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Old 02-19-2011   #21
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If Cushing plays at his 2010 level, in a 3-4 scheme, my opinion is that he is likely to be truly effective ONLY as a rush defender whether placed at the outside or inside position.
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I found this part of the article interesting.

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I think Mario falls into the same category of we’ll start him out at defensive end and then see where he goes. Hopefully that’ll work out there, and if it doesn’t, then we’ll find another place to put him.
So if he doesn't work out at DE, where do we line him up? OLB? NT?
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I found this part of the article interesting.



So if he doesn't work out at DE, where do we line him up? OLB? NT?
Gives me such a warm and fuzzy feeling as to the new "immediate impact" direction the D will be taking.

On a brighter note, each Texans defensive coach has been issued official proven decision-making NFL equipment.

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To me Cushing is very much a niche player, and his specialty is clearly as a 4-3 SAM, and in addition using the 15th overall pick on a 3-4 ILB is a waste of resources though of course that wasn't origionally the Texans intentions for Cushing.
nothing the Texans do surprises me. just a bunch of inept losers who have no business being in positions of power. this offseason we get all the growing pains of having a new head coach...WITHOUT A NEW HEAD COACH!!

McNair, Kubiak, and Rick. you all really suck so bad. Please go away and go **** yourselves.
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Maybe the Texans could grab Casey Matthews in the 3rd with thier extra pick from Dunta.

6'1 ht 232 wt

Best known for his deep football bloodlines, Matthews really carved out his own identity with a spectacular All-Pac-10 senior season culminated with a truly outstanding performance in the BCS National Championship against Auburn.

He helped keep Cam Newton in check, making plays behind the line of scrimmage as well as in coverage against the pass, and forced a key late fumble by chasing Newton down from behind. It was an MVP-worthy performance had Oregon won.

As an NFL prospect, Matthews projects to be a steady and heady inside linebacker in either a 4-3 or a 3-4.

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Positives: Two-plus-year starter is an instinctive playmaker and a passionate team leader. Almost always around the ball. Sure tackler who rarely misses. Excellent at diagnosing and getting in position to make plays. Can anchor against blocks, shed blocks and make plays off blocks. Made a lot of plays behind the line. Can run and shut off the wide rush. Has good ball skills and made plays in coverage. Top intangibles: healthy, durable, productive, football smart and from a legendary football family.

Negatives: Played in a system that had him blitzing, immediately or delayed, for a ridiculously high percentage of plays, which inflated his sacks/TFL stats. Not blazingly fast. Slightly stiff in the hips, doesn't have great change of direction ability and could struggle in man coverage vs. NFL tight ends and backs. Rarely beat the block once picked up on the blitz. While good at just about everything, not truly elite in any category.

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With Ryans coming off of injury this kid has a active motor seems to make plays would be a good depth player
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You are working pretty well my friend

Herrring and I quote

Well, I think the first rule of thumb is don’t get locked into a thought and put yourself in a position where you say, ‘This is the only place they can play.’ We have to have flexibility, and initially until we work out the kinks and find the proper places for everybody, where they can be the most productive for this team, we’re probably going to take a look at Brian inside at the Mike ‘backer position, strongside on the tight end, and then DeMeco will be the weakside Mo inside ‘backer. (They’ll be) the Mike and the Mo, two inside guys. We’ve got to take advantage of what we see in Brian Cushing as a tremendous anchor on the tight end side as far as securing the box physically in the run game, and then using him in our package to pressure and blitz him on the inside. At Dallas, Bradie James, same position, led the NFL in inside linebackers in sacks. He had eight in one year in this package from blitzing inside. So the numbers are there, the opportunities will be there.

I hadn't even read that...Wow...
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To me Cushing is very much a niche player, and his specialty is clearly as a 4-3 SAM, and in addition using the 15th overall pick on a 3-4 ILB is a waste of resources though of course that wasn't origionally the Texans intentions for Cushing.
funny how every good/great 3-4 defence has a high pick/ big FA @ ILB

steelers: laurence timmons (#15 overall), farrior (#8 overall)
ravens: ray ray (#26 overall)
jets: david harris (#47), bart scott
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i think cush will be a good ilb in a 3-4, its where i wanted to put him as soon as wade got the gig. he gets to rush more and will have alot of the same duties as an 4-3 under sam with regard to run D. dont think hes an elite enough rusher to be a dominating 3-4 olb.
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i think cush will be a good ilb in a 3-4, its where i wanted to put him as soon as wade got the gig. he gets to rush more and will have alot of the same duties as an 4-3 under sam with regard to run D. dont think hes an elite enough rusher to be a dominating 3-4 olb.
I agree, Cush is not a 3-4 OLB, he is not fast enough.
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I agree, Cush is not a 3-4 OLB, he is not fast enough.
One of Cushing's selling points was his production early in USC career playing DE despite lack of foot speed to be considered a pure edge rusher. However his motor & desire to excell more than qualify but when playing next to DeMeco he is so much more productive, this makes a lot of sense. Now Rick Smith & his scouting department need to add elite speed on the outside, even if trading up is nessecary. I think it's down to just a couple names, Von Miller & the Mighty Quinn.
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Maybe the Texans could grab Casey Matthews in the 3rd with thier extra pick from Dunta.

