LDE?

What's the difference between LDE & RDE?

Why is he stronger on the Left side?
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Mario will be the guy we all want him to be!!! ie..DeMarcus Ware and Shaun Merriman. Wade wil work with Mario.....or not!
Most of us, and Wade (judging by what he's said) don't see Mario as an OLB like Merriman, or Ware.
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My guess is that the only way this trade goes down, it's because Wade and the Texans know something about Mario's injury status that we don't know...............and neither does Denver.
This won't go down, because this is not a trade proposal. It's not on the table, Denver is not talking to Houston. Houston is not talking to Denver.

This is just a figment of some nobody's imagination.
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What does it mean to play LDE?

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Why is he stronger on the Left side?
Normally, the LDE is covered by a tackle and a TE. He almost never plays the 9 technique (which is lining up very wide, even wide of the TE).
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Normally, the LDE is covered by a tackle and a TE. He almost never plays the 9 technique (which is lining up very wide, even wide of the TE).
I agree that Mario played better on the strong side of the formation..He seems to thrive when he's consistently engaging blockers...

Put him in space and he looks a little less comfortable...
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Care to expound on this a bit? I don't quite understand your reasoning
i'm saying that Williams is a fast powerful Defensive End and to get rid of such a play maker would be foolish, especially to bring in a guy who recently came off of a bad injury.
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i'm saying that Williams is a fast powerful Defensive End and to get rid of such a play maker would be foolish, especially to bring in a guy who recently came off of a bad injury.
But why are you saying W. Phillips needs to go?
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Normally, the LDE is covered by a tackle and a TE. He almost never plays the 9 technique (which is lining up very wide, even wide of the TE).
I don't think so Dale.
Mario played the 9 technique very often.

I haven't break down his games this year; but the previous year, he was equally effective as a strong side end as a weak side end.
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I agree that Mario played better on the strong side of the formation..He seems to thrive when he's consistently engaging blockers...

Put him in space and he looks a little less comfortable...
I asked, not because I didn't know, but because Mario always followed the TE. He didn't play RDE or LDE, he played Strongside DE, wherever the TE lined up out of the huddle, that's where Mario was.

In Wade's 3-4, he'll line up the exact same way.

The Weak Side OLB will be our rush LB.
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But why are you saying W. Phillips needs to go?
well i'm sure it would be wade who was the determining factor on the trade. considering its his style of defense and he's needing certain "types" of players. I'm sure he's saying who we need and who we don't. You think if he hadn't come here that trading Mario would of ever come up ???
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well i'm sure it would be wade who was the determining factor on the trade. considering its his style of defense and he's needing certain "types" of players. I'm sure he's saying who we need and who we don't. You think if he hadn't come here that trading Mario would of ever come up ???
It didn't come up by anyone other than a radio talk show host that is not even from these parts!
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It didn't come up by anyone other than a radio talk show host that is not even from these parts!
i'm not saying its true, i know its all speculation, but i'd be pretty mad IF it did happen. Do i think it will ??? NO, but u never know.
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I don't think so Dale.
Mario played the 9 technique very often.

I haven't break down his games this year; but the previous year, he was equally effective as a strong side end as a weak side end.
I didn't see it last year.
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This won't go down, because this is not a trade proposal. It's not on the table, Denver is not talking to Houston. Houston is not talking to Denver.

This is just a figment of some nobody's imagination whose whole schtick is saying things that outrage his listeners so they call in and argue.
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Mario is the more all around DE but both of them are good at what they do. Neither one stays healthy which is the problem I have with this.
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Normally, the LDE is covered by a tackle and a TE. He almost never plays the 9 technique (which is lining up very wide, even wide of the TE).
Mario plays the 9-tech mostly in a front called the Miami front (from Jimmy Johnson - Hurricanes to Cowboys).
It's a 4-man Over Front with the strong side DE lining up outside the TE.
A quick scan of the Colts game in week 1 shows him there at least a dozen time in the first half.
There's benefit both against the run and the pass because Mario is such a monster (when he's healthy.)
You can try to imagine why or I can come back to it later.

It's nothing new since we had used Mario this way for quite a few years already.

Not only that, when we're in the Under Front, as the weak side rush end, we also lined him up wide (sometimes as wide with the same spacing as if there's a TE there and he's a 9-tech).

We do that in a 3-man front at times as well.

It's not just Mario, we use other DEs that way from time to time as well.
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