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Old 02-10-2011   #1
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A Veteran CB FA in the off season and Draft another kiddie CB instead then we will be in the same boat as last season.

1 Big Name CB will do the job, Resign Jason Allen to be our #2 CB. Jason Allen was easily the Best CB we had. His interceptions were all because he was covering his man and was in position to make the play, No Fluke INTs. In Fact i saw better coverage skills from him than i have seen from D-Rob since his 1st/second seasons.

Make Quin our #3/Nickle CB.

Make K. Jackson the water boy

Although I Like the way Troy Nolan Plays i'm not sure he is ready to be our everyday guy HE WILL BE ONEDAY, I would take him way over Wilson though. I also say Keep Pollard We have a #1, Allen, Quinn we wont need Pollard to do much pass Defense. IMO



Allen INT vs Eagles
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...INT?r_src=ramp And Look Troy Nolan Was in Position to help out over the top

Allen INT vs Titans
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-game-h...ins?r_src=ramp

Allen INt vs Broncos
http://www.nfl.com/videos/houston-te...000d5d81d36883



I posted something similar earlier but it got moved cause i had a Quote from a Mock Draft
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Couldn't you post this in one of the existing threads?
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Couldn't you post this in one of the existing threads?
No i didnt cause i was focusing on more than aspect of our secondary, its not just about FAs. i figured i could start a new thread for it, if not my bad. Its slow off season just trying to keep up the spirits.
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I want to see Troy Nolan get a legit chance to start if we don't add a big name FA at FS. He has a knack at being around the ball and making big plays.

If we can tighten up his coverage a little bit, he can be a playmaker. He was basically a rookie last season.
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I want to see Troy Nolan get a legit chance to start if we don't add a big name FA at FS. He has a knack at being around the ball and making big plays.

If we can tighten up his coverage a little bit, he can be a playmaker. He was basically a rookie last season.
yeah he showed promise. I dont mind them giving him a shot but a back up plan after last season with our secondary would be nice.
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I believe this is the Texans biggest issue... they have ADD
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I want to see Troy Nolan get a legit chance to start if we don't add a big name FA at FS. He has a knack at being around the ball and making big plays.

If we can tighten up his coverage a little bit, he can be a playmaker. He was basically a rookie last season.
I don't understand everyone's enthusiasm for Troy Nolan to start. If I remember correctly, didn't he get an opportunity to start early on during the 2010 season? He gave up a lot of big plays.

He plays well when given a limited role, but fails to meet the critera when starting. But like you said, he was basically a rookie last season so I'm still optimistic about him. He just needs more time to learn about the intricacies of the game.
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I think some of us are a little snake-bit. I don't think starting young corners was our biggest problem last season. Starting the young corners we did was a big issues, but it wasn't because they were young.

Starting those young corners in front of Wilson & Pollard was a pretty big issue.

Starting those young corners behind those LBs..... biggest issue IMO.

I like our LBs. I believe they are athletic enough to do the job they are supposed to.... Same as our CBs. Wilson..... not so much. Pollard..... eehhh..

I'd feel 100% fine with letting Pollard walk & letting Nolan take his spot. Of course we should bring other SS in to try take the job from Nolan.... barring a better option, I'm saying he should be the SS.

FS, I'd happily go forward thinking Quin will be our FS. Again, unless we can find someone better.

Jason Allen & KJac as our starting corners.......

I think that will "shore up" our secondary for a little while, allowing us to focus on DL, LBs, & TE in FA & the draft.

I kid about the TE, but if this Julio Jones is who they say he is & he's there at 11, we can take him, then go DL/LB later in the draft.
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I think some of us are a little snake-bit. I don't think starting young corners was our biggest problem last season. Starting the young corners we did was a big issues, but it wasn't because they were young.

Starting those young corners in front of Wilson & Pollard was a pretty big issue.

Starting those young corners behind those LBs..... biggest issue IMO.

I like our LBs. I believe they are athletic enough to do the job they are supposed to.... Same as our CBs. Wilson..... not so much. Pollard..... eehhh..

I'd feel 100% fine with letting Pollard walk & letting Nolan take his spot. Of course we should bring other SS in to try take the job from Nolan.... barring a better option, I'm saying he should be the SS.