just a quick question.
when do we find out about the compensatory pick??
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just a quick question.
when do we find out about the compensatory pick??
Compensatory picks are awarded each year at the NFL annual meeting which is held at the end of March; typically, about three or four weeks before the draft.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nationa...ensatory_picks
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Compensatory picks are awarded each year at the NFL annual meeting which is held at the end of March; typically, about three or four weeks before the draft.

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Sounds like there's some disagreement within the organization regarding Mario's role. I don't know if it is between Herring and Phillips, the former wanting him at OLB and the latter at DE, or between Mario and the coaching staff, or both. But, there seems to be a lot of ambiguity and uncertainty every time someone answers questions about his role in the 3-4.
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Sounds like there's some disagreement within the organization regarding Mario's role. I don't know if it is between Herring and Phillips, the former wanting him at OLB and the latter at DE, or between Mario and the coaching staff, or both. But, there seems to be a lot of ambiguity and uncertainty every time someone answers questions about his role in the 3-4.
Makes sense, this is the Texans organization we're talking about.

MW needs to quit crying,man up and play DE in the 3-4.

The inmates have been running the asylum for far to long.
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Von ain't gonna be there at 11.
It will definitely show a change in the way we do business in Houston.

A most welcome change, depending on what we would have to give up to go up & get him.
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We disagree. Using our #11 in 2007 on a 3-4 ILB was not a waste of our resources. If anything, it may have been the only good pick we made in the last 5 years.

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of your 11th overall pick in that Draft. God knows we Texans' fans are stilling kicking ourselves (rather that is kicking Smith-Kubiak) for not taking Willis or CB Revis instead of the "boy wonder". But I still stick with my origional statment which I think is valid generally speaking.
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To me Cushing is very much a niche player, and his specialty is clearly as a 4-3 SAM, and in addition using the 15th overall pick on a 3-4 ILB is a waste of resources though of course that wasn't origionally the Texans intentions for Cushing.
Never mind using the #1 overall on a 3-4 DE.....


It is what it is...... we screwed up in the past. Now, we need to focus on going forward.

1) If Mario & Cushing are "too" talented for a 3-4 defense, we win right?

2) Technically we are removing a DE & putting a LB in his spot. Wade says there isn't much difference between his 3-4 & a 4-3 front. Mario should continue to line up as a 5 tech.... Cushing has played next to Demeco a lot.... in our 4-3, Cushing & Diles didn't switch sides when the TE shifted. Diles would move up to the line over the TE (becoming the SAM) & Cushing would fall back, next to Demeco (basically the WILL) where he will basically play in the 3-4.

Cushing can still be used to rush the QB. He can still run stunts with the DE/DT...... he'll be able to run more affective blitzes, like delays. He won't be able to set the edge on running plays anymore (next to Mario he was the only one on the team who could effectively set the edge with consistency). He won't be able to rush the passer from the outside...... which is fine, if Anderson is still on the team, or Barwin is back to being Barwin, they rush the passer as well as Cushing did on the edge.

What we didn't have, is someone who could rush the passer effectively up the middle.
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They need to realize, it's this year or bust. Go for broke and trade up to get Miller. Can't imagine any FA OLB or draft pick that would have the skills to match Miller's/ Clay Mathews Jr. style.
Not even Clay Matthews Jr. played like Clay Matthews Jr. as a rookie.


But Von Miller can.....
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We disagree. Using our #11 in 2007 on a 3-4 ILB was not a waste of our resources. If anything, it may have been the only good pick we made in the last 5 years.

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The heart of the 3-4 is the backers on the outside because unlike in the 4-3 they are the primary edge-rushers
Wrong..... Greg Ellis was transformed to OLB opposite Ware. He didn't like it, because he was no longer a primary pass rusher. He covered the TE.

The weakside OLB will rush the QB on almost every down. The Strongside DE will rush the QB from the other side. The Strongside OLB will blitz, but not on every down, and it will be so infrequently, the QB won't know if he's coming or going.

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and the Texans are so screwed at that position right now because the only guy who really looks like a fit is Barwin and he has (1) only played defensive football 2 years, and just one of those in the NFL and he's only played DE in the 4-3, so he has no 3-4 experience (2) he's coming off of a very serious season-ending injury from 2010 and nobody really knows when he'll be ready to go ?
Wrong. Nading is definitely not a 4-3 DE. He may look a lot better as an OLB.

And what's up with Mark Anderson? I think he's as good an OLB prospect as anyone out there in FA or the draft.
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