Wake up call needed

[aussie_texan]

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

Repped!!! Although, I didn't see any "count" on your rep...

ahaha thanks man! yeah its says i got 19197 points on my user control panel but it doesnt appear anywhere else. is that how it works or....

[Texan_Bill]

Originally Posted by aussie_texan

ahaha thanks man! yeah its says i got 19197 points on my user control panel but it doesnt appear anywhere else. is that how it works or....

RIGHT!!! What the heck is that all about, anyway??


Show Aussie some respect!!

[aussie_texan]

u got that right lol

[dalemurphy]

Originally Posted by srrono

Are the Texans aware the offseason has started? Even my great grandmother knows the Texans need significant personal moves on the defensive side of the ball due to change of scheme and frankly because the defense was just bad last year.

One position of need is safety and two big name safeties are now on the market. Another position needing a upgrade is NT there is a big name NT on the market as well. I am not saying we have to sign OJ Atogwe, Bob sanders, or Shaun Rogers but the Texans should be bringing these players in for a look and a conversation. If one of the three would fit here then that is one less position needed in the draft.

Sanders to visit Jaguars today.
Atogwe will meet with the Washington Redskins.
Rogers has met with Washington,Kansas City, and New Orleans.

The Texans are yet to have a visit from any player.

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Atogwe has accumulated a lot of injuries the past two seasons and is nearing 30 years old, looking for a big pay day.

Bob Sanders has no cartlidge in one of his knees.

Shaun Rogers is 32, a chronic underachiever with an inconsistent motor, who is looking for a big pay day.

Why on earth would the Texans even consider these guys when the market is about to be flooded with defensive free agents entering or in their prime (either on March 4th or when the collective bargaining agreement is reached)?


With all the problems the Texans have had as an organization, do you really want them to start doing business like Dan Snyder? I don't see how that will help the situation.

[BetaV1]

Originally Posted by dalemurphy

Atogwe has accumulated a lot of injuries the past two seasons and is nearing 30 years old, looking for a big pay day.

Bob Sanders has no cartlidge in one of his knees.

Shaun Rogers is 32, a chronic underachiever with an inconsistent motor, who is looking for a big pay day.

Why on earth would the Texans even consider these guys when the market is about to be flooded with defensive free agents entering or in their prime (either on March 4th or when the collective bargaining agreement is reached)?


With all the problems the Texans have had as an organization, do you really want them to start doing business like Dan Snyder? I don't see how that will help the situation.

Repped.

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by Texan_Bill

Right!! Same here!!

That said, I will be in Blue Crew, tailgating for every homegame.... Ima dumbass that way!!

I'll be doing the same with our crew over in the yellow lot.

My wife asks me why I waste $$$$ and time on the Texans. My answer is there's nothing better than hanging out with friends and watching/talking about football.

That and I've hung in there this long and sooner or later they gotta get better right? LOL

[steelbtexan]

I'l take a Sanders with no cartilidge in his knees for half a season over what the Texans had playing S last yr.

[dalemurphy]

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

I'l take a Sanders with no cartilidge in his knees for half a season over what the Texans had playing S last yr.

Sanders wasn't able to play for half a season last year. He played in one game and didn't register a tackle. As a matter of a fact, he has played in 3 games over the past two seasons and only 9 games over the past three seasons... He's done. So, though it is a tough call, I actually would rather have what the Texans had last year over what the Texans had last year minus whomever Sanders would replace before he headed immediately to the IR.

but, my point is not whether Bob Sanders is an upgrade over Dominique Barber. The point is that there are going to be a lot of better options in free agency once it starts. Believe me, I'll be the first to complain if we don't take a run at anyone. But, I'm not going to criticize the organization for not throwing money at a guy that is physically unable to play football anymore. That's just stupid.