FS, I'd happily go forward thinking Quin will be our FS. Again, unless we can find someone better.

Jason Allen & KJac as our starting corners.......

I think that will "shore up" our secondary for a little while, allowing us to focus on DL, LBs, & TE in FA & the draft.

I kid about the TE, but if this Julio Jones is who they say he is & he's there at 11, we can take him, then go DL/LB later in the draft.
would rather have Quinn and Allen, and Jackson as our FS. BUT dont like none of those options TBH. I think we need a big name CB, and i expect we will get one this off season.
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would rather have Quinn and Allen, and Jackson as our FS. BUT dont like none of those options TBH. I think we need a big name CB, and i expect we will get one this off season.
I'm pretty sure we will get a big named corner back, pushing KJac to nickel.

But...... CB was not our biggest problem, KJac definitely wasn't. It's perception. I'm sure McNair wants to address perception.
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I'm pretty sure we will get a big named corner back, pushing KJac to nickel.

But...... CB was not our biggest problem, KJac definitely wasn't. It's perception. I'm sure McNair wants to address perception.

If you go based on pure talent, then he was. Put Coaching/play calling aside. i Dont think he has what it takes to be a shut down CB. Could i be wrong, of course, but after no improvement all season i just don't see it happening.
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I'm pretty sure we will get a big named corner back, pushing KJac to nickel.

But...... CB was not our biggest problem, KJac definitely wasn't. It's perception. I'm sure McNair wants to address perception.
I'm pretty sure we've all been through this before.

I realize our safety's were the weakest of the group, but Kjax was even benched, bro. All of our CB's kinda suck, but KJ was the worst of the bunch and was picked on by darn near every team we played.

Can he get better? Sure, but should we count on it? Nope

Let us bow our heads and pray Wade's system can help cover the fail in our secondary. Especially if we're unable to grab a decent FA.
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I'm pretty sure we've all been through this before.

I realize our safety's were the weakest of the group, but Kjax was even benched, bro. All of our CB's kinda suck, but KJ was the worst of the bunch and was picked on by darn near every team we played.

Can he get better? Sure, but should we count on it? Nope

Let us bow our heads and pray Wade's system can help cover the fail in our secondary. Especially if we're unable to grab a decent FA.
i dont think J. Allen sucks. He showed great coverage skills and a knack for the ball. Snagging 5 INT, 3 with us 2 with Miami.
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I believe this is the Texans biggest issue... they have ADD
They don't have ADD.

Oh look, a cheerleader and our defense gives up another TD.
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i dont think J. Allen sucks. He showed great coverage skills and a knack for the ball. Snagging 5 INT, 3 with us 2 with Miami.
Allen played decently for us last season, but he also gave up a lot of big plays (the 50 yard pass to Braylen Edwards where he played inside technique and let him go out of bounds with 10 seconds left on the clock comes to mind).

Plus this happens every season where we think we finally fixed something in the secondary only for them to regress the next season.

2011- ???
2010- Bernard Pollard
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Allen played decently for us last season, but he also gave up a lot of big plays (the 50 yard pass to Braylen Edwards where he played inside technique and let him go out of bounds with 10 seconds left on the clock comes to mind).

Plus this happens every season where we think we finally fixed something in the secondary only for them to regress the next season.

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A Lot of Big plays. The one you mentioned is pretty much the only one i remember. Whats the other ones ?
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i dont think J. Allen sucks. He showed great coverage skills and a knack for the ball. Snagging 5 INT, 3 with us 2 with Miami.
He takes too many risks and won't rely on coverage abilities. I think he'd be better suited as a FS. Kinda sad when we have a bunch of FS's playing CB and not one actually playing FS
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He takes too many risks and won't rely on coverage abilities. I think he'd be better suited as a FS. Kinda sad when we have a bunch of FS's playing CB and not one actually playing FS
I still didnt see all these big plays he gave up that every one is talking about. And if u watch all 3 videos at the top all 3 show excellent coverage skills.
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A Lot of Big plays. The one you mentioned is pretty much the only one i remember. Whats the other ones ?
I would have to go back and look at tape but they were definitely there.
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