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Old 02-19-2011   #61
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Eugene and Pollard are one of the main reason why our secondary sucks ..... One down one two go !!!!!!!!!!!!!
i wouldnt mine if pollard stays. in a 3-4 he would be more used against the run and not need to cover as much and we all know how good he is against the run.

if we get a ballhawking cover free safety and CB then ill be happy with pollard and i think he could return to 2010 standard and not have the responsibility of covering and be dominate against the run.
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And I never understood why we were using Slaton instead of Davis on returns. I never really understood the knock against Davis in general.
Maybe because Davis was on IR all of last year?
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Well that frees up about a fifth of what we need per year to sign Aso!!!!!!! LOL, now go pay the man Rick!!! You know if Aso walked of the plane to meet the Texans with Nike's with "Pay me Rick" I think I'd be OK with it......
Whatever it takes to get ASO/Bailey etc... here.

Move Quin to FS and draft McDaniel in the 2nd rd.

The secondary would look much better next yr.

Davis was a really good gunner on ST's and that's why the ST's weren't as good last yr.
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Whatever it takes to get ASO/Bailey etc... here.

Move Quin to FS and draft McDaniel in the 2nd rd.

The secondary would look much better next yr.

Davis was a really good gunner on ST's and that's why the ST's weren't as good last yr.
Steelb, while I agree that AD was a good gunner and was missed on ST's last year, I don't think that's the main reason they sucked so badly last year. I feel it was very much a group effort. From Turk being the league leading shankopotomus to returners, punts & kickoffs, that couldn't get back hardley ever past the 25 yd line! Yes, a group effort indeed. ;^)

I hope they fill up a charter plane with UDFA punters next season and find a boot in the bunch.
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Steelb, while I agree that AD was a good gunner and was missed on ST's last year, I don't think that's the main reason they sucked so badly last year. I feel it was very much a group effort. From Turk being the league leading shankopotomus to returners, punts & kickoffs, that couldn't get back hardley ever past the 25 yd line! Yes, a group effort indeed. ;^)

I hope they fill up a charter plane with UDFA punters next season and find a boot in the bunch.
Group effort, agreed

Man they were bad last yr

A plane full of UDFA punters,that would be an interesting flight. LOL

I'm on board with bringing in a plane full though.
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Reed has one more year left on his contract.
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He filled in adequately for AJ a couple of years ago. Did he ever drop balls or incorrectly run routes?
That read harser than I meant it today versus last night. anyway Andre Davis went on IR before the season started.
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Possibly the decision has been made to move Glover Quin to FS replacing Wilson?
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Possibly the decision has been made to move Glover Quin to FS replacing Wilson?
Seems that way.

Wonder who's going to replace Quin at CB?

Are they going to draft another CB in the 1st. Or are they going to sign a Vet FA CB?

If we knew those answers then we would know what their draft board is looking like.
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Seems that way.

Wonder who's going to replace Quin at CB?

Are they going to draft another CB in the 1st. Or are they going to sign a Vet FA CB?

If we knew those answers then we would know what their draft board is looking like.
If the Texans knew those answers then they would know what their draft board is looking like.
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Apologies if it was posted. I didn't see it on the front page.

http://www.myfoxhouston.com/dpp/spor...elease-players

Texans' five cuts saved the team $9.7 million in projected 2011 salary. Andre' Davis ($4.7M) and Eugene Wilson ($3.56M). Nice.
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We have at least 5 quality receivers already on the roster WITHOUT Davis: AJ, KW, JJ, DA, and DD. Why keep paying starter money to a 6th wideout who doesn't even return kicks anymore?
I'm fine with cutting Davis. If we aren't using him, we aren't using him. My question is "why aren't we using him?"

Bob ( & many of his patrons here) point to the excellent offense we had in 2010, but when we needed to score, we came up short, often. There isn't another WR on this team with world class speed other than Andre, except Andre. We should have been using that. Jacoby is a playmaker, but we can't seem to get the ball in his hands.... (drops non-withstanding).

Maybe it's just my perception. But I would have thought an offensive guru would be creative enough to spread the ball much better than we did. Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce, Az Hakim & a bunch of other receivers were deadly, but Faulk was able to get more than enough touches.

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Right, other than that 34-24 beat down. The Colts aren't the AFC standard anymore and their offense (when not playing the Texans) isn't at 2004 levels. It's time we pick a new team to mold ourselves in the image of (Pittsburgh, perhaps?)
My point about Indy, when they were the model, they scored when they needed to. Early & often, which allowed their defense to be aggressive, to bend but not break..... we've been crying about how poor our defense has been all year.

Indy has had some terrible defenses. The Greatest Show on turf has had some horrible defenses. Statistically, the Patriots' defense wasn't all that great. Yet those teams make it to the play-offs.
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I'm fine with cutting Davis. If we aren't using him, we aren't using him. My question is "why aren't we using him?"

Bob ( & many of his patrons here) point to the excellent offense we had in 2010, but when we needed to score, we came up short, often. There isn't another WR on this team with world class speed other than Andre, except Andre. We should have been using that. Jacoby is a playmaker, but we can't seem to get the ball in his hands.... (drops non-withstanding).

Maybe it's just my perception. But I would have thought an offensive guru would be creative enough to spread the ball much better than we did. Torry Holt, Isaac Bruce, Az Hakim & a bunch of other receivers were deadly, but Faulk was able to get more than enough touches.

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That read harser than I meant it today versus last night. anyway Andre Davis went on IR before the season started.
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In preseason, Davis sustained what was sometimes referred to as a "hip injury" and sometimes as a "tailbone injury." Looking back now, it is very probable that he dislocated or fractured his coccyx (tailbone) and had the classic accompanying severe "hip" pains. The problem with such an injury is that even after "healing" which can take over a year, movement at the dislocation or fracture site can still occur, very commonly causing chronic unrelenting debiliatating pain with progressive arthritis. Not a great type of injury for an athlete such as a bicyclist or a runner (which a WR is), since with even no additional direct trauma, intense repeated movements of the hip joint can be excrutiating.
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I would have kept Bing he played well when he was healthy.
Bing does not fit the new system at all, he was a fit in the old style defense, if you could call it a style.
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Maybe because Davis was on IR all of last year?
Let me rephrase: Why weren't we using a hobbled Andre Davis instead of Slaton on returns?
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Bing does not fit the new system at all, he was a fit in the old style defense, if you could call it a style.
Wilson and Davis were amongst my favorite players though. Bummer.
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Call me crazy, but I think we need another receiver. The crew we have is not backing up AJ enough. And, I'm about ready for Jacoby to be gone. This is like the third year we are waiting for him to "mature" and break-out.
i agree about needing more depth at WR. I think someone in place of DA. i like the guy but speed and size isnt there. he's like the rotten cousin u cant get rid of all summer. I do like what i saw in Dorin Dickerson though, reminds me so much of AJ. I was hoping they woulda gave him more shots last season especially when we were out of the play-offs.
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. Jacoby is a playmaker, but we can't seem to get the ball in his hands....
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