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by dalemurphy

Sanders wasn't able to play for half a season last year. He played in one game and didn't register a tackle. As a matter of a fact, he has played in 3 games over the past two seasons and only 9 games over the past three seasons... He's done. So, though it is a tough call, I actually would rather have what the Texans had last year over what the Texans had last year minus whomever Sanders would replace before he headed immediately to the IR.

but, my point is not whether Bob Sanders is an upgrade over Dominique Barber. The point is that there are going to be a lot of better options in free agency once it starts. Believe me, I'll be the first to complain if we don't take a run at anyone. But, I'm not going to criticize the organization for not throwing money at a guy that is physically unable to play football anymore. That's just stupid.

I'm willing to let the offseason play out before I criticize them.

But history says it's not promising.

[BigBull17]

Originally Posted by steelbtexan

I'l take a Sanders with no cartilidge in his knees for half a season over what the Texans had playing S last yr.

Sanders can't stay healthy. I wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole. The difference between our ****ty players and Sanders is they can actually stay healthy.

[Porky]

I'm too the point where I don't much care anymore. I check out TT maybe once or twice a week, but it's all pointless to me at this point. The last straw was Mcnoob bringing back the same tired old braintrust that is a proven failure. Mcnoob is rearranging the deck chairs and asking the fiddler to play to keep the people from panicking after we have already hit the iceburg.

Untill the head of this monster is cut off, it doesn't matter what the individual arms and legs do. Mcnair is the head, and he is the part that is broken. Until the head is replaced, the arms and legs will continue to flail about and all we will be doing is spinning our wheels. He is one of the 5 worst owners in the league. If we can't at least admit that is where the problem lies, then it's all just for show. It's totally and completely pointless.

Is there a light at the end of this tunnel? I don't see one.

[infantrycak]

What's totally and completely pointless is calling for an ownership change as a solution to the Texans' ills. There hasn't been even a whiff of a rumor about McNair selling the team. To the contrary if anything it appears he wants the team to ultimately go to his son. So dig in for a few decades.

[Porky]

Originally Posted by infantrycak

What's totally and completely pointless is calling for an ownership change as a solution to the Texans' ills. There hasn't been even a whiff of a rumor about McNair selling the team. To the contrary if anything it appears he wants the team to ultimately go to his son. So dig in for a few decades.

I'm not calling for anything, only pointing out what I see as the obvious problem. Hence why I said at the end - Is there a light at the end of this tunnel? I don't see one.

This is Detroit south because of this ownership group. All this FA and draft talk is only nibbling around the edges. It's not going to change a damn thing in the long run. Is it possible we'll get lucky for a year? Sure. But if people think we are heading toward a NE or Pittsburg like product, it's isn't happening. That is depressing and the reason for my apathy.

[dalemurphy]

Originally Posted by Porky

I'm not calling for anything, only pointing out what I see as the obvious problem. Hence why I said at the end - Is there a light at the end of this tunnel? I don't see one.

This is Detroit south because of this ownership group. All this FA and draft talk is only nibbling around the edges. It's not going to change a damn thing in the long run. Is it possible we'll get lucky for a year? Sure. But if people think we are heading toward a NE or Pittsburg like product, it's isn't happening. That is depressing and the reason for my apathy.

How do you think Steeler fans felt about their prospects in the late 1960s... Or, do you think most Patriots fans were anticipating the turnaround they saw after Parcells left, Carroll was fired, and that loser from Cleveland (Belicheck) was hired to replace them. Oh, and I bet they weren't exactly doing cartwheels when Bledsoe went down with an injury with a 1-3 record and all they had as a backup was a second year, 6th round pick out of Michigan who couldn't even beat out a freshman in his senior year at Michigan for the starting position.

I'm certainly frustrated with the past season and disappointed we haven't had more success the last 5 years or so. However, I don't see the top of the organization behaving in a way that guarantees failure moving forward. Organizations like Washington, Cincinnati, Oakland are doomed. I don't see that with Houston. I can't predict success but I don't see the reason to be gloomy moving forward. Also, I think a lot of folks are going to be pleasantly surprised with how active the team is in free agency this season (whenever it happens).

