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Old 02-10-2011   #21
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No. 11, Houston Texans

Jimmy Smith, CB, Colorado

McShay says: "Kareem Jackson should make big strides in his second season, and Glover Quin should improve in his third season. It would be nice to bring in a veteran cornerback to provide depth and stability, but if the Texans are unable to do so, Smith would be a good pick for them at No. 11. A big, smooth cornerback with the strength, confidence and balance to hold up in press-man coverage, Smith could emerge as one of the most underrated players from the 2011 class."



If the Texans are Unable to bring in a veteran ?!?!?!?!? If Kubiak and Smith leave us in the same position with the kiddie CBs as they did last season and bring in another kiddie CB i will have to say that they are possibly the worst Coach/GM Duo to ever run a team in the History of the NFL. Forget Drafting a CB, Resign Jason Allen, bring in a Big name CB as our Number 1, then J. Allen as our number 2. Quinn/Jackson play Nickle/Dime our Their DS on the Sidelines, they will be more help doing that than they were last season.
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Disagree on Okoye. I hated that pick from the jump. He was to young and he was a project player.
I think your take on this is right on. However, I think the point is that Okoye was the "consensus" pick. We argued about it here on the board, & I believe the majority, or at least a very close majority thought Okoye should have been the pick.


I remember that draft as the one Smithiak did what "everyone" expected them to do.

Even Cushing.... "everybody" thought we would take Matthews...... I wanted Rey-Rey.

Wilson was supposed to be our pick...... understandable by some if the Texans took McCourty. Jackson wasn't on anybody's radar.... except one guy here, maybe rmartin, maybe steelbtexans....

Brown??? who the heck was Brown, big surprise.

& of course Mario. Until the Texans said that Mario was an option, no one saw Mario as a viable #1 overall.

Whatever the Texans are going to do, it's going to surprise everyone. The only exception so far, has been Okoye....
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So we are gonna take a guy who played in the pass happy Big XII and was not even all that good?! Really?! Really?!
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Wilson was supposed to be our pick...... understandable by some if the Texans took McCourty. Jackson wasn't on anybody's radar.... except one guy here, maybe rmartin, maybe steelbtexans....
Nope, Jackson was not on my radar. Unfortunately, neither was McCourty. I missed the ball with him, he is looking pretty good while I wanted nothing to do with him before the draft.
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I dont see how we take Smith over Robert Quinn.

Guy could of garnered #1 pick consideration if he hadnt been suspended.

I would take him over a player who shoots up the draft board due to workouts and not game tape.
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I dont see how we take Smith over Robert Quinn.

Guy could of garnered #1 pick consideration if he hadnt been suspended.

I would take him over a player who shoots up the draft board due to workouts and not game tape.
Isn't Quinn more of a 4-3 DE?
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Isn't Quinn more of a 4-3 DE?
yea but im sure he could transfer to a 3-4 olb
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Hes an athletic guy that can easily make the switch. He would need to get better in coverage but im sure hed be a good olb
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Dont be. Its not as easy as some believe, there are many factors that come into play. How is the guy in space? How is he in the hips (flexibility)? How are his read and react skills? For example, a lot of people are talking up Kerrigan as a rush OLB. I dont see it, he is not that kind of athlete.
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Isn't Quinn more of a 4-3 DE?
He played 4-3 in college but has the athleticism to transfer to a 3-4.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNoYxbvKxXE

Quinn against Virginia

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Quinn against Anthony Castonzo who is regarded by some as a late first-second round pick.
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Nope, Jackson was not on my radar. Unfortunately, neither was McCourty. I missed the ball with him, he is looking pretty good while I wanted nothing to do with him before the draft.
I had Iupati in the 1st and Jackson in the 2nd. Iupati was already gone when it was the Texans time to pick.
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He played 4-3 in college but has the athleticism to transfer to a 3-4.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNoYxbvKxXE

Quinn against Virginia

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Quinn against Anthony Castonzo who is regarded by some as a late first-second round pick.
Most of Quinn's sacks were against Duke and other 2nd tier schools. After studying him closely. If the Texans go OLB in the 1st (I hope they dont) A.Smith or Houston would be my pick.
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Most of Quinn's sacks were against Duke and other 2nd tier schools. After studying him closely. If the Texans go OLB in the 1st (I hope they dont) A.Smith or Houston would be my pick.
I would welcome those choices although i think Quinn has more upside than both of them.
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I think your take on this is right on. However, I think the point is that Okoye was the "consensus" pick. We argued about it here on the board, & I believe the majority, or at least a very close majority thought Okoye should have been the pick.


I remember that draft as the one Smithiak did what "everyone" expected them to do.

Even Cushing.... "everybody" thought we would take Matthews...... I wanted Rey-Rey.

Wilson was supposed to be our pick...... understandable by some if the Texans took McCourty. Jackson wasn't on anybody's radar.... except one guy here, maybe rmartin, maybe steelbtexans....

Brown??? who the heck was Brown, big surprise.

& of course Mario. Until the Texans said that Mario was an option, no one saw Mario as a viable #1 overall.

Whatever the Texans are going to do, it's going to surprise everyone. The only exception so far, has been Okoye....
Smith has a chance to be the best CB in this draft. (Not that I want the Texans to take him) Holding up on a crappy team Colorada) in a pass happy confrence means the guy can obviously play. The question is how well does that transfer to the NFL?

Smith is kind of stiff in the hips. But he can run. I'm spooked off Smith if iI'm the Texans. Due to the Jackson fiasco. Jackson was a little stiff in the hips also.
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Nope, Jackson was not on my radar. Unfortunately, neither was McCourty. I missed the ball with him, he is looking pretty good while I wanted nothing to do with him before the draft.
Weren't you the one who predicted the Duane Brown pick, though?
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I would welcome those choices although i think Quinn has more upside than both of them.
If the Texans want an OLB in the 1st rd. They're in a great spot.

You could be right about Quinn. Time will tell.

Houston has the ability to become like Terrell Suggs. A.Smith has the ability to become Harrison like. Quinn has the ability to become like Haley.

There's less risk taking Houston/Smith than there is Quinn. IMHO
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If the Texans want an OLB in the 1st rd. They're in a great spot.

You could be right about Quinn. Time will tell.

Houston has the ability to become like Terrell Suggs. A.Smith has the ability to become Harrison like. Quinn has the ability to become like Haley.

There's less risk taking Houston/Smith than there is Quinn. IMHO
If we take any of those guys and they end up as your comparisons i would do cartwheels.
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If we take any of those guys and they end up as your comparisons i would do cartwheels.
Me too

They have the ability. It's about who will put the work in. That's what makes the draft such a crapshoot.

R.Smith gets paid alot of $$$$ to make these decisions and so far his track record is spotty at best to put it kindly. Espcially when it comes to picking defensive players. Which is the side of the ball he focuses his scouting on.

Kubiak focuses scouting the offensive side of the ball. I've read this somewhere but dont have a link.
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