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Before the Draft 4 8.33%
After the Draft but before OTAs 2 4.17%
After OTAs but before Training Camp 11 22.92%
During Preseason 7 14.58%
Into the Season weeks 1-3 6 12.50%
Into the Season weeks 4-6 7 14.58%
Into the Season after week 6 5 10.42%
Cancel the season 6 12.50%
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Old 02-13-2011   #1
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Default When do you think the Labor Agreement will be finalized?

Just curious what everybody's thoughts are on the subject?

I believe everybody's going to have to lose some money first before a deal will be done.

I hope I'm wrong.
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Into the Season after week 6 is what I voted. I'll believe an agreement when I see it. I hope I'm wrong. I'll be ecstatic if I'm wrong.

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Into the Season after week 6 is what I voted. I'll believe an agreement when I see it. I hope I'm wrong. I'll be ecstatic if I'm wrong.

Ditto. Both sides will actually have to suffer financially before an agreement is reached. Greed will rule the day.
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I think the season gets canceled, unfortunately. It does not seem like either side will budge. I hope I am proved wrong though.
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I think the season gets canceled, unfortunately. It does not seem like either side will budge. I hope I am proved wrong though.
Me too. I think it's gotta hit them in the wallet before there are any moves. As everyone knows the owner's wallets are the deepest so until players start getting squeezed there'll be no product on the field.

I hope we're both proven wrong.
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Ditto. Both sides will actually have to suffer financially before an agreement is reached. Greed will rule the day.
I'm guessing week 4.

The problem is the owner are still going to get their TV $$$$. So there is no urgency on their side.

DeMaurice Smith isn't a NFL guy and is going to drive a hard bargain. Smith looks at the NFL as a stepping stone position into politics. So untill the players put Smith on notice (probably after they start missing game checks and missing child support payments etc...) no deal is going to get done.
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I think the season gets canceled, unfortunately. It does not seem like either side will budge. I hope I am proved wrong though.
That's how I voted.

The owners won't budge. They won't concede any ground to the players.

I actually think there shouldn't be a draft if they don't have a new deal. How is that appropriate, to draft guys when there might not even be a season?

I know the argument is that you have to act as if things will be cleared up, so you gotta' go about business as usual to stay on track for having camp, preseason, and a reg season...it just is going to be weird to watch the draft and think those guys might not even PLAY.
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A Texans SB with scabs.
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A Texans SB with scabs.
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That'd be hilarious. Super Bowl champs with scabs at each position.
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Default Re: When do you think the Labor Agreement will be finalized?

I voted during the preseason...Im not certain but I don't think players get regular paychecks during the offseason so right now they are strong. As we get closer I think the players will start to crack b/c of those 2nd and 3rd tier players who don't make a lot (in NFL terms) plus those free agents with no contracts. Either way its a mess and truly the game belongs to the fans because its all entertainment. Yes the players risk their bodies and the owners shell out big $$$ but without us none of them would get shiza
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As a fan and season ticket holder I voted "Before the draft".

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Default Re: When do you think the Labor Agreement will be finalized?

I voted week 1 - 3 of the regular season. There will have to be some pain felt by both sides before anything is done.

Now, what I would like to see is a total collapse of the NFL for this year and a rival league start up that gives it a challange. I would like to see fans pissed as hell and not buy tickets next year. I would like to see the NFL feel the pain of their arrogance, and that pain hurts them badly.
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Default Re: When do you think the Labor Agreement will be finalized?

John Clayton's recent take:

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The next move in the collective bargaining talks belongs to the owners. And it probably will determine whether there will be a new deal that won't interrupt the football offseason as we know it.

All along, I have been optimistic that a deal can be done by March 15. The date is arbitrary, based mostly on the belief that both sides really want to get something done. The NFLPA lived up to the faith I had in both sides by making what I consider the perfect proposal. That offer of a 50-50 split of all revenues wasn't going to bring immediate harmony, but it showed what I thought all along -- that the players want to get a deal done.

In a Saturday meeting during Super Bowl week, both sides set aside two days a week through the end of the month to move the process. Although subcommittees from both sides have kept talking, the owners haven't changed their stance. In a business that grosses between $9 billion and $10 billion per year, the owners insist on receiving another $1 billion credit (they already receive $1 billion under the current CBA) for stadium financing and operating costs.

Even though they're not ready to make a deal, the owners need to make a counter that addresses their needs and acknowledges the movement of the players. No counter would show what players have feared for a long time -- that owners want to use a lockout to win the talks.

For everyone's sake, let's hope that's not the case.
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A strike wouldn't surprise me.
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If the Union decertifies, all bets are off as to how long 32 court battles will delay the appearance of ever seeing another NFL game
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2 days a week? WTF is Smith doing the other 5 days a week to earn his (large) paycheck during a time of crisis?
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Week 3 no later...




















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Before I have to pay for my Season Ticket (crossing fingers, toes and all other appendages capable of being crossed).
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Default Re: When do you think the Labor Agreement will be finalized?

I voted after OTA's but before training camp. A part of me is admittedly being hopeful with that vote, but it's the one I'm most optimistic for.

For the Texans sake, it needs to be done before camp. Unless someone can correct me, I'm fairly certain that if you're a player during the lockout, you can't even so much as look at a playbook. Imagine if a new agreement isn't reached until the season actually kicks off. We'd be going into the fire with virtually no preparation at all. While the defense will most certainly be better this season, it may not be by much unless a deal gets done and Wade gets a chance to work with these guys on the practice field.
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Not until these boneheads can set their pride aside, sit down to legitimate bargaining sessions without a side throwing a bitchfit and do whatever it takes to get a deal done. They both agreed to March 3rd so they should sit down night and day to get it done.

Will that happen? Hell no! Unless there's drastic change in mindset, we're screwed. YES, I SAID WE ARE SCREWED!
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