[Marcus]

Originally Posted by infantrycak

What's totally and completely pointless is calling for an ownership change as a solution to the Texans' ills. There hasn't been even a whiff of a rumor about McNair selling the team. To the contrary if anything it appears he wants the team to ultimately go to his son. So dig in for a few decades.

What's really the difference between calling for "ownership change", or complaining about "Denny's menus", or railing on about silly things like "it's on me" or "we didn't execute"?

The point is . . . when the team is losing, the "fans" act like they have a right to dispense with common sense and logic, and try to outdo each other in the "act and behave like a f'ckin moron" department.

[nero THE zero]

Originally Posted by EllisUnit

i have seen people/articles mention it. Id rather move Jackson to Safety as i think Quinn is a better cover CB than Jackson. But that is still not a good move IMO. I say Pollard and Nolan back deep. With J. Allen, a FA then Quinn at CB.

Who? And where?

I'm talking about established journalists from a respectable news source, hence main stream, not some blogger proposing it.

[houstonspartan]

Originally Posted by dalemurphy

How do you think Steeler fans felt about their prospects in the late 1960s... Or, do you think most Patriots fans were anticipating the turnaround they saw after Parcells left, Carroll was fired, and that loser from Cleveland (Belicheck) was hired to replace them. Oh, and I bet they weren't exactly doing cartwheels when Bledsoe went down with an injury with a 1-3 record and all they had as a backup was a second year, 6th round pick out of Michigan who couldn't even beat out a freshman in his senior year at Michigan for the starting position.

I'm certainly frustrated with the past season and disappointed we haven't had more success the last 5 years or so. However, I don't see the top of the organization behaving in a way that guarantees failure moving forward. Organizations like Washington, Cincinnati, Oakland are doomed. I don't see that with Houston. I can't predict success but I don't see the reason to be gloomy moving forward. Also, I think a lot of folks are going to be pleasantly surprised with how active the team is in free agency this season (whenever it happens).

Yawn. You pretty much said the same thing last year.

I'm just laughing at the term "couch coach".

LOL!

[Porky]

Originally Posted by dalemurphy

How do you think Steeler fans felt about their prospects in the late 1960s... Or, do you think most Patriots fans were anticipating the turnaround they saw after Parcells left, Carroll was fired, and that loser from Cleveland (Belicheck) was hired to replace them. Oh, and I bet they weren't exactly doing cartwheels when Bledsoe went down with an injury with a 1-3 record and all they had as a backup was a second year, 6th round pick out of Michigan who couldn't even beat out a freshman in his senior year at Michigan for the starting position.

I'm certainly frustrated with the past season and disappointed we haven't had more success the last 5 years or so. However, I don't see the top of the organization behaving in a way that guarantees failure moving forward. Organizations like Washington, Cincinnati, Oakland are doomed. I don't see that with Houston. I can't predict success but I don't see the reason to be gloomy moving forward. Also, I think a lot of folks are going to be pleasantly surprised with how active the team is in free agency this season (whenever it happens).

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on me.

[steelbtexan]

Originally Posted by Marcus

What's really the difference between calling for "ownership change", or complaining about "Denny's menus", or railing on about silly things like "it's on me" or "we didn't execute"?

The point is . . . when the team is losing, the "fans" act like they have a right to dispense with common sense and logic, and try to outdo each other in the "act and behave like a f'ckin moron" department.

Please enlighten the fans on your idea of proper decorum regarding the Texans.

You would be griping too if you were financially invested in the Texans/McNair and he sat there and twiddled his thumbs while the team crumbled.

This is a waste of time responding to fans like you. But it is very representative of the way BoB thinks. Elitism at its finest.

BoB knows best LOL, 9 yrs 0 playoff appearances says it all.

[Blake]

Originally Posted by Double Barrel

You don't have to be a veterinarian to recognize a dog turd.

But, keep waving them pom poms. It's cute.

Quote of the day. Franchise has never been to the playoffs but dont dare try and second guess them. They are NFL coaches after all!